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Channel 53 ABC Lansing Mi. Reporting AG Nessel and other lawmakers have gotten serious and verified (Original Post) gibraltar72 May 2020 OP
AG Nessel. Go ahead with the ban. roamer65 May 2020 #1
She had said the rules are set by some kind of board. And was going to meet with them gibraltar72 May 2020 #4
Good news. roamer65 May 2020 #6
Seems some people can't advance their point of view without firearms gratuitous May 2020 #2
But, they're "very good people." sop May 2020 #7
KR! Cha May 2020 #3
K&R Newest Reality May 2020 #5
here's an article from 2013 about open carry at the MI capital... Takket May 2020 #8
article about Nessel's statement and what happens next..... Takket May 2020 #9
Has anybody got a dime? crickets May 2020 #10
Been To Lots Of Protests Never Needed To Take My Weapons - Maybe That's Why The World Is So F-ed Up DanieRains May 2020 #11
more proof of why they should be banned Skittles May 2020 #12

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Seems some people can't advance their point of view without firearms
Fri May 8, 2020, 11:21 PM
May 2020

Sort of makes their arguments seem weak and impotent if they can't be carried without force or the threat of force.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
8. here's an article from 2013 about open carry at the MI capital...
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:09 AM
May 2020
https://www.mlive.com/politics/2013/10/bring_your_guns_leave_your_sig.html

interesting quote:

Michigan State Police who work at the building regularly enforce the sign rule, but there is no rule or law preventing gun owners from carrying their weapons into the Capitol.

"It's always been on the books -- even before the last constitutional convention -- the right to open carry in Michigan," said Sgt. Jeffrey Held of the Michigan State Police. "Nobody's ever changed it."

Takket

(21,568 posts)
9. article about Nessel's statement and what happens next.....
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:16 AM
May 2020
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/05/guns-can-be-banned-at-michigan-capitol-says-ag-dana-nessel.html

LANSING, MI -- Attorney General Dana Nessel said Friday a ban on guns at the Capitol could be enacted by the Michigan State Capitol Commission, which is slated to discuss firearms next week.

In a letter sent to the Michigan State Capitol Commission, Nessel said the commission would be within its rights to ban guns on the Capitol grounds for the protection of those both inside and outside of the building. She also issued a statement on her decision in a press release issued by her office.

“With exceptions to those tasked with protecting our Capitol, the only way to assure that a violent episode does not occur is to act in concert with the many other state legislatures around the nation that have banned firearms in their capital facilities," Nessel said.

"The employees at our Capitol and members of the public who visit are entitled to all the same protections as one would have at a courthouse and many other public venues. Public safety demands no less, and a lawmaker’s desire to speak freely without fear of violence requires action be taken.”

~snip~

it should be noted that the second amendment does not apply here, IMO. banning guns from the capital grounds does not stop anyone from "baring" them. you may still own your weapon, you just can't bring it in that building. and let's face it, if the need to violently overthrow the state government arises, the "no guns at the capital" rules doesn't stop you from doing so. Picture an armed revolt stopping at the door when they see a no guns sign and saying" well, dammit, i guess we can't do anything because the sign says i can't take my gun inside!"

crickets

(25,980 posts)
10. Has anybody got a dime?
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:14 AM
May 2020



On a serious note, I'm glad MI is taking action on this & hope they get the ban passed without anybody getting hurt.
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
11. Been To Lots Of Protests Never Needed To Take My Weapons - Maybe That's Why The World Is So F-ed Up
Sat May 9, 2020, 02:23 AM
May 2020

Never felt I needed 'em.

Dooooof.

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