Those murderous cops in Minnesota

[malaise]

They held a public execution - in full view of the public. That is called a lynching.

Fuck this racism.

[secondwind]

1. How true............ and how sad.

[dalton99a]

2. Proudly, nonchalantly, calmly - in full view of witnesses and cameras

[Brainfodder]

3. Are you kneedling these poor helpless cops?

I am....



How'd I do?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

4. Cold-blooded murder.

[roamer65]

5. I want the one who killed George Floyd in prison for life, no parole.

Put him in the general population.

[warmfeet]

25. Yep.

The others aren't any better, though. They didn't lift a finger or raise a single objection. Lock them all up and weld the locks shut.

Justice applied unequally is no justice at all. Cop or no cop, you murder someone, you should be going to prison.

[spanone]

6. Why were they not arrested?

[Bettie]

16. Because they are cops

that's why.

Just wait...there will be a string of "why this guy deserved what he got..." news stories to make it seem legitimate.

[Wellstone ruled]

7. We will see more Videos

as the shop owners in that area give copies to concerned Citizens.

[safeinOhio]

12. I'd like to ALL of the

body camera videos the cops have. I have a feeling they would have been released already if they told a different story.

[Wellstone ruled]

13. This area is littered with

security Cameras.

[Cattledog]

8. Trump told cops in 2017 not to worry about injuring suspects

when they get arrested.

[malaise]

9. And this bunch are part of his cult

[aggiesal]

30. DU member StarFishSaver posted this ...

When white cops"take a knee" ...

[Mike 03]

10. It was brazen, cold blooded murder, with impunity

filmed from four, five different angles.

These trials belong in the Federal courts, where prosecutors that aren't friends with the cops can make every effort and give an honest prosecution, not a half-assed prosecution. We need to start putting these psychopaths with badges behind bars. It's not enough to dock them pay or put them behind a desk or even, in this case, fire them. Not enough.

EDIT: The people who saw that murder, who tried to beg the cops to stop, are going to be traumatized for life too.

[safeinOhio]

15. Federal law covers crimes of any

Government LEO, local, state or federal, that deprives a US citizen of their Civil Rights. It is called “Under Color of Law” crimes. FBI has the power to investigate.

[Mike 03]

21. Great. I heard this morning the FBI was investigating.

That video left me so disgusted it's been difficult to compose my thoughts.

[sop]

17. This brief storefront video shows Floyd in handcuffs before being killed minutes later:

The video shows one officer leading the handcuffed man onto the sidewalk, sitting him down, then the video ends. The short clip clearly shows an already-handcuffed Floyd walking peacefully next to the cop, taking orders and sitting down on the sidewalk without resisting.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/26/george-floyd-man-dies-after-being-arrested-by-minneapolis-police-fbi-called-to-investigate/

[sop]

11. If things play out as they always do, these four cops will walk, even the one who killed Floyd.

NYPD officer Daniel Pantaleo, the cop who murdered Eric Garner on video while he repeatedly cried "I can't breathe," was not indicted by the local grand jury, and the DOJ later refused to file any federal charges. It took NYC five years to finally fire Pantaleo. At least these four were immediately fired, but their police union will probably try to get them reinstated.

[Tipperary]

14. Well, the murdering cop in Charleston went to jail if I remember.

Forgotten his name, which is a good thing.

[sop]

22. In that case the bystander's video showed the victim running away, the officer shooting him in the

back as he was running away, at least 50 feet from the cop. The cop then walked up to the body and planted evidence. In this case, like the Garner case, the cops will probably claim the suspected resisted, they were just trying to restrain him and they didn't mean to kill him.

[Tipperary]

23. We will see. Lots of video in this case.

That cop murdered him.

[safeinOhio]

18. The family has a great

Civil case and those funds will come out tax payer dollars and will play a big part in future elections. Police chiefs, Sheriffs and mayor will be held responsible for their actions.

[sop]

24. The civil case will cost the city millions. Eric Garner's family received $5.9M in an out-of-court

settlement. Police officers and police unions should be obligated to carry liability insurance to cover these settlements, not taxpayers.

[safeinOhio]

27. Mayors and Sheriff know they have to

Answer to the voters. Most monitor police dept for that reason. When ever you have a complaint, always take it to them. This has worked for me in the past. Even had a cop call and apologize to me. Turned out he had other complaints on top of mine and the chief also told me because of them he was no longer eligible for a promotion. Must have got his attention.

