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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 02:52 PM May 2020

We are Antifa

...for all practical purposes, under this threat Trump made to classify 'Antifa' as a terrorist organization, anyone who protests, or organizes against him or his policies would fall under the order.

'Antifa,' or anti-fascist, is more of an ideal adopted by a loose, diverse association of individual interests, than it's an organized group that can be readily identified and held accountable. It's mostly a moniker the right-wing has placed on progressive resistance to their anti-American, anti-democracy ambitions and actions.

In effect, as far as Trump is concerned, we all are Antifa. Opposing this classification Trump wants is in our own defense, no matter what banner your opposition falls under.


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Mike Niendorff

(3,461 posts)
1. Why do you think they prefer the term "antifa"?
Sun May 31, 2020, 02:55 PM
May 2020

Lot harder for them to admit that they want to stamp out American anti-fascists.


MDN

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
16. Not Too Long Ago. Being Opposed to Fascism Was a Good Thing
Sun May 31, 2020, 05:21 PM
May 2020


Now, the goose steppers are seen as the American patriots.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. Antifa, Socialists, Libs, all the same thing to the christofascists
Sun May 31, 2020, 02:56 PM
May 2020

But you are right, Trump could possibly use this to have his political opponents labeled a terrorist and arrested.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
3. American Nazi Terrorist Insurance Fraud Agressors
Sun May 31, 2020, 02:57 PM
May 2020

"Terrorism is all about branding - and the psychology of lotteries." William Gibson, "Zero History"

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
4. Not that Trump would ever have this kind of power, but we should not forget the past...
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:07 PM
May 2020
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/political-prisoners

Given the Nazis' public aims of destroying the “Marxist” threat in Germany and tearing up the Versailles Treaty...Hitler's political opponents were the first victims of systematic Nazi persecution.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
10. I think the current day antifa are right-wing, larping, cosplay assholes.
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:23 PM
May 2020

So, yeah, don't count me in with those pissants.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
15. for all intents and purposes
Sun May 31, 2020, 05:13 PM
May 2020

...as far as the Trump Justice Dept. would be concerned, all progressive dissent and protest would be labeled 'Antifada' under his imagined edict, given that he's basically setting up a strawman as a vehicle for directing the FBI and the Attorney General to track, sanction, arrest, and stifle voices of dissent which are as disparate and nebulous as his new, invented nemesis.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
7. We are indeed, antifa. We have a long and strong history of authoritarian fascist resistance.
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:21 PM
May 2020

Western Europe gives thanks for its existence because of antifa.

Fascists are enslavers of people's minds and bodies.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/an-intimate-history-of-antifa

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
9. Indeed, we are antifa. We have a long and strong history of resistance to authoritarian fascists.
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:23 PM
May 2020

Western Europe gives thanks for its existence to antifa.


Fascism will always try to control minds and bodies. Antifa will always stop it.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/an-intimate-history-of-antifa

MenloParque

(512 posts)
13. Hell yeah I am anti-fascist
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:45 PM
May 2020

I am anti-fascist to the core. However, I am in no way, shape, or form the same as black clothed, hammer/umbrella wielding, window breaking, and especially anti-police. Protest peacefully YES..but FUCK ORGANIZED ANTIFA RIOTERS.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
14. I am ANTIFA, because... fuck Nazis!
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:48 PM
May 2020

And fuck white supremacists too. Also fuck Trump, fuck Pence, fuck Barr, fuck Limbaugh, fuck Hannity, fuck the Proud Boys, fuck the III%ers, fuck Patriot Prayer, fuck racist cops, fuck all those assholes!

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