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Richard Engel's election night prognostication has aged well. (Original Post) roamer65 May 2020 OP
Wow. he nailed it OKNancy May 2020 #1
vomit... RT Atlanta May 2020 #2
amazing video, I remember that from seeing it live Celerity May 2020 #3
Nailed it malaise May 2020 #4
Yeah that one has stuck with me MissB May 2020 #5
Engel knows what he's talking about wryter2000 May 2020 #6
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! n/t MFGsunny May 2020 #7
As a skilled and talented foreign correspondent, Engel had the pulse of the rest of the world. sop May 2020 #8
As Moonvies said, it may not have been good for the country but it was good for the company. c-rational May 2020 #24
I don't remember this... I was so in shock that night renate May 2020 #9
Absolutely dead on except it wasn't 6 months to a year. It's been an incessant clusterfuck since catbyte May 2020 #10
Six months to a year of clusterfuck sounds good right about now, doesn't it? pnwest May 2020 #16
I knew it was going to be bad, but even I didn't think that thing would actually kill 100,000+ catbyte May 2020 #29
One didn't have to be a genius to predict that... Wounded Bear May 2020 #11
The saddest part of what he said RANDYWILDMAN May 2020 #13
I don't know what you are talking about. Tell me who was there & I'll tell you how they reacted to Hekate May 2020 #27
Understated, if anything. kairos12 May 2020 #12
Ur a mind reader. roamer65 May 2020 #14
Wow! futureliveshere May 2020 #15
I was watching results with a friend, gave up in despair around 10. Checked my phone around niyad May 2020 #17
A lot of people cried that night, me included. Beacool May 2020 #20
That was one of the most painful nights of my life. Beacool May 2020 #18
I cried the next day...all day. roamer65 May 2020 #19
Me too. Beacool May 2020 #22
It was a deep mental distress and foreboding that enveloped me. roamer65 May 2020 #26
Looks like Nicole was there as well. Engel was absolutely spot on.... Hekate May 2020 #21
Trump can't spell prognostication & I'd pay to see him take an IQ Test bucolic_frolic May 2020 #23
It was a challenge for me, so I know he couldn't do it. roamer65 May 2020 #25
K&R Very prescient indeed. He said what I am sure a lot of DU'ers were feeling that night. Myself c-rational May 2020 #28
Spooky as hell. BComplex May 2020 #30
Yeah it's spookily prescient. roamer65 May 2020 #31
And later that night DU was hacked so severely that it was down for the next 2 weeks. hedda_foil May 2020 #32
Good to Lifelong Protester May 2020 #33

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
2. vomit...
Thu May 21, 2020, 05:19 PM
May 2020

I get those election night knots in my stomach again because so many of us (all of us?!?) on here fucking knew this to be the case and it sure as hell looks like Engel is correct.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
5. Yeah that one has stuck with me
Thu May 21, 2020, 05:34 PM
May 2020

When I saw it on election night I figured he was exaggerating a bit.

sop

(10,162 posts)
8. As a skilled and talented foreign correspondent, Engel had the pulse of the rest of the world.
Thu May 21, 2020, 05:59 PM
May 2020

He was merely reporting what everyone else abroad already knew four years ago. What still shocks me most is how negligent our own domestic media was in their reporting about Trump when it mattered most. Coporate media wanted Trump to be competetive, no matter what the consequences. I don't buy for a second they were unaware of Trump's tendencies, it was just good for ratings.

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. I don't remember this... I was so in shock that night
Thu May 21, 2020, 06:40 PM
May 2020

Wow. It’s weird to see them, three and a half years ago, sitting around a desk talking about what that election could mean. Half of me is watching it as I must have watched it then, hoping that what he was predicting couldn’t possibly happen to the United States, and half of me is watching it now, wondering how they kept themselves from rending their garments and gnashing their teeth, because everything he said turned out to be absolutely true.