[spudspud]

32. Until they start sourcing part of the settlement funds from the guilty cop's pension...

these things will continue as always. Most of these murderers get paid time off after the killings, media coverage dies down, then back on the force. Even if they get let go, they go across town and get another police officer job. And most of the trials are a farce at state level. Even if the family wins a civil suit, the tax payers are the only ones who pay the price for the evil behavior of these jack booted thugs. Laws need to change to hit them in their own pockets. Watch how fast they think twice about killing people when that retirement fund's in jeopardy.

[dalton99a]

55. +1. Make them suffer, not homeowners and taxpayers

[world wide wally]

19. All cop murder trials should be tried in Federal Court

[Johnny2X2X]

20. And they are still free men

Anyone else and they get taken to jail and held. But these 4 are free to talk between each other to get their story straight.

[sab390]

26. Minnesota Nice is a joke to anyone not from here

Everyone has a smile on their face but a knife behind their back. The schools don't teach children of color, there have been generations lost. They keep screaming for more cops but the night shift is bare. They sit around all day eating doughnuts. There are more Lieutenants than the graduation class at the Academy. But they all think it's because of someone else.

[aggiesal]

28. csziggy supplied me with a link that the Washington Post acquired ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/26/minneapolis-police-man-died-video/

I'm curious what prompted the take down.
George Floyd was already in handcuffs based on this video when he was
escorted by 2 officers across the street.
That appears to be the location of the take down, and this video doesn't show that.
But it does show that he didn't resist arrest in the video.
What happened in the area where video can't see, I don't know what happened.

[DENVERPOPS]

45. You know what is the strangest thing?

Years ago when I was in business and reported a possible counterfeit bill, the local police NEVER responded. Within 15-20 minutes a Secret Service Agent walked through the front door.....Counterfeit U.S. Currency and Postage Stamps is purely a SS matter.....

[aggiesal]

47. Was it currency or writing bad checks? ...

Does writing bad checks fall under Secret Service?

Also, if it was currency, did George Floyd know he was passing on counterfeit currency?

If I have a counterfeit $100 bill at the bank, they test it, and if it is counterfeit, the keep the bill
I'm out $100 dollars and if I remember I tell them where I got it.

This only happened to me at an ATM. I was putting $600 into my account.
The ATM said I only have $500, so I requested my money back. It only gave me $500.
So I reported the error to the bank, and they started an investigation and deposited my
$500.
I was told later, that one of my $100 bills was flagged as counterfeit.
Didn't know the ATM's could determine counterfeit, or the bank lied to me and
didn't want to give up my $100.

[progree]

48. I heard and read Floyd spent a counterfeit $20 bill, and I'm trying to find out if that's true

or not, given that pre-Covid I used to do a lot of cash spending and I never checked out my $20's or any other denominations because I wouldn't know what to look for.

see https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13493204

[DENVERPOPS]

52. Some of the counterfeits are pretty good

but the thing that is hard to duplicate is the paper. That is why good counterfeiters bleach one dollar bills and print twenties.
A good bank teller can feel the difference when counting out a stack of bills without even looking at the bills.
The Secret Service confiscates the counterfeit bill, so if a merchant doesn't want the loss, they know their bank may catch it when they try to deposit it, so they send out one of their employees to spend it. Or the owner goes out drinking that night in a dark crowded bar and spends it on booze........

I thought I would photo copy a Topographical Map on my computer printer......it wouldn't print most of it which was green.
My son told me that they do that intentionally so that kids can't photo copy the legitimate bills green color.......

The history channel or one of those programs had an hour long program on the U.S. Secret Service and counterfeit US money......
Fascinating. Basically, it showed why the larger bills get revised so often. The counterfiters master copying the new bills so quickly, the U.S. Gov't has to keep changing to stay ahead of the bad guys......

The best place to spend counterfeit is overseas since they don't know what a real U.S. bill looks like.......

[progree]

53. Very interesting. Thanks 😂 n/t

[marble falls]

29. Coooold blooded murder.

[lunatica]

31. They need to be labeled public enemies and thrown in prison

They will be ex cops to all the inmates. All of them.

[Cryptoad]

33. Thsi crap lies at the feet of those,,,,,

who hire racist thugs to be coppers!

[lunasun]

34. This guy who sold $100000 of Cops for Trump T-shirt's for a trump rally will help them out

Lt. Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, said that the union intends to provide full support to the officers Good Luck

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/10/10/bob-kroll-head-of-minneapolis-police-union-speaks-at-trump-rally/

[progree]

36. Was the "forgery" "passing" a $20 bill, which could happen to any of us that uses cash (or

used cash before Covid19).

I heard something on Minnesota Public Radio a mention of that in passing (the $20 bill story), but I can't tell you whether it was a journalist, a guest on a show, I just wasn't that situationally aware.

