So MSNBC is doing to Biden what it did to Hillary

[TNNurse]

Endless reports about the comment Biden made (and has regretted and apologized for) without any comparison to Trump.

They are practically campaigning for Trump with it.

WTF?????

[mr_lebowski]

1. The cable news media sucks except for Rachel, Lawrence, and a handful of others ...

They're in no way 'on our side'.

[kimbutgar]

7. Joy is on our side also and she doesn't seem a bit irritated by what Biden said.

I rarely watch daytime msnbc because it can be fox lite.

[Celerity]

20. Lawrence is not a favourite of mine at times. He pulled some dodgy shit in the primaries.

Love Maddow though.

Hayes can now go fuck off after that stunt part two about that lying con Reade.

[Steelrolled]

69. I was with you until "except"

[2naSalit]

2. Same as NPR. ...nt

[rurallib]

19. boy oh boy oh boy does NPR ever suck

[Darwin2019]

31. yep NPR spent an hour focusing on Tara Reade

During the hour they glossed over all the Trump issues with women in about 10 seconds.

[Cha]

28. All I can say is... they must love living under the trump fascists.

So they can Fuck OFF.

[USALiberal]

35. So they should 100% ignore that it happened? nt

[Cha]

37. But Her Emails! We've Seen What Happens When they Go On & ON..

Symone Sanders Clues in Chuck Todd..

Link to tweet

[The Magistrate]

56. You Got It, Sir

That is exactly what they should do, because that would be coverage in direct proportion to its importance. Which is how things ought to be covered. Trump kills thousands by malfeasance --- that is important. Trump fires honest men investigating corruption by him and his cronies --- that is important. Trump endeavors to kill thousands more by interfering with public health measures--- that is impo0rtant. Democratic candidate says something on a radio show that is essentially true if perhaps poorly phrased --- not so much....


"Can't nobody here play this game?"

[USALiberal]

68. It was a story, like it or not. If some GOPer did it we would discuss it. nt

[The Magistrate]

72. And We Should, Sir: It Would Be An Expression Of Dyed In The Wool Racism From Any GOP Shit-Heel

Doubtless we would have many more pressing things to talk about, such as the items referenced above, but it would doubtless be possible to squeeze it in for a moment or two.

People talking about it is all that makes it a story, and if you have to talk about it, denounce the cheap jackals and hacks trying to blow it up out of all proportion into some 'balance' to weigh against treason and corruption and malfeasance amounting to criminal negligence.


"Can't nobody here play this game?"

[paleotn]

39. National Petroleum Radio.

[Me.]

3. THey Certainly Are

Between that and Tara Reade they are practically trying to hand the election over. I guess things haven't gotten bad enough for them yet or they don't care a flying fig that the country is in mortal danger.

[Hortensis]

4. The Republicans have been able to give them very little to work with

so far. Biden's so well known to Americans to NOT be a tool of corruption or sexual predator that CNN, MSNBC, NYT, AP, other MSM haven't been able to run with those fake scandals as much as they'd like.

This isn't a surprise, but not to worry that they can shift major opinion with this either.

The way to hurt these efforts is of course to refuse to tune in. At least refuse to watch the shows they design to subvert Democrats (some are far worse than others) and make sure they know. If enough people do, they'll not just lose standing and profits but ability to betray and influence.

[Green Line]

5. MSNBC is mostly awful

I watch, Nicole, Joy, Rachel and Lawrence, that's it.

[qazplm135]

6. it will last a couple of days and then be over

folks need to relax. He said something stupid, he apologized, he'll get a couple of days heat for it, and we all move on.

He's not perfect. He makes mistakes. This was one. He gets the paper on the nose, and hopefully gets a little lesson that does no lasting harm to him.

[Cha]

33. Please don't tell us "to relax".. no one that I know likes to be told

"to relax" in this fucking day and age.

Especially how MSNBC was with "But Her Emails".

