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Oh my good grief we are witnessing the death cult in action in real time (Original Post) Soph0571 May 2020 OP
So what DO you do if some a-hole intentionally coughs in your face? mitch96 May 2020 #1
I believe the coughing and spitting was assault. Atticus May 2020 #5
I think it Rebl2 May 2020 #52
I have plans for that worked out and practiced. gordianot May 2020 #6
I wonder if a spritz of bleach would work??? nt mitch96 May 2020 #19
Would be hard to argue with unique. gordianot May 2020 #26
a squirt of an appealing scent of li-li-li-li-liesall disinfectant sprinkleeninow May 2020 #51
I should think it could be viewed as terrorism, among other choices. Frustratedlady May 2020 #8
Isn't there a specific crime of bioterrorism? I seem to remember such being discussed some niyad May 2020 #28
I think you are right, but I can't remember the subject. Frustratedlady May 2020 #34
I seem to remember that it was about some people spitting and coughing deliberately in grocery and niyad May 2020 #37
Get video evidence malaise May 2020 #11
Look up "Defendu"! It is a chin crushing 1920's system. essme May 2020 #15
I've read about Fairbairn/Sykes in the past.. Good stuff. Legend training WW2 troops....nt mitch96 May 2020 #17
Get Tough was a good manual. Early in my 20's, I practiced with sticks, canes and staffs. cayugafalls May 2020 #44
I grabbed a copy of your self defence pdf dixiegrrrrl May 2020 #47
The part about acting instinctively is important. LiberalFighter May 2020 #53
Look around and ask someone if 2naSalit May 2020 #21
Easy vercetti2021 May 2020 #23
Mace, lots of Mace Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #24
I think this may be the best answer for people who attack by coughing and spitting. colorado_ufo May 2020 #40
Thank you. I thought about a tazer, but Mace seemed to be the better choice. Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #59
At the place I worked our chief of security was an ex NYC Police.. He said he defused 90% mitch96 May 2020 #62
"Get thee behind me, satan!" Then a shot of mace. sprinkleeninow May 2020 #50
Honestly, I'd probably overreact and punch their friggin lights out. CanonRay May 2020 #30
I genuinely wish someone would cough directly in my face... SKKY May 2020 #61
Has nothing to do with freedom. Just ignorant, nasty assed humans. Guilded Lilly May 2020 #2
Yup, pissed they can't get their way.... nt mitch96 May 2020 #63
When people cough like that or spit on others there should be criminal charges Thekaspervote May 2020 #3
In the UK Soph0571 May 2020 #4
these are trumps deplorables just living up to their name. /nt IcyPeas May 2020 #7
More like living down to it. niyad May 2020 #31
Selfish and ignorant. A lethal combination. progressoid May 2020 #9
and given permission to show all their ugliness, by trump dixiegrrrrl May 2020 #48
I'd probably wind up in jail Midnightwalk May 2020 #10
More of the "owning the libs" bullshit. sop May 2020 #12
Deliberately coughing on someone is an assault. dawg day May 2020 #13
Spitting on grocery store employee. keithbvadu2 May 2020 #14
Thanks. That made my day. oasis May 2020 #20
This will forever be THE most satisfying 2naSalit May 2020 #22
I must've watched that 50,000 times. Asshole didn't expect that! Bet he cried like a baby. dmr May 2020 #25
I could watch that all day! Solomon May 2020 #36
I carry a very large, very heavy shoulder bag. Would use it in a heartbeat to defend someone niyad May 2020 #32
Yup, scream "get your hands off my ass" as you pummel the shit out of em... nt mitch96 May 2020 #64
Thank you for that important addition! niyad May 2020 #65
That was AWESOME! colorado_ufo May 2020 #39
Spitting on a cop/ EMT is considered an assault, post AIDS realities. dixiegrrrrl May 2020 #58
If they got close to me, I might try to trip them, Ilsa May 2020 #16
If this is an example of "Deplorables", Hillary was too kind. nt oasis May 2020 #18
I became homeless a second time because I was accused of... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #27
No shirt, no shoes, no mask no service. safeinOhio May 2020 #45
Disgusting. liberalmuse May 2020 #29
when the corporate pac fredom works and the repukes figured out that covid hits people of color, the yaesu May 2020 #33
That's what finally convinced trump and the other republicans to reopen everything. BComplex May 2020 #67
This latest cover of The Week magazine says it all... chwaliszewski May 2020 #35
Stand your ground comes to mind. hadEnuf May 2020 #38
Yep. warmfeet May 2020 #41
Coughing on or spitting at is felony assault. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #42
Trump's actions encourage this kind of behavior Ohioboy May 2020 #43
I couldn't even watch it all the way through. Mickju May 2020 #46
It called "false entitlement". Caliman73 May 2020 #49
Elbow in the face captain queeg May 2020 #54
There are a lot of store employees in various segments PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #55
"Live and Let Die" nt oasis May 2020 #56
Kick oasis May 2020 #57
The worst part Tink41 May 2020 #60
THIS is what trump has done. THIS is what Fox "news" has done. And the so-called "evangelicals" BComplex May 2020 #66

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
1. So what DO you do if some a-hole intentionally coughs in your face?
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:34 PM
May 2020

A well placed heal palm under the chin would do, but it could be misconstrued as assault.
Recently a bus driver died of covid when a passenger intentionally coughed on him.. murder?
m

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
5. I believe the coughing and spitting was assault.
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:43 PM
May 2020

I'd have decked every one of these sonsabitches in self defense and then I would have called the cops.