I did a quick Google of "George Floyd forgery dollar bill" and got these two from news stations that I'm not familiar with (the first is a channel 3 station in California, the other is a news talk station in Wilmar, MN)

https://kesq.com/news/national-world/2020/05/26/ex-cop-video-of-george-floyd-feels-like-a-monstrous-rerun/

On Monday evening, police in Minneapolis were called about someone trying to pass a counterfeit bill at Cup Foods, a neighborhood grocery store

https://www.willmarradio.com/news/four-minneapolis-officers-fired-in-death-of-black-man/article_670e9258-a004-11ea-b9e6-bb7c3673c990.html

The incident happened while police were arresting George Floyd on suspicion he was trying to pass a fake 20 dollar bill at a convenience store on Memorial Day

(I think it was the 26th, not Memorial Day which was the 25th).

Anyway, again, if this is the "forgery", I've got to emphasize again that I get lots of $20's from ATMs and never look at them since I wouldn't know what to look for unless it was Monopoly money or something, and just spend them.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone's heard anything definite.

As an aside, I've been to the Conga Latin Bistro where he worked as a security guard (some story said he worked there 5 years), and the news had an interview with the owner of the Conga talking about how he was very good at his job, knew how to talk to people, always doing things for others, etc. Never saw him, I was generally there in the early happy hour or even before where it was empty except for me and my friend (it's more of a dinner and night club place, not a happy hour place).

[malaise]

37. Yes, I heard he passed a forged note

but no one deserves to die for that. What about people who stiff contractors and workers aka the Con himself?

[progree]

38. A counterfeit $20 bill is not a forged note, it's a $20 bill that looks very very very much like a

real one. Which just about anyone and everyone would probably innocently spend.

If it was deliberate, no, of course it's not something that justifies an extrajudicial killing.

I'm yammering away on the point because it could happen to anybody.

[malaise]

39. Valid point

I am always careful with US cash even when I get it from my bank

[progree]

40. How would you know if it was bad? What do you check for?

Some places check $20 and higher bills by holding them up to a special light, or using a special marker or something on it (McDonalds).

99% of people, I don't think, would know what to look for and/or bring along some special equipment to help.

[malaise]

41. There's a machine and a marker

and I check with a good friend who owns a business.

[progree]

42. Good for you. Sounds like a lot of work. Cash is supposed to be convenient, not something one

goes to a friend's business to check out. Anyway, I think you are in a tiny minority of people who look at their cash.

[malaise]

43. I don't buy US dollars that often and her business is less than 200 yards from me

Still it is supposed to be convenient but I won't be swept up for bad money.

That said no one is supposed to be lynched for bad money.

[progree]

46. "no one is supposed to be lynched for bad money." Agreed, I never indicated in any way, shape, or

form that I thought he should be punished in any way.

Rather, the precise exact opposite -- if what he did was spend a $20 bill that turned out to be counterfeit, what I keep saying over and over (sorry) is that it could have happened to me and the vast majority of people who don't have the special equipment and expertise to check out the cash they get before they spend it.

And again, I'm glad that you check out your money -- the more people who do that, obviously the sooner these things are taken out of circulation. And of course wisely keeping yourself from innocently getting into trouble.

Anyway, I posted my response initially with the hope that maybe somebody who has heard definitely one way or another if the "forgery" was spending a $20 bill. I don't think his reputation should be besmirched by this "forgery" label if all he did was spend a $20 bill that he very probably didn't know was bad.

We can't undo his execution, but at least maybe the media would stop saying forgery forgery forgery.

Anyway, thanks much for the discussion

[malaise]

49. Thank you too

[csziggy]

50. You can buy counterfeit detection pens easily

Here is how to use one:

[progree]

51. Thanks much. I'll take a look. n/t

[yardwork]

44. This has upset me so much.

[Blue Owl]

54. I am livid... LIVID

Malaise, as a resident of the Twin Cities, this one hits close to home (as did the Philando Castile shooting a few years ago).

When I first saw the video of George Floyd being stepped on, STEPPED ON by this scumbag of a "public safety officer," my eyes started watering out of sadness. But then those tears turned to rage at this asshole, literally choking the life out of Mr. Floyd, with his hands in his pockets like it was no big deal.

I wanna see this cop thrown in jail for life (he'd be getting off lightly IMO). This kind of behavior, which has been emboldened by Donald Fucking Trump and his KKKlan of mouth-breathing white assholes, just makes everything feel wrong in the world.

I have faith that someday racism will end, but why the hell is it taking so long and how many more must die???