Link to tweet

Symone Sanders lets chuckie todd know what's "stupid".

[PatSeg]

38. The comments are priceless

Dan Pfeiffer: "Coverage of Biden making a gaffe and apologizing is 100x coverage of Trump making a worse gaffe and not apologizing."

Paul Krugman: "Has anyone pointed out that Biden is capable of admitting error? That by itself puts him on a higher moral plane than you know who."

[Cha]

41. Thank you for that.. and my OP.. Charles Pierice pointing

out this..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13472782

[PatSeg]

44. Excellent

That definitely deserved its own thread!

[qazplm135]

46. fine

then freak the fuck out.

I'm not going to over little shit, but if it makes you feel better, it's all falling apart.

[Cha]

47. omg.. that's so nice of you to let us be who we are.

[qazplm135]

49. seems to be just you

but whomever wants to use up useless energy to get dramatic over a tiny thing, knock yourself out.

[Cha]

50. yeah yeah.. not just me.. you made your statement about "..folks need to relax.."

before I ever saw this thread.

I asked "..Please don't tell us to relax.." Thank you.

[Me.]

52. No, Not Just You

[Cha]

54. Mahalo, Me! Thank you for chiming in

with your support!

[Me.]

51. You've Obviously Missed THe Lessons From The Past

and only those who didn't ignore what was going on were the ones who saved lives. He is dismantling our country and destroying the very foundation of our government, but never mind. Just relax.

[Cha]

55. Thank You!

smh!

[qazplm135]

57. Lol

Yeah because saying relax about a tiny Biden thing is the same as saying relax about Trump's presidency. I wonder how some of you don't have daily heart attacks.

[Me.]

71. Aren't You Mr. Smart Guy

Got it all figured out have you?

[qazplm135]

73. I know enough

to not lose my mind because of a minor thing.

[Me.]

75. Her Emails Was A Minor Thing

How did that work out?

[qazplm135]

76. like I said

if you want to freak out, no one's stopping you.

It's the worst thing ever!! Omigerd Biden's done! All the AA people won't vote for him now!! The media hates him!!

There ya go, feel better?

[Me.]

77. It's Not A Matter Of Freaking Out But Taking The Opposition Seriously

But you go ahead, relax...others will see the job gets done

[qazplm135]

78. since when

are black media and members of the AA community "the opposition?"
Or MSNBC for that matter?

Biden made a tiny mistake, he's getting a tiny amount of heat, heat that will be over literally by Monday when all anyone will be talking about is 100000.

Now, if you want to continue to freak out because you think "The opposition" is going to have black people vote for Donald fucking Trump, I can't stop you.

But me? I've got better things to do with my time.

[Me.]

80. I Believe The Subject Is MSNBC

so don't try to distract

[qazplm135]

81. distract from what?

lol

MSNBC is the opposition now? LMAO.

[Me.]

82. Wow

can't answer for your lack of comprehension, a waste of time.

[qazplm135]

83. Yeah

I mean you said MSNBC crazy for me to think that's who you meant.

[Me.]

86. BLah, Blah, Blah

kind of hilarious that you obviously didn't read the OP starting with So MSNBC...

[qazplm135]

87. Kind of hilarious

when people view MSNBC as the enemy.

[R02091201]

61. I hear you, but this isn't the same. It is an ULTRA-NOTHINGBURGER. Let it sink.

[qazplm135]

62. noooo we have to freak out

or so I've been told in this thread lol

There will be good that comes out of this, Biden will lose complacency and he will pick a woman of color for his VP.

[Cha]

63. I KNOW.. but the US M$$M is trying to MAKE it a

Somethingburger.. and we're CALLING them OUT.

[R02091201]

64. Try to get Charlamagne tha God to go on TV saying he wasn't offended. Also message MSNBC.

I know Charlamagne did make a state but I don't think he did on TV. Do those things, but also realize this is what the corporate media does. It will blow over in a few days because it is SO minor.

