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gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:13 PM May 2020

So DU'ers do you believe that trump

is actually taking the hydroxyclhoroquinine (sp) or is he just bull shitting?


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So DU'ers do you believe that trump (Original Post) gopiscrap May 2020 OP
Believe it or not, I think he's dumb enough to actually take it, despite his doctor's ... SWBTATTReg May 2020 #1
He's lying. He's trying to save face while discrediting Dr. Bright. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #2
He lies even when telling the truth would make him look better. Laelth May 2020 #3
Question needs reworded. mobeau69 May 2020 #4
no fucking way Skittles May 2020 #5
who. fucking . cares ... dweller May 2020 #6
If he is, I wish him one of the side effects. Stinky The Clown May 2020 #7
you need the choice "wish he would, and chase it with chlorox" NRaleighLiberal May 2020 #8
Lysol vape for an after dinner smoke Celerity May 2020 #11
he's taking something... nt stillcool May 2020 #9
No, he's taking this stuff...... Elwood P Dowd May 2020 #10
I wish he was. I wish he was taking A LOT of it. Maru Kitteh May 2020 #12
It was a medicine show, he gave. wendyb-NC May 2020 #13

SWBTATTReg

(22,171 posts)
1. Believe it or not, I think he's dumb enough to actually take it, despite his doctor's ...
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:16 PM
May 2020

disapproval (if his doctor even knew about it to begin w/, which I doubt too)...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
2. He's lying. He's trying to save face while discrediting Dr. Bright.
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:17 PM
May 2020
Of course, Trump’s predilection for making false assertions is well documented. This announcement follows a predictable pattern for Trump of escalating a rhetorical point. Trump wants to disparage Bright, so he claims that hydroxychloroquine is safe and effective. To bolster that point, Trump points to unnamed doctors who he asserts have been prescribing the medication. Then, he escalates the point again: In fact, he himself is taking it, and he’s doing just fine. How can you argue with that? Trump is healthy and covid-free, so how can anyone suggest that the drug is dangerous or ineffective? Sure, the argument is of the anti-tiger-rock variety, but you work with what you’ve got.

In the moment, it’s an expedient example to cite, and, who knows, perhaps an honest one. But one effect of the claim is almost certain: Trump supporters will view the drug as a harmless way to potentially prevent a dangerous illness. Many, presumably, might then seek it out and take it — hopefully without negative side effects. The case of the couple in Arizona who took a fish-tank cleaning substance that was tangentially related to hydroxychloroquine may, in fact, have been a complicated murder plot. But if the president insists he’s taking a potentially lifesaving medication without any problems, why wouldn’t others try to do the same?

More broadly, this reinforces a central gap in Trump’s approach to the pandemic. While formally embracing the suggestions of medical experts, he has consistently undermined their advice, from pushing for a rapid scaleback of efforts to contain the virus to ignoring the need to wear a mask in public. This is another example of Trump knowing better than the “experts,” a message that resonated with many of his supporters in 2016 but which is far riskier in the present conditions.

In other words, the best-case scenario to Trump’s admission Monday is that he is, in fact, taking a risky medication with his doctor’s consent for which he’s not seeing repercussions and which his supporters will not see as a green light for seeking it out themselves. The worst-case? Trump claimed to be taking the medication to make a point, inadvertently triggering a new embrace of the medication among those who take his words at face value — putting lives at risk.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/18/trumps-stunning-claim-that-hes-taking-hydroxychloroquine-could-trigger-cascade-negative-effects/

The anti-tiger rock:

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. He lies even when telling the truth would make him look better.
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:18 PM
May 2020

Most likely, he’s lying again.

-Laelth

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