Dr Fauci's "supposed" integrity

[maxrandb]

I have seriously run out of fucks to give about Dr Fauci and his "very tough job" he has to do.

He needs to fucking show up and answer questions from the people's House . Period! All Stop!

If you have "integrity", you do the right thing.

If you have "honor", you do the right thing.

Dr Fauci needs to show up at the House hearing as requested, despite what Donnie Shit for Brains directs or orders.

I'm fucking sick and tired of hearing about what a fucking fine line he has to walk.

People are fucking dying and being mamed for life. I give not one fuck about his fucking "fine line". The people's House...elected by the vast majority of Americans NEEDS TO HEAR from the guy who is supposedly the expert.

What does he fucking gain by not showing as requested?

A better question is what does he have to lose by failing to show?

How about losing a lifetime of respect and integrity.

Show up Dr Fauci.

[Squinch]

1. This. We do not have a king. Trump saying "no" does not mean Fauci can't

[Dawgman49]

2. Do No Harm

this is the basis of the oath they took as healers....it is time for them to stand up...any good that they are doing aligned with this psychopath is in the shadow of his malignant ego and re election at all costs of life...go to the house and testify....the only fine line you are walking is ...Do No Harm

[calimary]

40. Welcome to DU, Dawgman49.

TOTALLY agree!

First, Do No Harm, Dr. Fauci! Do you REALLY have to obey trump when he says you're not allowed to testify? Why can't you defy him and go speak your truth to the committee ANYWAY? And say what needs to be said ANYWAY? Are you a citizen of the Disconnected States of trump? Or the United States of America? What can he do to you except fire you? That might actually be a mark of integrity added to your resume, frankly.

Dr. Fauci, I'm rock-solid certain that you know what a spine is. And that you know where it's located. Which means you certainly know where YOURS is. USE IT, DAMMIT!!!

[SamKnause]

3. I'm in agreement with you.

All those who have kept silent and enabled Trump through this administration

have zero integrity or ethics.

If you don't speak up when children are caged, white supremacists are being encouraged,

and people are dying needlessly then you are part of the problem !!!!!!

[mnmoderatedem]

4. he's one of many who could/SHOULD speak up

Kelly. Tillerson. McMaster. Mattis. Just off the top of my head. Screw this loyalty crap. They all know how dangerous trump is. SPEAK UP BEFORE NOVEMBER!!!!

[Moostache]

5. Anyone NOT showing up and testifying should be considered co-conspirators.

If you are above board, you testify.
If you do so willingly, you may receive leniency.
If you do not, then you are assumed guilty of connivance and shall suffer the full weight of penalties for your crimes and covering up those of others.

Choose.

[Hokie]

6. I wish I could vote up your comment twice

I have never bought into the Fauci worship. His first responsibility is to save lives. The best way he could do that is tell the truth abut the guy who is fucking everything up.

[ecstatic]

7. Might as well, now that dangerous Donnie has tossed the reopening guidelines

Nothing left to lose at this point. trump has completely distanced himself from the pandemic and takes zero responsibility.

Any new task force events will be dominated by trump's newly installed lackeys.

Fauci needs to become an independent expert.

[PaulRevere08]

10. Exactly! How much worse could it be if tRump fired him. He's not being listened to anyway

so why not get in there and expose the truth. Of course, Fauci might not want to disclose his actions as well.

[uponit7771]

22. +1, Good point ... his reasoning for being there is not present any longer at all.

[PatSeg]

55. Yes

And as Trump says often, "What does he have to lose?" Fauci is 79 years old. He doesn't need this job and if Trump fires him, it won't be the end of his world. Meanwhile, it could free him up to say what needs to be said. Its not like Trump is taking his advice anyway.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. I think Trump wants him on his staff only to keep him quiet.

I agree. It's time for Fauci to throw his cards on the table and walk away from this Administration. Trump is already sliding into dangerous territory. You just can't have two diverse and contrary policies operating at the same time, without devastating results.

[Polly Hennessey]

9. I hope history will

give us an answer as to why these so-called persons of integrity stayed silent. Maybe it is as simple as a paycheck. All I want is to see the day tRump is brought down and humiliated.

[StarzGuy]

41. It's always about money

With RePukes, no matter who it hurts or screws. I think our country would be way better off with no RePukes in our government or society for that matter. I know that can't happen, at least not within my life time but I can dream about it can't I?

