New evidence on French COVID-19 patient suggests virus may not have started in China

[LiberalArkie]

There’s new evidence that the first case of coronavirus may not have started in China at all.

Doctors at a Paris hospital say they’ve found evidence that an ill patient admitted in December was already infected with COVID-19, with no known association or recent travel to China.

Speaking to The Latest on Wednesday, Associate Professor Sanjaya Senanayake, an infectious diseases expert at the Australian National University, said the patient had the illness a month before the first case was confirmed in Wuhan.

“In this particular case, scientists looked at people who (had tested) negative for flu, but they never had an answer for why they had an infection,” he said.

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https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/new-evidence-on-french-covid-19-patient-suggests-virus-may-not-have-started-in-china-c-1021446

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In 10,000 athletes participated in the event from 18 to 27 October, the first case was made official a few weeks later. The sword Olympian: "In many knockouts, I recovered after three weeks"

May 6 - 2:47 pm - MILAN
Ten thousand athletes, all together, in Wuhan. From 18 to 27 October 2019 the city that later became the outbreak of the pandemic had hosted the World Military Games. The first case was officially recognized by China on November 17, but now there are several testimonies from athletes who on those dates, or after returning home, were affected by cough, persistent fever, weakness. The Italian delegation was made up of about 200 people including athletes, technical staff and accompanying managers.

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Yesterday on the French Bfmtv website, a transalpine athlete who wanted to remain anonymous said he had fallen ill with the symptoms of coronavirus (fever, breathing difficulties). Today the team wrote about pentathletes Elodie Clouvel and Valentin Belaud ("We were in Wuhan, then we got sick, he missed three days of training, I had problems never before. And when we talked to a military doctor, he told us: I think you already had it because a large part of the delegation got sick &quot , but also in Italy there are blues present in that competition that either in China or on returning home have suffered from the now famous symptoms.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.gazzetta.it/Sport-Vari/06-05-2020/coronavirus-mondiali-militari-wuhan-ottobre-tagliariol-370755837301.shtml

[Mike 03]

1. K&R

I personally wish we'd go back here in the U.S. and re-examine deaths from October/November (especially on the West Coast) and, if we find COVID-19, work back from there.

[Laelth]

2. AFAIK, the first Chinese case dates from Nov. 2019

This is speculative nonsense, as it is currently presented. There may be something to it, but a December French case can not precede a November Chinese case.

-Laelth

[Coventina]

3. Agreed. The Chinese have experience in tracking these viruses.

If they believe it came from a Wuhan wet market, then I am inclined to agree.

I think the answer here is that it was being community spread much earlier than was previously thought.

[Ms. Toad]

5. Correct -

The intelligence reports of a new contagion date to November.

And the absence of travel to China by that specific person means absolutely nothing. As we know all too well, not everyone who gets COVID 19 traveled to China.

[bamagal62]

4. Remember, the other SARS virus of 2003,

actually, started in November, 2002. However, the alarm wasn’t sounded until March. Sound familiar?
Someone knew but didn’t say anything.

[LiberalArkie]

6. Probabl took a while before authorities figured it was the regular flu or the vapors disease.