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
52. I think it
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:31 PM
May 2020

is an assault as well. Something I don’t understand is don’t these cult trump people realize there are cameras everywhere these days and they may end up being arrested for assault. Even trump got caught with his mask on in a picture yesterday. Bet that made him mad.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. I should think it could be viewed as terrorism, among other choices.
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:48 PM
May 2020

It would certainly terrorize me! How could you be sure any coronavirus exposure was eradicated? Drink bleach?

What is wrong with people?

niyad

(113,284 posts)
28. Isn't there a specific crime of bioterrorism? I seem to remember such being discussed some
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:51 PM
May 2020

weeks ago.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
34. I think you are right, but I can't remember the subject.
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
May 2020

Maybe it was about Trump and bleach, in the event someone was dumb enough to inject it and died.

I thought there were some cases with AIDs that were intentional contamination. I seem to remember one of the first exposed who exposed others out of anger.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
37. I seem to remember that it was about some people spitting and coughing deliberately in grocery and
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:08 PM
May 2020

Convenience stores, before these covidiot protestors.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
11. Get video evidence
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:51 PM
May 2020

Take photos. Get the DNA - take them to court and take every penny he/she owns.
Organize pro bono lawyers to defend victims.

essme

(1,207 posts)
15. Look up "Defendu"! It is a chin crushing 1920's system.
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:56 PM
May 2020

Oh wait. Here it is:

https://www.amazon.com/Defendu-W-Fairbairn/dp/1581606028

It was create by a nutty (I say "nutty" but the truth is he was a tough dude) police officer who was sent to Shanghai and learned to fight or die (gangs would often challenge - Ie. karate- the UK cops to fight). It became the WW2 way of personal combat.

Edit" "Get Tough" has chin jabs and ear slaps.

https://marylandsystema.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Early_Military_Self_Defense_Techniques.pdf

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
44. Get Tough was a good manual. Early in my 20's, I practiced with sticks, canes and staffs.
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:04 PM
May 2020

They are very deadly and if you use a cane, people are quite unaware of the pain that can be inflicted.

Once, at a seaside bar in St. Petersburg Florida, some drunken dude much bigger than myself tried to take me out (I was hammered, stupid and in his way), granted he was drunk, but a simple straight knife hand to his throat took him down. It was only after the fact (sober) that I realized I could have caused some serious damage (death) if I had used my full sober strength. It really does not take that much force to crush the larynx and should only be used if the desired result is to end it permanently.

What this OP is talking about here is not something that, in my opinion, requires the use of Defendu or Jujitsu to handle, although it is kind of cathartic to discuss. If someone spits on me, or coughs on me, do I use a technique designed to kill as a response?

I realize I would be angry and most likely desirous of lashing out as defense.

To be clear, I am not a violent person, anymore. I do not advocate violence. Those days are long behind me, I am older and hopefully wiser. I prefer to try and talk it out and see if there is any shred of decency in the person. This new world where people are spitting and coughing on people has me quite concerned as I will be wearing a mask and goggles for quite some time here in a very red part of Houston.

I hope I can keep my cool if something like this happens. If all else fails, I still have my cane...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
47. I grabbed a copy of your self defence pdf
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:14 PM
May 2020


Not that I could ever use it, but it is a fascinating educational read....

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
21. Look around and ask someone if
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:19 PM
May 2020

they feel like calling 911 for the idiot who is now out cold on the ground and walk away.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
40. I think this may be the best answer for people who attack by coughing and spitting.
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:43 PM
May 2020

You don't want to get into a physical altercation that could injure you as well as infect you.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
59. Thank you. I thought about a tazer, but Mace seemed to be the better choice.
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:06 PM
May 2020

You don't have to let them get as close and no chance of permanent harm to them.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
62. At the place I worked our chief of security was an ex NYC Police.. He said he defused 90%
Sat May 23, 2020, 05:50 AM
May 2020

of all asshole situations with pepper spray... He said he keeps bear spray in the car and the little ones on his key chain.. When your eyes are stinging and you can't breath well all bets are off..
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CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
30. Honestly, I'd probably overreact and punch their friggin lights out.
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

I'd consider it an assault on me.

