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CTyankee

(63,914 posts)
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:45 AM May 2020

Which level of grief are you in right now, according to Kubler Ross?

1. Shock and denial. This is a state of disbelief and numbed feelings.
2. Pain and guilt. You may feel that the loss is unbearable and that you’re making other people’s lives harder because of your feelings and needs.
3. Anger and bargaining. You may lash out, telling God or a higher power that you’ll do anything they ask if they’ll only grant you relief from these feelings.
4. Depression. This may be a period of isolation and loneliness during which you process and reflect on the loss.
5. The upward turn. At this point, the stages of grief like anger and pain have died down, and you’re left in a more calm and relaxed state.
6. Reconstruction and working through. You can begin to put pieces of your life back together and carry forward.
7. Acceptance and hope. This is a very gradual acceptance of the new way of life and a feeling of possibility in the future.

I hate to say it but I think I am at the first stage. Because I can never get to 3 since the assault on us is so frequent.




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CTyankee

(63,914 posts)
2. I did a cut and paste from a site on depression.
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:53 AM
May 2020

I'd like to say 3 or 4 but events keep bouncing me back to 1.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
4. Here's a handy chart for visualization.
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:57 AM
May 2020





I'm at the acceptance level. I fully accept things are truly FUBAR and there is very little I can do, but, protect myself and those around me.

rurallib

(62,469 posts)
5. depends on what in particular you are talking about, but in general
Sat May 30, 2020, 11:04 AM
May 2020

I am in some stage of shock or anger most of the time any more.

Kaleva

(36,371 posts)
6. Level 7. I've been there for years now.
Sat May 30, 2020, 11:15 AM
May 2020

"If there's a remedy when trouble strikes,
What reason is there for dejection?
And if there is no help for it,
What use is there in being glum?"

https://buddhistspain.wordpress.com/2018/02/13/the-way-of-the-bodhisattva-shantideva/

Upthevibe

(8,088 posts)
8. Great question for a much needed conversation...
Sat May 30, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

I have vacillated (not sure if that's the best word) between 1 through 4. I'm unable to even consider #5, #6 or #7. It's surprising how often I go back to shock and denial. I've for sure had the anger as I'm screaming at my T.V. set "This wouldn't have happened if President Obama was in office." And so far the depression is normally when I first wake up. Fortunately, I usually go to YouTube and have some "go to" videos to watch that will make me feel better, get me laughing, be heart warming, etc.


CTyankee

(63,914 posts)
11. My grandson was 3 when Obama left office. He LOVED Obama and would NOT accept that
Sat May 30, 2020, 03:19 PM
May 2020

Trump was now president. "NO TWUMP! I want my fwend Pwesident Bawack!" I felt so sorry for him. He was really upset...and we all felt just like him!

CTyankee

(63,914 posts)
13. Just got a look at Trump's fat ass attending the space launch.
Sat May 30, 2020, 03:52 PM
May 2020

He didn't deserve that happening while he was President.

I want' him to go away and never come back again.

Initech

(100,114 posts)
14. No and especially not while there's a pandemic and riots going on.
Sat May 30, 2020, 03:54 PM
May 2020

When there's a travel ban, he's certainly doing a lot of traveling.

Hekate

(90,914 posts)
15. I feel like there's been no opportunity to move past #1, in the rush of chaos. Bewilderment...
Sat May 30, 2020, 04:02 PM
May 2020

If someone dies or you lose your career or you get a possibly-fatal diagnosis -- yes, there is a progression of feelings. You eventually take stock.

But if you are thrown into a giant clothes dryer with a bucket of bolts, there's not a moment to take stock in the maelstrom. It goes on and on and on.

It's my country that is being mutilated and possibly dying. I can't come to terms with that.

CTyankee

(63,914 posts)
17. Perfect analogy. I wish I were still traveling. I would love to go to Europe and just sit in a cafe
Sat May 30, 2020, 07:14 PM
May 2020

or a church that was open. Not a believer, but I found churches to be quiet and cool if I needed a bit of a rest during my travels...

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