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Solomon

(12,310 posts)
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:38 PM May 2020

Anybody else feel like the center is not holding?

That we are turning and turning in the widening gyre? The falcon cannot hear the falconer; things are falling apart; the center cannot hold...

I can't take much more. The "exonerations" of Flynn, Trump, etc..., the attempted demonization of Rice, Biden, Obama...

100,000 dead and growing that could have been and should have been avoided...

It's almost unbearable. I don't know how much more I can take. I really don't.

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Anybody else feel like the center is not holding? (Original Post) Solomon May 2020 OP
I know what you mean leftieNanner May 2020 #1
It is what putin and bannon want us to feel, but I feel it too...the real problem comes when Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #2
Bad times. Tipperary May 2020 #3
I am feeling it everyday... Moostache May 2020 #4
This country broke a long time ago Cosmocat May 2020 #5
ita Nikki28 May 2020 #6
Not exactly , but I'm extremely pissed lunasun May 2020 #7
I need to turn the tv off but I just can't. It's hard for me to sleep. I can't concentrate much. Solomon May 2020 #10
Yes. elleng May 2020 #8
Hang in there! I know ultimately we will win but ... jimlup May 2020 #9
Yup... dixiechiken1 May 2020 #11
White conservative privilege is out in the open. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #12
I think you speak for many of us. I know about the compulsion to try to keep up with the news, but alwaysinasnit May 2020 #13
I have to look away... stillcool May 2020 #14
Yes, from T S Eliot's poem The Second Coming MasonDreams May 2020 #15
I thought it was Yeats. Solomon May 2020 #16
Apologies, of course it's Yates. MasonDreams May 2020 #18
I bought leighbythesea2 May 2020 #17

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
1. I know what you mean
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:40 PM
May 2020

My fingers are worn down from clinging to the edge of the cliff.

I can't even conceive what I would do if Ass Face "wins" in November.

I'm glad we have our community here at DU to support each other.

Try to hang in there, Solomon.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. It is what putin and bannon want us to feel, but I feel it too...the real problem comes when
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:40 PM
May 2020

they prevent blue states from being bailed out and

ALL police and ALL fire-persons and ALL teachers are gone...violence will be everywhere

JUST what putin wants

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
5. This country broke a long time ago
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:49 PM
May 2020

Otherwise a complete sociopath would never have been nominated much less elected POTUS.

Nikki28

(557 posts)
6. ita
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:53 PM
May 2020

this is what I feel too. Many days I just shut off the news and read my bible to get my mind off this evil era.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
7. Not exactly , but I'm extremely pissed
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:56 PM
May 2020

Anger can be unraveling also so I don’t like this feeling I have either, but not the same as yours maybe.
I’m trying to not let it get to me but hard to do, isn’t it?
Yes it really sucks but we have to hang in there together
If a pendulum swings the other way for us, I hope the momentum from all this bad swings the other way to a multitude of good for us.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
10. I need to turn the tv off but I just can't. It's hard for me to sleep. I can't concentrate much.
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:14 PM
May 2020

I stay outraged. Not so much because of Trump. But because it feels like our system is not able to handle it. In the beginning we were consoling ourselves with the idea that our vaunted system of institutions, democracy and justice was going to prevail in the end. It feels like all of us are just watching a train wreck and nothing is going to done about it.

The only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope is that Yeats' poem must have been penned during a time that also seemed utterly hopeless. Yet somehow we came out of it.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
9. Hang in there! I know ultimately we will win but ...
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:14 PM
May 2020

the evil in our country is quite strong and will not fall willingly. Things may yet get worse before they get better.

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
13. I think you speak for many of us. I know about the compulsion to try to keep up with the news, but
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:27 PM
May 2020

since most of it is bad, we're left wondering "why do I do this to myself." I have to make sure I do something totally mindless every day in order to keep what few marbles I have left. And the fact that we have to isolate ourselves as much as possible is making things worse.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
14. I have to look away...
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:41 PM
May 2020

no cable news at all, and I'm trying to limit my time on the net, and force myself to do other things. Life is very effing weird, no matter how you look at it, but it's all in the way you look at it.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
15. Yes, from T S Eliot's poem The Second Coming
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:49 PM
May 2020

How can we talk about the centre not holding here? Here in the centre that is.

Reminds me of a Yogi Berra "When you come to a fork in the road, take it!"

Anybody still sitting on the fence? Repent!

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
16. I thought it was Yeats.
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:56 PM
May 2020

More:

"Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
17. I bought
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:58 PM
May 2020

Joan Didion Slouching Towards Bethlehem. Because I have been thinking of Yeats. And it reminded me i wanted to read it.
I'm wondering how the 60s felt. It was tumultuous. Dan Rather says there's been mant times that felt hopeless, but don't lose hope.
Also
My daughter is a poet and wrote a Yeats version November 2016.
Will try to find.

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