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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA white woman has been charged with assault after grabbing an 11-year-old black girl's arm and
accusing her of stealing mailA woman in South Carolina who accused an 11-year-old black girl of stealing her mail is now facing assault and battery charges over the incident.
The Aiken Department of Public Safety has charged Elizabeth Shirey, 38, with third-degree assault and battery over a May 11 incident in which officials say the woman grabbed 11-year-old Skhylur Davis.
Skhylur was picking up the mail at her grandmother's home in Aiken, South Carolina, on May 11 when she was approached by Shirey, who demanded the girl hand over the mail, according to an incident report seen by CNN.
Skhylur told the Department of Public Safety that she told Shirey that the mail was her grandmother's. She said Shirey then grabbed her arms and tried to take the mail before realizing it wasn't addressed to her.
https://news.yahoo.com/white-woman-charged-assault-grabbing-211802240.html
Sure her name wasn't Karen?
irisblue
(32,974 posts)PatSeg
(47,430 posts)You never grab someone else's child unless you are rescuing them from running into traffic or falling off a bridge.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)I think Shirey wants her country back.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)You may already know this, but Emmitt Till did not whistle at the white woman. A few years ago the woman who accused Till of whistling at her stated that she had lied.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)I was pointing out that his young life ended over something frivolous.
Just like Eric Garner.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)Investigated, tried and executed by the U.S. Army in 1945 on highly suspicious evidence in only 2 months.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)every country has it. We just happen to know our history better than we know other countries' histories..
yardwork
(61,608 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Instead of a melting pot, racists see "us vs. them".
erpowers
(9,350 posts)This is a crazy story. Why would Elizabeth Shirey think Skhylur Davis was stealing her mail when Skhylur was getting the mail from a house/mailbox that did not belong to Shirey? I realize the news article stated that Skhylur was near Shirey's mailbox, but that seems to show that the mailboxes were just near each other. Shirey should have just assumed that Skhylur was just getting mail for the home of the other box.
whopis01
(3,514 posts)The is the reason, and the only reason, why Elizabeth Shirey thought she was stealing something.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)I have missed out on the Karen stuff. What is that about? Heard a few references the last few days. I am out of touch.
leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)who is screaming at people about her freedom and mask wearing. I've seen references and she just looks toxic so I eschewed watching. I'm sure someone will post it for you though. DU is a magic machine!
jaxexpat
(6,828 posts)New York is where I'd rather stay, I get allergic smelling hay! Achoo!
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)It's a pejorative that nobody really knows the origin of, though 3 contenders are Karen Hill in Goodfellas from 1989, Karen in Mean Girls (Oh my god Karen, you can't ask someone why they're white) from 2003, and a Dane Cook set from 2004 "Every group has a Karen and she is always a bag of douche".
On edit: The male equivalent, though I don't know the reason, is Chad.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)is the sorta recent (last few years) generic term for self-entitled and ignorant white woman. Not fair to the Karens out there. Previouslt, "Susan", "Betsy" and others were used. Sorta like "Bubba" or "Bob" in the male world
tblue37
(65,357 posts)relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Traildogbob
(8,739 posts)Just damn. My first girl friend was a Karen. And sadly I am a Bob, damnit!!!!!! Actually could be a Jim Bob, James Robert. Just damn it all. Not Privileged, low middle class worked my whole life vet. DEMOCRAT. Tree hugging librul. Happy Memorial Day to me, Bob and all the good Karens out there. And damn the Chads, Donalds, Ivankas and Melania's.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Karen is the label for self entitled middle age white women who whine, bitch and moan when life doesn't go exactly the way they want it.
They routinely harass and insult everyone they think they have power over -- like children, minority children preferred, also store clerks.
They're easily identified by too much gold jewelry, knock off Gucci handbags and bortoxed within an inch of their lives.
Even before you see them, you can hear them: "I demand to see the manager!" "I'm calling the authorities!"
They give their gender, race and religions a bad name.
