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In 2016, many didn't vote or voted third party so we could burn it all down. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman May 2020 OP
Right. No black person was ever murdered by cops before 2016. Autumn May 2020 #1
Trump threw the gasoline on it. It could have been avoided. Runningdawg May 2020 #2
lol Drunken Irishman May 2020 #8
Laugh all you want. It's a fact. Cops were murdering blacks before the 2016 election. Autumn May 2020 #32
lmao Drunken Irishman May 2020 #34
ROTFLMBAO Autumn May 2020 #35
heh Drunken Irishman May 2020 #36
Oh. It's okay. I'm done. Autumn May 2020 #37
Cool. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #38
Inaccurate defense of what shouldn't be defended, surely? Hortensis May 2020 #29
It's not a defense. Just a very accurate observation . YMOV Autumn May 2020 #30
"I just wanted someone to 'shake things up' ". Aristus May 2020 #3
Been there... Heartstrings May 2020 #6
OMG, right? Beartracks May 2020 #7
Lived through 1968 (and one earthquake). lagomorph777 May 2020 #12
That mentality forgets the marginalized are the first rogue emissary May 2020 #4
Yes. I have a feelng Susan Sarandon is safe in her mansion, as we speak. Hekate May 2020 #42
Would it have been better if they'd gone out and voted for Trump? nt. Mariana May 2020 #5
The end game is the exact same. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #10
Only you don't seem to be bothered about the Trump voters. Mariana May 2020 #11
Yes. Absolutely. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #16
They would have made the difference in the electoral college votes. Budi May 2020 #20
This is just limp whataboutism BannonsLiver May 2020 #28
NO. They should have voted for Hillary Clinton Caliman73 May 2020 #45
Sarandon must be so excited. She said "things will really explode!" Budi May 2020 #9
Give it up. Rehashing past campaigns is against the TOS here in case you've forgotten. nt Doremus May 2020 #13
Excuse me? Elections have consequences, & America is living thru the mother of all consequences Hekate May 2020 #17
It is rehashing. First of all there's no reason for it, especially now. Doremus May 2020 #18
Ahh, I see. You heard the name that was not said. I heard "Jill Stein" Hekate May 2020 #25
It is all rather pointless, isn't it? demmiblue May 2020 #33
There is no forgetting how we got to this point. Budi May 2020 #21
Then alert my fucking post. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #19
Delete your own post. Or defend it. Whichever. Doremus May 2020 #40
The only garbage here are those who had a hand in electing a racist like Trump. Drunken Irishman May 2020 #41
That moronic phrase hits me the same way, then and now Hekate May 2020 #14
I will forever be angry at these people. I will forever blame them what we all have to experience. LizBeth May 2020 #15
I am right there with you. 🍃 Budi May 2020 #27
They have not a single argument, just self absorbed. LizBeth May 2020 #39
Do you think that people who didn't vote or who voted 3rd party are here at DU? milestogo May 2020 #22
Yes, some of them really are. But many an OP addresses people (such as Trump) who are not at DU Hekate May 2020 #43
Yep, that's where ideological purity and intractable beliefs get us BannonsLiver May 2020 #23
Well to be fair, it has all been burnt down. HotTeaBag May 2020 #24
That sentiment goes back a ways Mosby May 2020 #26
There's a certain mindset, isn't there? I'm done pleading for their votes. nt Hekate May 2020 #44
Yup. ismnotwasm May 2020 #31

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
32. Laugh all you want. It's a fact. Cops were murdering blacks before the 2016 election.
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:36 PM
May 2020
But yeah you gotta do what you gotta do.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Inaccurate defense of what shouldn't be defended, surely?
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:24 PM
May 2020

The OP speaks to the responsibility of those who failed to stand against what the Republicans promised -- and have delivered. Absolutely including protecting murder-by-police. You're damned right it was happening before!

Many with good intentions made that dreadful mistake because they were taken in by the massive deceptions blanketing our nation. But now with November 3 coming up, they once again have an absolute duty to understand the situation so they can join the rest of America in rescuing our nation.

Aristus

(66,487 posts)
3. "I just wanted someone to 'shake things up' ".
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:36 PM
May 2020

One of the many idiocies burbled by these people.

Anyone who has ever lived through an earthquake knows what an awful thing it is to have things "shaken up"......