[R02091201]

58. Agree on most but it was not "stupid." The point was crystal clear and it was a "loud" RADIO show.

Cavalier, wiseguyish, animated, jestful, and maybe even clunky and could have been better calibrated, but not "stupid."

Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't "You aren't Black if..." a common saying on that show and part of why he chose those words? (I read this on another post.)

He was just trying to say, in an animated jestful way on a RADIO show, that when compared to Trump the one who has fought for African Americans and the one who has done just the opposite is obvious, and it is.

But yes, media goofballs hoping for headlines and ratings and a horserace will get out of breath over this for a few days and then find something else to crow about.

It is such a NOTHINGBURGER!

[qazplm135]

90. It was stupid

Sorry, it was. But it's such a minor stupid that it's shelf life is about five more minutes. And the silver lining is he's that much more likely to pick a Black woman now.

[SlogginThroughIt]

88. So damned tire of people telling me to relax!

How about you do what you want to do and let others, feel and act the way they need to while our country is burning to the ground?!?!

[qazplm135]

89. If someone genetically saying relax

Leads you to lose your shit, then you probably need to relax.

[SlogginThroughIt]

91. Did I lose my shit?

Did I? Because I said I was so damned tired of something? Stop telling others how to act and feel. Or just stop trolling people. Which is actually what you are doing.

[qazplm135]

92. I did t tell you to do anything

If you don't want to relax then don't relax. I find it insane that generically saying relax about this one thing strikes up such an overwrought response.

[SlogginThroughIt]

97. Why do you care?

[qazplm135]

98. Why do you?

I don't. I made a general statement a couple of people acted like I was speaking directly to them, and I have said repeatedly if you want to get freaked out over nothing, be my guest.

It's interesting. I say relax and it's don't tell me what to do. But saying how this is a problem is no different, except that I took it for what it was, a fucking opinion.

Not some directive that somehow infringes on anyone. It's insane. But you guys are STILL talking about it.

[SlogginThroughIt]

99. oh so multiple people are reacting the same way?

Maybe get the clue then eh?

There have been several posters here telling people to just relax, chill, don’t worry about it....

Maybe people don’t feel like “relaxing” right now. And maybe some of us are sick of reading on our democratic activism site to just relax. In my opinion the last thing we should be doing is relaxing. We should be writing and calling our reps, talking to our friends, family, neighbors, and working our butts off as much as we can as the next election is only 5 months away.

But sure just go ahead and relax. Don’t worry we will pick up your slack. And before you claim that you aren’t just sitting on your hands, don’t assume that I was freaking out or “losing my shitL just because I said to not to tell people to relax.

[qazplm135]

100. There have been even more

Who have said oh my God we have to freak out over something.

You patrolling those threads and telling them to stop telling people what to do?

Or are you just treating them like opinions?

You going to write and call your reps about what Biden said on a radio show?! Lol

I said nothing about relaxing about the entire fucking election. I said it about a very tiny, very minor thing.

But, for the hundredth time, if you want to get all anxious over tiny things then have at it.

And for the record, no three or four people on a message board of thousands ain't something I get too spun up about either.

[SlogginThroughIt]

101. Now you are saying I am anxious...

Just keep telling people what they feeling or thinking.....

Is this all you do?

[qazplm135]

102. Ffs

Ridiculous.

[SlogginThroughIt]

103. Yes you are being ridiculous.

[qazplm135]

104. Ya got me

"No you are" is always unbeatable.

[SlogginThroughIt]

105. So you went through all of this... For what?

All because I said that I (not you, not anyone else) was tired of being told to relax... And you in your super chilled out relaxed state decided to enter this back and forth about my feelings. I mean that is really fucking weird if you ask me.

[qazplm135]

106. A double no you are

That's rare!

I'm mighty relaxed. Bemused for sure.

Wondering how long you are going to keep this going at this point.

Should be interesting. What's next?

[Me.]

