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gibraltar72

(7,529 posts)
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:45 PM May 2020

One at a time. A ray of sunshine from Florida.

An old friend and classmate called from Florida to talk to my wife today. Mrs. Gibraltar has pretty much stayed away from politics with her. She says I love her too much to lose her friendship. Anyhow today she says I love your Governor I just sent her a note telling her that. This lady had been toting the line that the dirty New Yorkers had brought it to Florida when DeSantis sorta closed the northern border for show. Mrs Gibraltar sensing an opening said I hated the way Trump attacked Governor Whitmer. Friend replied that was last straw, Trump left us in harms way. I'll not vote for him again. She went on to say she didn't know who she would vote for but she knew who she wouldn't. We win the hard right crazies one at a time.

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Coventina

(27,289 posts)
1. Sorry to be a killjoy, but, saying she doesn't know who she WILL vote for makes her worthless.
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:46 PM
May 2020

If she's not voting for Biden, she's still the enemy.

Remember all those folks who "couldn't" vote for Hillary?
They gave us Trump.

gibraltar72

(7,529 posts)
4. A vote Trump doesn't get from someone like her is OK with me.
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:50 PM
May 2020

It's also OK that She's a champion of My Governor. With that opening Mrs. Gibraltar will have the chance to open her mind a little more.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. If the 'all those folks that couldn't vote for Hillary' could give us Trump ...
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:53 PM
May 2020

Then 'all those folks that can't vote for Trump' ... can give us Biden.

It's like ... transitive property or some such

Coventina

(27,289 posts)
8. It's possible. But I'm not going to count on it.
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:58 PM
May 2020

I'd be willing to bet paper money that if all the folks who voted third party here in AZ had voted for Hillary, we would have carried AZ for Clinton.

But, we had too many "never-Trumpers" who voted for that last minute guy Romney endorsed.

I'm just heartily sick of people complaining about Trump, but not committing to Biden. There is no other viable alternative.
I'll bet the majority of them end up holding their noses and voting for Trump anyway. Because the Dems are "socialists" and they don't want their taxes to go up. I've heard it over and over again.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. She wouldn't have won even with McMullen's (the guy you mean) AND Stein's AND all Write-ins ...
Sun May 17, 2020, 08:16 PM
May 2020

Those 3 would've put her pretty close though, and she'd only have needed about 10% of Gary Johnson's votes.

But as you alluded to, McMullen was the dude that the Mormons were told to vote for by the Church. Hillary was unlikely to get those votes, ever.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. That has been my hope, flippers, for awhile. trump manages to insult so many people
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:49 PM
May 2020

over time - makes for an awesome list.

elleng

(132,128 posts)
3. Right,
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:50 PM
May 2020

'we win the hard right crazies one at a time,' and foolish to call them worthless; we should appreciate when they recognize what's good/better.

Hermit-The-Prog

(34,056 posts)
7. Yes, getting them to vote FOR a Dem is a double bonus.
Sun May 17, 2020, 07:58 PM
May 2020

Just breaking out of the disinformation bubble is a wonderful start.

keithbvadu2

(37,522 posts)
12. "toting the line that the dirty New Yorkers had brought it to Florida"
Sun May 17, 2020, 08:53 PM
May 2020

"toting the line that the dirty New Yorkers had brought it to Florida"

Like one family that moved to Mar a Lago?

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