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writes3000

(4,734 posts)
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:15 PM May 2020

Trump Loses Support Among Religious Conservatives

“A sudden shift in support for President Trump among religious conservatives is triggering alarm bells inside his reelection campaign,” Politico reports.

“The anxiety over Trump’s standing with the Christian right surfaced after a pair of surveys by reputable outfits earlier this month found waning confidence in the administration’s coronavirus response among key religious groups, with a staggering decline in the president’s favorability among white evangelicals and white Catholics. Both are crucial constituencies that supported Trump by wide margins in 2016 and could sink his reelection prospects if their turnout shrinks this fall.”

“The polls paint a bleak picture for Trump… One GOP official said the dip in the president’s evangelical support also appeared in internal party polling.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/22/trump-loses-support-among-religious-conservatives/

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Trump Loses Support Among Religious Conservatives (Original Post) writes3000 May 2020 OP
Now we know why that thing is pandering to the church crowd so hard. catbyte May 2020 #1
But polling shows that church goers aren't that eager to get back to church. writes3000 May 2020 #2
I'm betting there will be a few die hard MAGAt churches that will jump at the chance. After all, catbyte May 2020 #6
PLUS leftieNanner May 2020 #7
The "prosperity gospel" pastors/collectors seem to do much better in the prosperity than the investo keithbvadu2 May 2020 #21
Matthew 6:24 - You cannot serve both God and money. BrightKnight May 2020 #32
Prosperity Religion is wicked bad. Greed is a sin, they promote the sin. nt 42bambi May 2020 #11
That is why the mainstream denominations consider it heresy. BrightKnight May 2020 #33
sure there will be some Skittles May 2020 #14
And their members may "Die Hard". SharonAnn May 2020 #29
It's the church goers' tithes that the the preachers are eager to restore. nt AnotherMother4Peace May 2020 #10
+ 1,000 -- Sunday bitches, you got my money? OMGWTF May 2020 #22
K&R UTUSN May 2020 #3
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas May 2020 #4
He's trying, but I don't think thosde reeligious groups will fall for his pandering. They & their l napi21 May 2020 #5
I guess... Mike Nelson May 2020 #8
Maybe they (the church goers) now are starting to realize that they've been used, again? What ... SWBTATTReg May 2020 #9
Why do many religious people support Trump? Blue_true May 2020 #15
Sadly, you're right. There are a lot of 'religious' groups that abuse the definition of what it... SWBTATTReg May 2020 #18
IDK. I think racism is largely at the core. If there are black mega churches do they love trump? captain queeg May 2020 #26
Because Trump is showing he's not really "pro-life" when he is forcing people to die in meat plants. OrlandoDem2 May 2020 #12
He only had to murder thousands of them nt Azathoth May 2020 #13
Thus the "reopen the churches" mandate. Laelth May 2020 #16
It wasn't just the Evangelicals who voted for him. Mariana May 2020 #17
It's a wonder that warmfeet May 2020 #19
Not my Christian Republican neighbors, unfortunately. I just don't know what it takes to get through C Moon May 2020 #20
The failing #RealDonaldTrump Blue Owl May 2020 #23
It's amazing how much people like the idea of staying alive and not dying. TeamPooka May 2020 #24
There s a god!! Thekaspervote May 2020 #25
Many churches have been doing online services, so no one is denying them. Lonestarblue May 2020 #27
Fuck them. Hulk May 2020 #28
I know 2 ministers at my church that can't stand him. Ilsa May 2020 #30
There is clearly nothing Christian about him. BrightKnight May 2020 #31

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
2. But polling shows that church goers aren't that eager to get back to church.
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:24 PM
May 2020

They aren’t going to fall for this bait.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
6. I'm betting there will be a few die hard MAGAt churches that will jump at the chance. After all,
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:36 PM
May 2020

Dear Leader is their true God.


leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
7. PLUS
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:43 PM
May 2020

That yacht's not payin' for itself! Nor the Lexus. Prosperity Gospel (for me) Shouts the Preacher!

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
21. The "prosperity gospel" pastors/collectors seem to do much better in the prosperity than the investo
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:53 PM
May 2020

The "prosperity gospel" pastors/collectors seem to do much better in the prosperity than the investors/donors.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
32. Matthew 6:24 - You cannot serve both God and money.
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:30 PM
May 2020

No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

I don’t know how you can read scripture and follow the GOP agenda.