Beartracks

(12,822 posts)
7. OMG, right?
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:41 PM
May 2020

If pressed, most of them probably didn't *really* think anything would change, so it was "safe" to vote for an obvious imbecile with delusions of grandeur while professing the lazy political "analysis" that things would be shaken up.

Be careful what you vote for...

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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Lived through 1968 (and one earthquake).
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:50 PM
May 2020

Shaking things up is not how you build a better world. It's how you destroy what you have.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
11. Only you don't seem to be bothered about the Trump voters.
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:47 PM
May 2020

You seem to be much more angry at people who didn't vote for Trump.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
16. Yes. Absolutely.
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:54 PM
May 2020

I am bothered by people who claim to be left but decided it was fine and dandy to vote knowing that vote was going to help elect a racist like Trump.

Trump voters don't pretend to care.

These third party or non-voting libs pretend to be allies but had no problem sitting by as we pleaded for their support because they wanted to blow it all up.

Again, I say thanks.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
20. They would have made the difference in the electoral college votes.
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:08 PM
May 2020

We won by 3 million votes.
Just 3 states led up to the results we live with today.

We all saw what direction the messaging took.
There's no excusing it & no longer any argument supporting it.

We live with the whipped up ire of a few that led the way. That is written in history forever.

2016 is past. Our democracy is a thread away from collapse.

2020 will decide what direction it takes from there on.

There's no pie-in-the-sky, at best we are wise enough to bring in a team that sees a way out & knows the path to peace.

Sarandon should sit this one out.
This horror show brought down on the American citizens didn't have to happen at all.

#💙2020


BannonsLiver

(16,539 posts)
28. This is just limp whataboutism
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:21 PM
May 2020

We knew we could count on the Trump voters to do the wrong thing. That was ALWAYS going to happen. It’s those who theoretically were aligned with the Dems who stayed home cuz purity and sour grapes that the poster is talking about.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
45. NO. They should have voted for Hillary Clinton
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:33 PM
May 2020

That was kind of obvious from the original post.


When you have a moderate or center left government, you can push it toward the left. When you have a psychotic asshole, you are just bailing water to survive.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. Sarandon must be so excited. She said "things will really explode!"
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:45 PM
May 2020

Wonder which multi-million dollar mansion she's viewing the results of her rantings at today!

You fking happy now?







Hekate

(90,936 posts)
17. Excuse me? Elections have consequences, & America is living thru the mother of all consequences
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:56 PM
May 2020

I don't think DI is rehashing, just observing

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
18. It is rehashing. First of all there's no reason for it, especially now.
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:03 PM
May 2020

Poking and haranguing doesn't accomplish anything except exacerbate ill will and start arguments.

If we don't become more united before November we're all fucked. Who cares whether the Bernie Bros are worse than the PUMAs. It's all bullshit if we don't come together soon.

Hekate

(90,936 posts)
25. Ahh, I see. You heard the name that was not said. I heard "Jill Stein"
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:20 PM
May 2020

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. There is no forgetting how we got to this point.
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:14 PM
May 2020

Unless we reiterate the errors of the past, we stand to repeat it.

What we are witnessing with Trump is impossible to simply forget how we got here.

Painful as it is, the history has been written, & it can never be changed nor be ignored.

#💙2020

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
15. I will forever be angry at these people. I will forever blame them what we all have to experience.
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:54 PM
May 2020

I will forever disrespect their position. I will forever see their callousness of fellow man.

Hekate

(90,936 posts)
43. Yes, some of them really are. But many an OP addresses people (such as Trump) who are not at DU
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:23 PM
May 2020

So there's that.

BannonsLiver

(16,539 posts)
23. Yep, that's where ideological purity and intractable beliefs get us
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:17 PM
May 2020

But this is what they wanted, so here we are.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
24. Well to be fair, it has all been burnt down.
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:19 PM
May 2020

Now Democrats have to put it all back together - seems to have happened a lot over the last 30 years or so.

Mosby

(16,395 posts)
26. That sentiment goes back a ways
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:20 PM
May 2020

I worked with a guy who voted for Nader, after Bush was elected I asked him if he regretted wasting his vote. He smirked at me and said "sometimes things have to get worse before they get better". I'm still waiting for the better.

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