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Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:02 AM

"The NMCG just gunned down someone in cold blood at a protest outside the Albuquerque Museum"

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Nick Estes @nick_w_estes · 9h

Some got shot in Abq by the fascist New Mexico Civil Guard shot someone.





Sorry for the typos. The NMCG just gunned down someone in cold blood at a protest outside the Albuquerque Museum.

This is the shooter. He said, “My father is the BCSO (Bernalillo County Sheriffs Office).”



Seconds after this guy shot into the crowd hitting one person (who is in bad condition), his fashy NMCG buddies surrounded him to protect him from the people. These guys were working with the cops weeks earlier.


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The shooter’s name is Steven Baca. He’s the son of a former sheriff and once ran for ABQ city council.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1377702/six-candidates-vying-for-district-2-council-seat.html?amp=1







The victim is expected to survive. He’s in surgery now.

On the Abq police scanners, cops referred to the New Mexico Civil Guard as “armed friendlies.”

1:17 AM - Jun 16, 2020













WaPo: Police detain armed militia members after man is shot at Albuquerque protest

By Katie Shepherd

June 16, 2020 at 5:42 a.m. EDT

Protesters in Albuquerque wrapped a chain around the neck of a bronze statue and began tugging, chanting “Tear it down,” shortly before sunset on Monday. Their efforts to pull down a monument of Spanish conquistador Juan de Oñate suddenly stopped as four shots rang out.

Most people instinctively turned toward the noise, videos from the scene show. A few screamed. Just yards away, a group of militia men sporting militarylike garb and carrying semiautomatic rifles formed a protective circle around the gunman.

The gunshots, which left one man in critical but stable condition, have set off a cascade of public outcry denouncing the unregulated militia’s presence and the shooting, although police have yet to announce an arrest or describe exactly what happened. The victim is also unidentified.

“The heavily armed individuals who flaunted themselves at the protest, calling themselves a ‘civil guard,’ were there for one reason: To menace protesters, to present an unsanctioned show of unregulated force,” New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) said in a statement. “To menace the people of New Mexico with weaponry — with an implicit threat of violence — is on its face unacceptable; that violence did indeed occur is unspeakable.”

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Reply "The NMCG just gunned down someone in cold blood at a protest outside the Albuquerque Museum" (Original post)
Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 OP
dewsgirl Jun 2020 #1
The Magistrate Jun 2020 #2
2naSalit Jun 2020 #3
pazzyanne Jun 2020 #29
marble falls Jun 2020 #30
StClone Jun 2020 #31
Dread Pirate Roberts Jun 2020 #4
SaveOurDemocracy Jun 2020 #5
dalton99a Jun 2020 #8
Ilsa Jun 2020 #10
Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #27
dalton99a Jun 2020 #45
Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #6
oasis Jun 2020 #7
iscooterliberally Jun 2020 #9
Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #15
Liberal In Texas Jun 2020 #11
niyad Jun 2020 #13
Liberal In Texas Jun 2020 #17
dalton99a Jun 2020 #23
Captain Zero Jun 2020 #24
Tipperary Jun 2020 #48
keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #14
bullwinkle428 Jun 2020 #12
aeromanKC Jun 2020 #16
czarjak Jun 2020 #18
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #19
niyad Jun 2020 #36
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Cosmocat Jun 2020 #46
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:10 AM

1. 😭😭😭 almost every single day.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:10 AM

2. Sounds Like That Police Department Needs A Thorough Cleansing, Sir

'Armed friendlies' indeed.

This militia rabble needs to be stamped out, not just here but nationwide.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:25 AM

3. +1, Sir.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:19 AM

29. Amen,

and should happen at the federal level. November 3rd can't come soon enough.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:38 AM

30. Without a question.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:41 AM

31. The article has it right: "unregulated militia's"

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:36 AM

4. No doubt taken into custody without being shot by police

One of the MAGA Village People shoots an unarmed protestor and yet the police don't see him as a threat. Didn't get shot in the back or choked or clubbed or tear-gassed. Good to know what kind of behavior is acceptable.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:39 AM

5. WTH is the NM CIVIL guard? Are they part of the police, a militia group?

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Response to SaveOurDemocracy (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:51 AM

8. It's a right-wing militia



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:58 AM

10. Who gave them permission to "police" the streets?

Did the governor or mayor send them? Who told them to bring guns and shoot civilians?

Damn, wtf is wrong with people?

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On edit, here's what is in WaPo article:
The heavily armed individuals who flaunted themselves at the protest, calling themselves a ‘civil guard,’ were there for one reason: To menace protesters, to present an unsanctioned show of unregulated force,” New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) said in a statement. “To menace the people of New Mexico with weaponry — with an implicit threat of violence — is on its face unacceptable; that violence did indeed occur is unspeakable.”

Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller (D) said the statue would now be speedily removed as an “urgent matter of public safety” until authorities determine a next step.

“The shooting tonight was a tragic, outrageous and unacceptable act of violence and it has no place in our city,” Keller said in a statement. “Our diverse community will not be deterred by acts meant to divide or silence us. Our hearts go out [to] the victim, his family and witnesses whose lives were needlessly threatened tonight.”div class="excerpt"]


Provacateurs. Not a "well-regulated" militia.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:15 AM

27. The "Capt" is...

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... wearing his "Boogaloo" shirt.