Given the opportunity I think RePukes would screw as many as possible and...with SpaceX now pushing for Mars, the filthy rich will buy a ticket for a ride out to Mars and set up a new society. Otherwise, why is Musk so intent on getting to Mars? Follow the money.

Now we have that nitwit actor getting ahead of everyone for shooting a movie in space on a ride with SpaceX. I take it a lot of money changed hands.

[milestogo]

11. Anyone who votes Republican has questionable integrity.

[PCIntern]

12. I posted early on that he was a problem

During the early time of the AIDS crisis.

GRID was Gay-Related Immune Disorder. The original name. What horseshit. Like the virus cared what you did in your spare time

[thesquanderer]

16. Since being gay is indeed not a "choice"(i.e. it is biologically determined) it is actually possible

...that some disease could actually be genetically linked to being gay. While that isn't the case with AIDS, it isn't impossible that some disease could be linked to one's sexuality. Sexuality isn't just about what you do in your spare time.

[PCIntern]

34. You entirely missed the point

A virus which infects in the manner in which this one does was obviously not caring of the sexuality of the individual. We knew as clinicians it was just a matter of time until it affected anyone who was appropriately exposed. And yes, sexuality is one attribute of ones personality but we knew that it was a matter of oppression of gays that these RWers promoted this notion. Itd be like saying that syphilis only affected sailors and those in the military. I practiced during this and no one can tell me what happened. I lived it and lost hundreds of my patients in an 18 month period. Lectures I don’t need, thank you.

[Progressive dog]

13. Fauci's silence is acquiescence to the Trump agenda.

The American people pay his salary, not that morally and ethically bankrupt psychopath.

[malaise]

14. There's a YouTube making the rounds with a female academic

with not one decent word about Fauci. I didn't post it because I don't know if it's a conspiracy theory but she tears into him.

[Silver1]

26. I saw a bit of that video.

and I'm planning to watch the whole thing later. But how does one know if it's a smear campaign or not? A lot of right wingers want to discredit Fauci right now. It would be good to know where the money behind that video comes from.

[malaise]

27. You tube took it down

It's BS

[jaxexpat]

39. Who knows? I get it.

It leads back to the question of whether Robert F. Kennedy is legit or not, tantalizes anti-vaxxer theory and generally mixes it up with the Big Pharma thugs. Confused about spread of Alzheimer's or 5G? ChildrensHealthDefense.org is your place. (Also the origin of the video.) You can even join if your a joiner.

Malaise, there's sometimes just too much stuff to keep up with. But Dr. Fauci needs to take a stand or get out of the drama.

[tenderfoot]

46. She's a trump humping loon

https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/skeptical-of-plandemic/

[CountAllVotes]

15. Every single one of us is walking a fine line right now

That line is life v. death!

DUMP tRUMP!

& recommend !!

[gab13by13]

17. Dr. Birx flipped months ago.

She is more concerned about showing off her scarfs.

Dr. Fauci started out strong but he caved. It is damn hard to speak truth to power, anyone who does, Trump makes sure his or her life is a living hell.

[DENVERPOPS]

36. To me,

Birx is fascinating. She used to be a fairly respected scientist.
Out of nowhere she was "Born-Again" and became a devout evangelical, and therefore a serious Trumphumper.
Some kind of crisis must have happened in her personal life that drove her over the edge????
And WTF is it with all those gaudy ugly designer scarf's she wears every day??????? Like I said, she has a very respectable Bio as a leading scientist, and then poof.........

Did you see her expression when she was sitting there listening to Trump's drivel about powerful lights shoved up inside of people and injections of cleaning solutions into people's bodies????? And she said absolutely nothing.
Any scientist, medical authority I know would have stood up and walked off the stage with utmost disgust....
And she said nothing and just stood there.......

[patphil]

18. I thought Fauci should have resigned already.

Staying with Trump just gives the president the illusion of credibility; something he is sadly lacking.

Fauci should resign and testify before the House.
It's the honorable thing to do.
Perhaps the Trump taint has already taken hold of Fauci, and he accepts his role as window dressing for the failed Trump covid19 response.

A sad end to a long, and otherwise brilliant, career.