I just cannot believe the timeline we’re in and I can’t wait for normality to be restored, or at least to be able to watch the news and not have that “this cannot be real life” feeling all the time.

catbyte

(34,374 posts)
10. Absolutely dead on except it wasn't 6 months to a year. It's been an incessant clusterfuck since
Thu May 21, 2020, 06:42 PM
May 2020

January 20, 2017.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
16. Six months to a year of clusterfuck sounds good right about now, doesn't it?
Thu May 21, 2020, 07:22 PM
May 2020

I knew it would be bad, but I never imagined the onslaught of corruption and bad governance that we've endured. And that's just what's made it to the light of day. Can you imagine? Can you just imagine the corrupt shit that's going on that we DON'T know?

catbyte

(34,374 posts)
29. I knew it was going to be bad, but even I didn't think that thing would actually kill 100,000+
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:20 PM
May 2020

Americans, including possibly you and me. And people thought he was joking about shooting somebody on 5th Avenue and the cult would still love him. I underestimated his evil incompetence, the republican's complete abrogation of their oath to uphold the Constitution and to protect the citizens who elected them, and the cult's utter lack of humanity and basic human decency. This meme says it all for me:

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
11. One didn't have to be a genius to predict that...
Thu May 21, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

just paying attention. Mr Engel has his pulse on the international scene, has for a lot of years. His opinion is better informed than ours, maybe, but the only thing amazing about that prediction is that a talking head actually said it out loud on air.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,668 posts)
13. The saddest part of what he said
Thu May 21, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

is that nobody else at the table really heard him or cared.

The right wing owned "liberal" media could have stopped him. Even when Pelosi and crew had him dead to rights, the Media said oh divided country/senate oh he walks free.

94,000 and counting

Hekate

(90,646 posts)
27. I don't know what you are talking about. Tell me who was there & I'll tell you how they reacted to
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:11 PM
May 2020

...Trump's election. I couldn't see them all in this clip, but I did see Nicolle.

I will never, ever, forget Trump's Carnage in America speech when he became president-elect. Two of NBC's conservative commentators sat in the darkened hall afterward and talked about what a tragic day this was for our republic. Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt showed real depth that night -- of patriotism, heart, knowledge of our history, and knowledge of our Constitution. Steve choked back tears when he talked about the Constitution. They felt it as deeply as Richard Engel, and still do.

Not all journalists and commentators are the same, not by a long shot.



futureliveshere

(1,412 posts)
15. Wow!
Thu May 21, 2020, 07:13 PM
May 2020

I don’t remember this but this was remarkably prescient and reality Trumps even his imagination, but so close.

<see what I did there>

niyad

(113,274 posts)
17. I was watching results with a friend, gave up in despair around 10. Checked my phone around
Thu May 21, 2020, 07:49 PM
May 2020

2 am. Saw the words "president-elect trump" and cried. It was like stepping through Alice's Llooking glass into the underworld.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
20. A lot of people cried that night, me included.
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:00 PM
May 2020

A friend of mine called me the following day and told met that her oldest grandson, who was 7 at the time, was crying. I asked her why, she said that Jacob was worried that Trump would deport his best friend, who was Hispanic. Even young children were aware that Trump was a terrible person.


Beacool

(30,247 posts)
18. That was one of the most painful nights of my life.
Thu May 21, 2020, 07:57 PM
May 2020

I was devastated and unbelieving that Trump could have possibly won the election. I still feel like we went down the rabbit hole.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
22. Me too.
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:03 PM
May 2020

I've never been so disappointed in this country like I was that night. I couldn't believe that a POS like Trump was the new president. I don't find one redeemable quality in the miscreant.



roamer65

(36,745 posts)
26. It was a deep mental distress and foreboding that enveloped me.
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:10 PM
May 2020

I knew Engel was “dead on” correct from the night before.

Hekate

(90,646 posts)
21. Looks like Nicole was there as well. Engel was absolutely spot on....
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:00 PM
May 2020

75 years of work by this nation -- three quarters of a century -- all down the toilet.

c-rational

(2,590 posts)
28. K&R Very prescient indeed. He said what I am sure a lot of DU'ers were feeling that night. Myself
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:15 PM
May 2020

I told my wife it was a silent coup and felt punched in the stomach. To this day, MSM has to know what a complete abomination his administration is to our country and am incredulous that more are not speaking out. At times I feel that the powers at be know that the coming climate crisis will make this appear to be a spring day. November cannot get here fast enough,and yet I do believe the reThuglicans will get more dastardly each day between now and then. We need to fight fire with fire.

BComplex

(8,046 posts)
30. Spooky as hell.
Fri May 22, 2020, 12:21 AM
May 2020

He nailed the entire past 3.5 years.

But....I loves me some Richard Engel. He's awesome. He's fearless. He's not hard to look at, either!

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
33. Good to
Fri May 22, 2020, 03:23 AM
May 2020

Replay. That night I cried. And I have pictures of me after I voted for the first woman to be president.

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