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
61. I genuinely wish someone would cough directly in my face...
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:12 PM
May 2020

...We would both end up in the paper.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
48. and given permission to show all their ugliness, by trump
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:17 PM
May 2020

It's gonna escalate into people getting really hurt.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
10. I'd probably wind up in jail
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:49 PM
May 2020

I feel so sorry for the people in those jobs who can’t afford to retaliate. Rudeness and stupidity is one thing, but I won’t take being spit or coughed on deliberately any more than if someone struck me.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
13. Deliberately coughing on someone is an assault.
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:52 PM
May 2020

Call the police. Post the pictures of these people (why so many white women? This is their version of mass shooting, I guess) on the doors of the store.
Identify them by name.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
25. I must've watched that 50,000 times. Asshole didn't expect that! Bet he cried like a baby.
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:38 PM
May 2020

He got hit hard, too. Hope he learned a lesson, though doubt it because now he'll claim to be a victim.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
32. I carry a very large, very heavy shoulder bag. Would use it in a heartbeat to defend someone
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:58 PM
May 2020

who can't fight back. (I was taught ages ago how to use it as a weapon!)

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
39. That was AWESOME!
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:41 PM
May 2020

Thank you, my hero! You did that for all of us who are trying so hard to protect others, our families, and ourselves. Hope you slapped some sense into that moronic dude!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
58. Spitting on a cop/ EMT is considered an assault, post AIDS realities.
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:47 PM
May 2020


Given the known infection rate of Covid, I would think one could press charges, if possible, using the same law.
We have to set boundaries before the problem gets too big, it will save lives.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
16. If they got close to me, I might try to trip them,
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:00 PM
May 2020

but generally, I'm not in to assaulting people unless they try to assault my family.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
27. I became homeless a second time because I was accused of...
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:47 PM
May 2020

"terrorist threats" after sarcastically threatening to spit on the floor and "kill the lot of them".

It was a heated argument, but even though no one seriously thought I would do it (or was even sick enough to make it work) rules is rules... I was pissed, and went one step too far.

Now, if I actually saw someone pull that sort of thing, I would be tempted to deck 'em. No idle threats there, but something as crude, rude, and dangerous as acid in the face. Man, woman, not a small child who doesn't know better yet, but maybe the parent...

Commit your own suicide if you must, but don't take anyone with you.

And if you have such "rights", why bother to wear clothes, drive on the right side of the road, and head for the bathroom when you have to take a sit?

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
45. No shirt, no shoes, no mask no service.
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:05 PM
May 2020

I’m sorry you must put on a mask...why because of a fake flu? No because you are so ugly you’ll scare all of our customers.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
29. Disgusting.
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

Seriously. Sewer sludge contains more kindness and dignity than these horrible pieces of humanity. No comparison.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
33. when the corporate pac fredom works and the repukes figured out that covid hits people of color, the
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:02 PM
May 2020

elderly the worst they decided to sacrifice them to the money Gods, wall street, and so we have this happening.

BComplex

(8,049 posts)
67. That's what finally convinced trump and the other republicans to reopen everything.
Sat May 23, 2020, 05:27 PM
May 2020

They wanted the old and dark skinned death rates.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
41. Yep.
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:51 PM
May 2020

Fucking A, Yep!

Someone try that shit on me. They are threatening my life. I have the right to defend myself, and I will.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
43. Trump's actions encourage this kind of behavior
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:03 PM
May 2020

He's the biggest baby in the land and all the other babies are following his example.

Mickju

(1,803 posts)
46. I couldn't even watch it all the way through.
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:13 PM
May 2020

It is so infuriating. It's tragic that we have so many people of such low character in this country.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
49. It called "false entitlement".
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:20 PM
May 2020

Not necessarily "freedom", more like power. These people (like most of us) feel powerless against the virus. We are afraid and uncertain. We have no one at the top of our social chain of authority providing leadership so some of us are reacting in a childish way.

This is the fault of the Trump administration. This tantrum is flowing straight from Trump to the people in our society who are mentally weaker and willing to follow him into tantrum and misbehavior.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
55. There are a lot of store employees in various segments
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:22 PM
May 2020

who have the mask tucked under their chin. WTF? The mask is not a magical device that protects you just by having it draped around your neck. It needs to be worn. It needs to cover both nose and mouth.

I am seeing a lot of incorrect wearing of masks in grocery stores, especially by the employees.

Tink41

(537 posts)
60. The worst part
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:09 PM
May 2020

The owners of this country are readily putting people making minimum wage on the frontlines to police these idiots. Remember that.

BComplex

(8,049 posts)
66. THIS is what trump has done. THIS is what Fox "news" has done. And the so-called "evangelicals"
Sat May 23, 2020, 05:17 PM
May 2020

support this.

These are truly evil people.

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