[NRaleighLiberal]

19. agreed. far too much cowering to the joker just to keep a job.

we need courage and integrity, not simpering self preservation

[Grammy23]

20. This is another of the pieces to the whole tRump story

that perhaps will be explained in time. We see person after person remain silent AND loyal to tRump while we look on in horror. So why do these people who have reputations to protect stay with the tRump team? The $64,000 question. Will history tell us those details? Hope I live long enough to know what he had on them or how he threatened them.

[DENVERPOPS]

37. As someone once said:

they may be through with History, but History ain't though with them.......

[SCantiGOP]

21. I disagree with this thread

He can say the same thing in a Senate hearing that he can say in the House, where half the questions will come from Democrats.
If he were to go to the House he would be out of a job before the session began for disobeying a direct order from his boss. We need him where he is; trump knows Fauci is untouchable and that is why he is trying to push him into the background.
We should be damn glad he’s there.

[uponit7771]

24. "We need him where he is", for what? Red Don isn't listening to a damn thing he says anyway & the...

... world with disassemble if Fauci is fired.

Markets would fall flat and Fauci can scream ad nausea for a while.

[SCantiGOP]

29. He was on a network interview two days ago

He’s the only one there who can speak freely but he has to do it carefully without directly criticizing trump.
The easy thing for him to do would be to quit, hit the talk shows, get a huge book deal and be the hero.
I think he is there for all the right reasons. He is behaving the same way as a doctor fighting to save his patient - but his patient is the people of the US.

[uponit7771]

32. The CEO of the hospital group is overriding his desicisions, what difference is he making in health

... of the patient in this case US citizens?

The IHME model calls for 2 x the number of deaths if we have testing in place ... we don't

[SCantiGOP]

58. what difference does it make?

He is the only member of the government with TV time to tell the truth. He is the only (admittedly small scale) person that is pushing back against Trump.
Never mind, if you think it would somehow be a good idea to have him out of the way, you are entitled to your opinion.

[uponit7771]

23. K&R, Mueller level functionary; someone who has the ability & responsibility to scream loud & often

... via a myriad of mediums and chooses not to because of the way he'll look.

This is not good for him

[captain jack]

25. His job is to do his job. Not assist in getting thousands killed to save his job.

I'd say he should be fired, but it can only result in something much worse.

[HarlanPepper]

28. Wow

Your opinion of Dr Fauci matches my opinion of this OP and others like it.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

44. +1. n/t

[BlueJac]

30. Nice rant

I am all for it! Obstruction of Congress must stop!

[Evolve Dammit]

31. Yessiree. Show up and speak truth. That's all we ask.

[LymphocyteLover]

33. So true. Enough is enough. Someone big has to stand up to President Death.

[nolabear]

35. I disagree. We need him close to 45. If he's openly defiant he's gone.

I happen to know a couple of people who have known him for his whole career. They are also physicians. They think very highly of his work, integrity, steadiness and lack of bullshit. I think highly of them.

Fauci will be fired as soon as Spanky thinks he’s not useful or is a threat. Once he’s fired he can say what he wants I suppose but he’s cut off from the official actions on the virus, the response, the “backstage” goings-on and we lose his medical perspective.

I admit we could all be wrong but I don’t see any upside to his firing.

[StarzGuy]

38. Potty mouth aside...

...I agree. He needs to testify in our House too. Failing to do so calls into question his integrity in my opinion. The mealy mouth BS that donnie pukes aside. Seems to me Fauci thinks more about his job (donnie will fire him) than giving the best scientific advice available. What is it with this donnie guy? Why do so many on the administrative side of our government bow down to this POS?

If there is a God, I can only hope that this POS gets his walking papers in Novembers election. Given what is going on with humans currently I doubt any God exists. Not that I ever had or would.

How many more Americans are going to die for this experiment of opening up businesses? We shall see in about 3 weeks. I wonder what will happen then? What will donnie do? I'm betting nothing as is with what he is doing now. Great job donnie!

[calimary]

45. Maybe the only thing we realistically can do is Get Out The VOTE!

We're stuck with him til, minimum, 11:59am next January 20th.

