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Armed black protesters in MI (Original Post) Johnny2X2X May 2020 OP
It's about damn time superpatriotman May 2020 #1
Good, glad to see it SCantiGOP May 2020 #2
They already have a strategy Johnny2X2X May 2020 #6
This has been done a number of times. Igel May 2020 #11
It Had To Come, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #3
+1. It is necessary. dalton99a May 2020 #7
THAT took guts! I agree that guns are not the way, but the point is definitely being made. Squinch May 2020 #4
They have every right to use every legal means necessary for self-protection and deterrence. dalton99a May 2020 #5
History lesson: SCantiGOP May 2020 #8
+1. The Mulford Act dalton99a May 2020 #10
And, they're Wearing MASKS! Cha May 2020 #9
I was wrong Jake Stern May 2020 #12
It's ok. Didn't tRUMP say there's good people on both sides? abqtommy May 2020 #13
I can't help but notice the lack sarisataka May 2020 #14
Yeah, dware May 2020 #15

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
2. Good, glad to see it
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:13 PM
May 2020

Let's see the assholes start working on a strategy of how to make it illegal for black folks to carry guns, while keeping it an absolute necessity for the good white folks to have as many guns as they can acquire.

Johnny2X2X

(19,062 posts)
6. They already have a strategy
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:17 PM
May 2020

They just convict young black men of felonies at an insanely higher rate than the rest of society and convicted felons aren't allowed to carry guns.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
11. This has been done a number of times.
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:12 PM
May 2020

Every time the prediction is made that the blacks sporting the rifles will be gunned down.

Every time the prediction is wrong.

Six months later, the prediction is back, but reframed as "if blacks were to carry guns, you know how it would go--they'd be gunned down". The response is usually that they *did* carry guns and were *not* gunned down, but nobody wants to hear something other than, "Yup, you're absolutely right--you rock!"

The problem is that contrary evidence just isn't retained.

It's like the tenured faculty member who referred to the knee-on-neck, and said that this *never* happened with white men and, in fact, it couldn't happen with white men. I took that as a challenge. Took 20 seconds to get the search terms to get the millions of copies of the George Floyd picture out of the Google results, but there they were--white men, aged 18-60, either photographed with uniformed-cop knee on the back of their neck and their jaws were ground into the pavement or mug shots with face damage with the news article saying that the facial damage was caused by the intersectionality of the guy's face with pavement resulting from patella-oppression of his neck.

The evidence showing that the respected, widely published faculty member wasn't in the least right wasn't hard to find. But why would anybody interested in showing they're right be interested in evidence that contradicted them? (Which is why we hammer in science classes that the goal of an experiment is to prove the researcher wrong--any untrained idjit is motivated to show that they're right, it takes somebody motivated to seek truth to be interested in disconfirming their own view.)

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
4. THAT took guts! I agree that guns are not the way, but the point is definitely being made.
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:16 PM
May 2020

(Though I would like to see a little more universal mask wearing.)

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
8. History lesson:
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:23 PM
May 2020

Why did Governor Reagan advocate for and sign a total ban on people carrying loaded guns in public when he was Gov of CA?
Because the Black Panthers were showing up at protests carrying enough guns to definitely qualify as a "well-armed militia," and promising to use them rather than be murdered by the police.
If black and brown people started showing up in public with as many guns as the white racist assholes, maybe middle America will rethink this open carry anytime anywhere nonsense.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
12. I was wrong
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:16 PM
May 2020

Honestly thought the response would be diffeeent but they were allowed to carry on their protest peacefully

sarisataka

(18,636 posts)
14. I can't help but notice the lack
Thu May 28, 2020, 08:53 PM
May 2020

of calls for police to disarm them and open fire if they refuse or demands the Governor use the National Guard against them...

I will say the same as I said before- I oppose carrying or displaying guns at a protest. However since it is not illegal where they are they should be allowed to do so as long as they adhere to the law.

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