94. +1

[Iliyah]

8. Doesn't fly with the Black community . . .

That and neither does the TR story, since they know that shithole is the worst.

What majority of sane Americans are concerned about is health, jobs and the COVID-19, knowing that 100,000 have lost their lives.

[Stuart G]

11. I agree with Iliyah.. not only ..the Black community...but most of us.

Simply put, the con man has come to the door 22 times to sell the tonic. Nothing a TV station says about some other person matters. Everyone in the U.S.A. has seen the con man come to the door 22 times

...This last sell, "It will be gone in a few days." is his last sell. It is all over for the con man.

Nothing can dismiss the above comment......Yes absolutely nothing can dismiss, "It will be gone in a few days.."!

[live love laugh]

9. No surprise. I'm not sure when all will realize who owns the media. MSNBC is not our "friend".

They just collect ad dollars for viewership but when the rubber meets the road their loyalties are to their owners.

[Brainfodder]

10. They need turmoil or no one will watch?

We stopped with MSNBC too, too much one thing all hosts covering, hour after hour.

When maybe 10 mins total would be fine, but remember, News is a buffet, and you get to cherry pick what you eat?

[Polly Hennessey]

12. I don't know what he said

and I don’t care. The same with the stinky Reade story. Keep falling for it folks. Who watches weekend daytime MSNBC. After Ali and Joy all would be better off watching a cooking show or reruns of Father Knows Best.

[Stuart G]

14. Now, Now and Now..."Father Knows Best'? oh no...try instead...reruns of "The Office"

...Reruns of ..."The Office" is it.. ....Who knows, "Father Knows Best"? most don't know..

................."THE OFFICE"...............now that is one most know..........................


I had better add this............Yes, I do know about.........Father Knows Best and .."I Love Lucy" too.

[oasis]

93. "I think I disagree", as in

Always, no, sometimes think it's me
But you know I know when it's in a dream
I think, er, no, I mean, er yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree

_____ "Strawberry Fields Forever".

[Peacetrain]

13. They are going to miss Trump when he loses because they have a full story line every day

that is my thought

[elleng]

16. which he's said, numerous times,

he's 'good' for business.

[Dem4Life1102]

15. They are running the story every hour

Biden needs to change the narrative as soon as possible.

[Demsrule86]

27. He is fine...no one cares about this shit with 100,000 murdered by Trump and the economy in ruins.

[Me.]

53. I Saw THat

turned over 3 times to see what they were discussing and each time...Joshua Johnson, Alicia Menendez and Chris Jansing were all talking about it above a huge red chyron that spelled it out.

[qazplm135]

74. guess what story they will be running every hour on Monday

hint, it rhymes with 100,000.

[stillcool]

17. Just like the "Dean Scream"..

the "swiftboaters", "Reverend Wright", and Hillary...Hillary had it coming from every which way. There is nothing more important in the news world than bashing a Democrat, and it's contagious. Amplified and continuous...all day, every day, how could it not be?

[UTUSN]

18. He said nothing wrong, same as: How can *any* minority support or be a Repuke?!

It's one of *my* Eternal Questions any time I see a woman-Black-Hispanic-Gay person being a Repuke.

[Demsrule86]

25. I agree with what Biden said...if you are a minority and support Trump, even scummier than other

Trump supporters...he loves the Klan and Nazis.

[Captain Zero]

29. The only minorities supporting Republicans

For the most part are an ownership/management contingent of some charter schools.

[PatSeg]

32. Yeah

I'm getting tired of politicians apologizing for telling the truth. It is getting really old. Hillary did it far too often, which ended up making her sound inauthentic. Biden should not fall into that trap. It only ends up working against them.

[uponit7771]

60. His form was wrong but not off from what a crap ton of blacks I know are thinking and I'm black.

[UTUSN]

65. "form wrong" - exactly.

[Aviation Pro]

21. The media wants a fucking horserace

Not this year, you motherfuckers.