[SEARCHERS]

42. Fauci and everyone else

If you disagree with this shit stain we have for a president, say so. He can't gag you if you don't want to be gagged. The Retrumplicans are taking this country into a place we can't get back from. We came from the 1860's, it sucked. The biggest gun we have is free speech and no one can stop it. Yell to the rooftops how crooked and perverse this administration is. Tell the House, Senate, and anyone else that will listen what you think Fauci. If you don't you are Trump too.

[calimary]

48. Welcome to DU, SEARCHERS.

YES! To EVERYTHING you said.

The more Fauci pulls his punches or demurs or couches his words or tiptoes around the Shitstain-in-Chief because he wants to avoid a tweet storm or he doesn't want to get fired - THE LESS HE BECOMES.

The less his reputation becomes.

The less his word becomes.

The less his authority becomes.

The less his credibility becomes (or what's left of it at this point).

You have a backbone, Dr. Fauci. You're an MD. You know what backbones are and where they are located in the human body. You undoubtedly know you have one of your very own. SO USE IT, DAMMIT!

[dlk]

43. Playing the sycophant to have it both ways...

[droidamus2]

47. I agree sort of

Yes, I agree that Dr. Fauci should testify, but he is in a catch 22 situation. If he goes against Fat Donnie then he will be able to testify the one time but then we all know he will get fired. If he is fired he loses all access to the vital information he is using to keep us informed. At that point he could give us theoretical answers to questions about Covid but he would be behind the times so the information would be of limited to no use. Do we want Dr. Fauci in place for the longhaul so we at list get some legitimate information coming out of White House. I see two other options that might work. Is there someway that the House can protect Dr. Fauci's job if he testifies. Remembering that Fat Donnie will try to ignore anything they do and still fire him? The other option I would like to see is for Dr. Fauci to stand up to the idiot and give out needed information no matter what Donnie says and maybe get the idiot to blowup or fire him on air at which point he is free to give his real opinion of the crappy job the Fat man is doing.

[Mr. Ected]

49. To allow Trump to politicize this pandemic is tantamount to manslaughter

Dr. Fauci has as much blood on his hands as Trump....though his hands are considerably larger than Orange Dubious'.

[Ferrets are Cool]

50. Agreed

[dreamland]

51. The man's life's work is about pandemics

He's afraid of losing his job. He doesn't realize that it could give the freedom to speak out publicly and be rehired through the next administration. ...unless he's also on the take for something (your guess is as good as mine).

[LiberalArkie]

52. They are government employees, public servants. By law they can have no political opinions.

They are not political appointees. He can quit his job, loose his pension etc and say "Trump is a bad man". I sure would not throw away everything I have worked for just to state the obvious.

[MadMike47]

53. If you feel that strongly, call his office. Here's the phone number: 301-496-2263

[cwydro]

54. Agree.

Rec.

[llmart]

56. +1000

I couldn't agree more.

I felt the same way about Birx, but she lost credibility with me long ago with her puppy dog, servile demeanor. I don't care what her credentials are if she just sits there with her mouth shut spouting what Trump wants her to say then she's useless.

[Hotler]

57. +1......and, this same rant should be spewing loudly from Nancy's mouth also.

I'm sick of playing nice.

[Blue Owl]

59. Leave the concern & hand wringing for Susan Collins

Speak out, Dr. F!

[live love laugh]

60. 💯💯

[jayfish]

61. He'll Wait Until He's Kicked To The Curb. The Response FromThe General Public?

Just another disgruntled former Trump employee.

[Atticus]

62. Amen! Amen! Amen! I have seen him as a gutless ass-kisser from his first appearance

at the Trump "Ain't I Great?" televised rallies. Yes, he has occasionally disagreed with Trump, but it was always "respectfully" even when what Trump said was idiotic.

Others have resigned from their positions in protest of Trump's criminal incompetence. Fauci's time to do so was weeks ago.

[Hestia]

63. Like the song says Freedom's Just Another Word for Nothing Left To Lose w/Death Threats

Have y'all forgotten his family is practically in hiding and he has to have security around him because of the yahoo's death threats against him? Does he have to bleed before everyone pays attention?

I don't think 45 can fire him, per se, because of the NIH structure (but who the hell knows anymore) and there have been several articles stating he is still on the Task Force but if my family is threatened, I wouldn't stand out there and be a front for the assholes who aren't listening anyway. He can go home at this point, pull his pension, and enjoy his family. After 30 years, I think he has given his pound of flesh for this country.