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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Fri May 8, 2020, 03:41 PM May 2020

My thoughts on CV: no raging forest fire right NOW, but some embers are smoldering faster

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In the early mornings, I take the official case counts for all 50 states (plus DC) and compare them to what each state reported the day before.

My concern level is when day-over-day cumulative positive case counts rise by 5% or more. Today only 6 states do that: MN IA NE KS, NC as chicken and pig processing plants are getting hit worse, and of all places ME as a Portland poultry processing plant reported a cluster.

However, the rate of percentage day-over-day increased in rising in several states. Seven this morning showed more than a 1% increase over the previous day's percentage (e,g, a state that had a 2% rise in cumulative cases Thursday over Wednesday now has a 3% rise in cumulative cases Friday over Thursdsy).

I hope this trend is just a reporting blip and not a harbinger of what's in store for next week.

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My thoughts on CV: no raging forest fire right NOW, but some embers are smoldering faster (Original Post) nitpicker May 2020 OP
K&R! SheltieLover May 2020 #1
How do you account for deliberate under-reporting by some GOP governors? Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #2
It's not just the governors nitpicker May 2020 #3
One thing to remember about fighting a fire whistler162 May 2020 #4
It is mapping, almost exactly, the pattern that the 1918 virus took. Blue_true May 2020 #5

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
3. It's not just the governors
Fri May 8, 2020, 05:41 PM
May 2020

There may be genuine confusion by some medical examiners, coroners, or others as to what to put as the primary causes of illness and death.

Let's say Joe Cancerguy picks up CV, he gets sick with pneumonia, gets taken to the hospital. Is he primarily sick from cancer, from pneumonia or from the CV they may not have tested for at first?

Then he worsens, and gets put on a ventilator. Then the kidneys start to fail, and he can't be saved. Is the primary cause of death listed as cancer? CV? Pneumonia? Or "organ failure"?

As people get sick in more locations than the original hot spots, the doctors and other authorities all change, so that in one city CV may get the primary blame while in another CV may be listed as a contributing factor but not THE factor in illness or death.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
4. One thing to remember about fighting a fire
Fri May 8, 2020, 05:43 PM
May 2020

after the main fire is out you need to go through the area/house and make sure there is nothing slowly kindling under the top layer.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. It is mapping, almost exactly, the pattern that the 1918 virus took.
Fri May 8, 2020, 09:25 PM
May 2020

The second wave was very deadly for many age groups.

What we know:

Covid19 currently kills elderly and people with illnesses or conditions like hypertension.

Covid19 currently kills a small number of people that are younger and have no apparent illnesses or issues like hypertension. Why is not understood.

Covid19 possibly causes a inflammation condition in some children.

A person that is seriously ill from covid19 but who recovers typically suffer damage to the liver and/or the heart.

There is no certainty that a person that survived covid19 won't contract the disease again.

The virus has spread to all the USA, the exception is American Somoa.

The 1918 virus didn't extract a big toll on younger people and children during the first wave, the second killed a lot of those classes, while still killing more of the elderly and sick. Also, some accounts recorded that the 1918 virus came back to kill some people that had recovered from it.

In covid19's case, people that suffered heart and liver damage would have illnesses that it can attack during a second wave.

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