I think there are a lot of Sunday cultural Christians that don’t bother to read, understand, and live it.



BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
33. That is why the mainstream denominations consider it heresy.
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:45 PM
May 2020

I know mainstream “Christians” that should know better but don’t. It is unfortunately not unusual to get a troubling Facebook share.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
14. sure there will be some
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:17 PM
May 2020

but the rest of them will resent being called out that they value their safety over their "faith"*

*conservative logic

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. He's trying, but I don't think thosde reeligious groups will fall for his pandering. They & their l
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:33 PM
May 2020

leaders will make a decision themselves on when they are safe & how to do so. I'm surprised enough of them are leaving him that it'sd making a diff. in the polls. I'm GLAD though. Sorry it took this long!

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
9. Maybe they (the church goers) now are starting to realize that they've been used, again? What ...
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:44 PM
May 2020

still gets me is how in the world do these people support a scumbag like trump? Didn't Jesus say that a rich person getting into Heaven would be like a camel having to climb through the eye of a needle or something like this to get in?

Hypocrites it seem like to me. These different groups (of all different and diverse beliefs) must realize in some manner that the constitution allows freedom of worship whereas across the world, in a lot of places, religion is given lip service and is dictated by the dictators or juntas of various countries.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Why do many religious people support Trump?
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:21 PM
May 2020

Because he speaks to their inherent need to control the lives of other people. He speaks to their hatreds. He makes them believe that any grotesque diversion from what Jesus supposedly taught is ok, they still have a ticket into heaven as long as they robustly profess faith.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
18. Sadly, you're right. There are a lot of 'religious' groups that abuse the definition of what it...
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:29 PM
May 2020

takes to be the 'real deal', be truly concerned w/ thy human being and open arms to all. They don't certainly seem like it when they shoot down others for their beliefs and they want us to honor their beliefs? Fortunately I'm not 100% turned against all of them, there are some really good groups out there that do really care, and truly do avoid politics, stick to the 'nitty gritty'. Control is the key word you used that got me. Good one word description of these folks.

captain queeg

(10,188 posts)
26. IDK. I think racism is largely at the core. If there are black mega churches do they love trump?
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:13 PM
May 2020

A lot of Hispanics are catholic, I wonder how they tend to think about him and reopening. But it seems to be the white “Christians” that think they can do anything as long as the claim Christ.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
16. Thus the "reopen the churches" mandate.
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:24 PM
May 2020

He’s pathetically predictable—pure reaction and no plan.

-Laelth

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
17. It wasn't just the Evangelicals who voted for him.
Fri May 22, 2020, 07:26 PM
May 2020

It is true that his support among the white Evangelicals was overwhelming, but he also got the majority of the Christians' votes overall in 2016 - 58% of Protestants, 52% of Catholics, and 61% of Mormons. He needs the majority of the Christians' votes to win. If he doesn't get them this time he has no chance at all.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
19. It's a wonder that
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:42 PM
May 2020

anyone ever supported this orange grifter.

His loss of support, not so much of a surprise.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
20. Not my Christian Republican neighbors, unfortunately. I just don't know what it takes to get through
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:42 PM
May 2020

to these people.
Nice older man, too.
A shame.

Lonestarblue

(9,984 posts)
27. Many churches have been doing online services, so no one is denying them.
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:18 PM
May 2020

Responsible ministers are keeping their churches closed. Irresponsible ones value the Sunday donations more than people’s health. Attending church is not an essential function. If you can’t pray at home, you’re not much of a Christian.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
28. Fuck them.
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:18 PM
May 2020

Its like listening to Bill Kristol or Schmidt, or some other dead repuKKKe from the 50's who lived too long....long enough to watch their fucked up nonsense ideology eat itself.

Couldn't care less. Don't want to hear their thoughts. Tbey are enablers that jumped ship ONLY when the water reached THEIR ankels.

Fuck them all.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
30. I know 2 ministers at my church that can't stand him.
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:43 PM
May 2020

It was 3, but one of them moved to NY.

Anyway, they do a lot of good in our community, especially feeding people, trying to raise the poor into better circumstances, helping the homeless, post-prison ministry, etc.

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