It's a nice name. Three of my very best friends are named Karen. I've never known a single Karen who was an entitled witch, and I've known a lot of them. Vilifying a large group of women with a very common name seems pretty classless to me.
tblue37
(65,357 posts)Nature Man
(869 posts)I defend groups of people who get painted with the same brush. Kinda why I'm a Democrat.
"Karen", "Becky", "Susan", mostly a sneering way to refer to female boomers. Also I hate "Boomer", "GenXer", whatever. It's much the same as lumping together groups of people by stupid concepts like skin color or sexuality, only this is age and gender.
I'm old, but I hate it just as much when people attack younger generations. It's not ever good to judge groups of people. We're all individuals.
Though it does occur to me now that I'm being super grumpy. One of my bff Karen's died a year ago yesterday, of cancer. I guess I'm still grieving. I'm still defending the name though.
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relayerbob
(6,544 posts)only to do it again the next day. There needs to be real consequences to this sort of stuff
Laffy Kat
(16,379 posts)We have got to make an example of these racists because they are, indeed, racists.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Would you feel it was still enough if the woman was an asymptomatic carrier of Covid 19 and the girl's grandmother ended up infected because of it.
Just to point out that at this time people need to be aware of their actions and take exceptional care not to touch someone else, especially without their permission, during a pandemic. Her rude behavior in 2019 now becomes a potentially threatening action in 2020.
niyad
(113,303 posts)SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)I am sure there are a lot of folks in jail who apologized.
I doubt this woman will get much punishment, but it is important to establish that this was an assault. We need to impress upon people that they can't just grab others, that grabbing people is a crime.
paleotn
(17,913 posts)particularly someone else's children. All she had to do was ask, not grab. A little nice southern charm goes a long way. Trust me. I grew up immersed in it.
bullshit. You don't put hands on a child.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Ever. If she felt bad enough to apologize then she should have never done it in the first place.
Its actually not hard at all not to assault children. Or anyone else for that matter.
When people who think its OK one minute to assault children suddenly realize THEY are in trouble its amazing how quickly they try to convince others that theyre innocent.
She assaulted a child.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(721 posts)that racist B*tch ASSAULTED a CHILD & was trying to do things that happens, (UNFORTUNATELY) in this COUNTRY, NOT just the South. (btw, my PATERNAL side comes from SOUTH CAROLINA...AND Emanuel A.M.E., (the Church tht the RACIST fucker, dylan roof attacked, MASSACRING people who had the COLOSSAL nerve & gall to be "PRAYING WHILE BLACK" , is my paternal family's Ancestral church. I can tell you histories of attempted attacks on my family, (both sides) that was recounted to me by grandparents, etc.
these types ONLY do these things if they feel they can do it under the dark of anonymity. She needs TO BE PROSECUTED because this $h!t needs to STOP!!
A question that I ask as I am TRULY interested why you think like this: Would you feel the same way IF this CHILD was YOUR kid, niece, nephew OR Grandchild?
GentryDixon
(2,950 posts)I cannot imagine what that poor child felt being assaulted by a grown woman.
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)No evidence. Nothing. And if the mailboxes were that close, didnt wouldnt she have known the grandmother? People are just crazy these days.
Saviolo
(3,282 posts)People are just c̶r̶a̶z̶y̶ racist these days.
Nature Man
(869 posts)they've always been racist. They just feel emboldened to act on it.
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bullshit. You don't put hands on a child.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Youre obviously trying to hang out with the wrong people.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)live love laugh
(13,109 posts)obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)Why were those poor good ole boys charged and put on trial for murdering Emmett Till? An act of momentary idiocy was turned into automatic racist horror and a capital crime. This incident should have ended with the plate of cookies and an apology.
Quit fucking excusing ASSAULT against ANYONE, especially racist-bias assault.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)to be charged with mail theft, since she took the mail from the girl without permission.
Joinfortmill
(14,420 posts)spudspud
(511 posts)Some people apparently don't consider them to be quite as human as white children. So this incident isn't that big of a deal to them.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)First she tries yanking her away by the arm, then luring her away with cookies.
"I thought she was stealing my mail!" is a rather convenient excuse to cover up a attempted kidnapping.