Not this year.

[McKim]

22. NYTimes Doing the Same

Yes, this is a concerted effort by the NYTimes. Today we saw the third opinion column where some snooty “expert” was “giving advice” to the Biden campaign. This time it was the TV critic who noticed that the Biden campaign made some slight techno errors. The writer sounded so important and superior.

So did Axelrod and Pouffle a couple of weeks ago. Instead of going directly to the campaign with their criticism they splashed it all over the “paper of record” for the whole country. Of course they were only doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. I wrote the Times a blistering letter and I hope their nasty TV critic reads it. Evidently they prefer, mass death, chaos, widespread poverty and fascism to democratic rule. As the nation stares at this abyss, they are not doing us a favor, folks!

[dsc]

66. I read his snark filled article

and here's the thing. I watched the online tribute to Stephen Sondheim for his 90th birthday. I don't know who was in charge of it but I am going to go out on a limb and assume they had some knowledge of how to put on a show given that they were honoring one of the most prolific and famous Broadway producers of all time. It was delayed an entire hour for technical difficulties.

[True Blue American]

23. All day!

[Demsrule86]

24. Trying anyway...done with MSNBC. They suck.

[Hortensis]

70. Yup. In 2015 few of us realized how determinedly they worked

to subvert understanding and elect Republicans. Not me, but we've made progress.

I still watch Rachel. She's limited in what she can cover also, but she's too popular, i.e., powerful, to force to actually push their anti-Democrat themes. Also, evening audiences are more sophisticated.

Daytime and weekend shows tend to be the worst. Hosts and pundits are cheap and eager to break into the "big times," or clinging to fading careers, and there are always people willing to sell their souls to have their own shows.

[NotHardly]

26. Depends on the show... MSNBC, as usual, playing 'both sides' like lackies

[PatSeg]

30. I turned the TV on for about 30 seconds

and that is what they were talking about. Seriously? I turned it back off. I don't want to relive 2016. I swear these people will make a story out of anything.

[grandpamike1]

36. I will repost this here

Corey Richardson
@vexedinthecity
Level 1:
Dear White People; Gonna need y'all to sit this one out. Black folks who have been black for long enough can identify the difference between an awkward ally and a virulent racist. We good.

[MustLoveBeagles]

96. This says it all

[paleotn]

40. Thousands of Americans dying because Donnie F'd up...

and they're talking about this?

[MustLoveBeagles]

95. INR?

What a waste of time.

[Puppyjive]

42. Drug Dealers

They are drug dealers. They make millions off of prescription drug commercials. Notice how they never, ever talk about Americans addiction to prescription drugs, yet collect big paychecks. They should be held somewhat responsible for addiction and high prescription drug prices. I'm tired of listening to the same stories all the time. We need to move forward and quit the blame game. We know Trump fucked up, and we know he is not a doctor and should not follow his advice. I have been tuning MSNBC out. I watch public television.

[BittyJenkins]

43. I think the sick thing is

they are trying to be fair and balanced...like Fox news. It is horrible.
What would be fair and balanced would be to always bring up Don's gaffs and women along side Joe.
It is disgusting and then some.

[SayItLoud]

45. Inundate Rachel with tweets. Let her know. She will straighten them out. NT.

[TNNurse]

48. Please, I am not on Twitter, but those who are, PLEASE.

[R02091201]

59. Chill. They'll waste breath on this for a few days and then find something else to crow about.

[tirebiter]

67. Yeah, only one news cycle, really

Perty much like Carville said on MSNBC.

[jcmaine72]

79. Are you surprised?

I'm not.

Wherever there's a pile of shit, expect to see flies feeding on it.

[lame54]

84. They are offended on the behalf of others

[Maru Kitteh]

85. I don't watch their crap anymore. Chris Hayes was the last nail in the coffin.

So much pearl clutching over Biden, and little/no analysis over who is pushing this agenda. Screw them.