"Armed Friendlies" indeed.

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Response to Happy Hoosier (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:17 AM

45. Yep, Proud Boys and Boogaloo Bois

https://progressnownm.org/?p=224607
The Proud Boys and Boogaloo Bois ARE the NM Civil Guard. They pulled a gun last year, Doxxed our ProgressNow Staff last week and protected their shooter buddy yesterday.
By Marianna Anaya | 1 hour ago

You need to know that the Proud Boys are the same people as the Boogaloo Bois, are the same people as the NM Civil Guard- the people who protected their shooter buddy yesterday. The City of Albuquerque Police Chief Michael Gier said that APD will be holding the NM Civil Guard accountable “to the fullest extent of the law, including federal hate group designation and prosecution” … but the Proud Boys are already designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Southern Poverty Law Center has done extensive pieces on the Boogaloo Bois– the armed militia group the showed up to “protect property” at a George Floyd Vigil in Las Cruces last week. These are the same people with the same ideals- to protect White Supremacy including the monuments that glorify it, like the Onate statue.

Last year, we covered the Proud Boys and the Hiwaymen’s “flag-waving” rally in support of Trump, where shortly after the “rally” they pulled a gun on a community member.

These are the same people who showed up to the 2nd Amendment Rally during the 2020 Legislative Session where several GOP State Representatives and Senators spoke to a group of hateful fear-mongering extremists. Birds of a feather, the Proud Boys were in good company with many toating their weapons on the Capitol grounds.

These are the same people who claim to be the “New Mexico Civil Guard” a self-appointed armed militia that created a new Facebook page to rebrand themselves as something other than Proud Boys and Boogaloo Bois. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.) These are the same folks that APD called “armed friendlies” on their scanner. They are the same people that showed up armed to a George Floyd memorial in Las Cruces as the “Boogaloo Bois” and proceeded to doxx and out ProgressNow NM staff on their NM Civil Guard Facebook Page. These are the same people that we at ProgressNow NM, alongside so many community activists like NM Right Wing Watch, and Albuquerque Community Defense have been calling out for years.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:41 AM

6. Stunning story

Why isn't this national headline news. One of these Pro Trump militias shooting innocent people in the street.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:44 AM

7. +1

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:24 AM

15. I added the WaPo story to the OP

I agree, this should be at the TOP of the news, not buried.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:02 AM

11. I see where they were "detained"

but I hope they had their asses thrown in jail.



They're nothing more than vigilantes.

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:22 AM

13. What the HELL is that thug carrying? What is that thing around his neck on that chain?

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Damned, murderous THUGS.

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Response to niyad (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:37 AM

17. That's a good question. Tinfoil covered something hung with swag lamp chain.

These people are strange.

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Response to niyad (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:57 AM

23. Looks like a gas mask canister

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Response to niyad (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:01 AM

24. I'll say -- it that guy looks like FBI or ATF to me.

I'm guessing these dullards have had someone assigned to them since they are just smart enough to be dangerous.

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Response to niyad (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:23 AM

48. Toilet paper roll was my first thought!

 

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:23 AM

14. Is that a roll of toilet paper on a chain from his neck?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:13 AM

12. We are officially entering the "Brown-shirts" phase, in our Nazi Germany analogy.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:30 AM

16. Hate crime Felony assault attempted murder

He should get 20 years!! ( But will walk)

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:37 AM

18. "What, have you got to lose"?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:52 AM

19. APD: Protest shooter arrested, charged - Albuquerque Journal

APD: Protest shooter arrested, charged
Albuquerque Journal
By Martin Salazar / Journal City Editor
Tuesday, June 16th, 2020 at 6:35am

Link: https://www.abqjournal.com/1466753/apd-protest-shooter-arrested-charged-with-aggravated-battery.html

Excerpt:
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Albuquerque police say they have arrested a 31-year-old man in connection with Monday night’s shooting during a protest outside the Albuquerque Museum in Old Town.

Stephen Ray Baca, 31, is being booked into the Metro Detention Center on a charge of aggravated battery, Albuquerque Police Department spokesman Gilbert Gallegos said early Tuesday morning. A man at the protest was seriously injured in the shooting.

These hooligans are too stupid or brainwashed to even admit their presence with weapons intimidate and induce fear into most everyday people.

KY

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:49 AM

36. "Aggravated battery" sounds like he got punched, does not sound like he was SHOT IN COLD BLOOD

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Response to niyad (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:56 AM

42. more like attempted murder!

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Response to niyad (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:11 AM

43. Sounds like these goons are intimidating more than just protesters.

Some of them might even be cops.

KY

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Response to niyad (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:22 AM

46. Yeah, not sure I have heard of someone who shot some else being charged with battery

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #46)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 11:44 AM

52. I have.

Fairly common charge if intent to kill isn’t provable. It’s always better to charge with something rock solid than overshoot the charge and risk an acquittal.

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Response to niyad (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:23 AM

47. It is typically better to review the text of a statute ...

 

rather than trying to go by what the statute title “sounds like.”

30-3-5. Aggravated battery.

A. Aggravated battery consists of the unlawful touching or application of force to the person of another with intent to injure that person or another.

B. Whoever commits aggravated battery, inflicting an injury to the person which is not likely to cause death or great bodily harm, but does cause painful temporary disfigurement or temporary loss or impairment of the functions of any member or organ of the body, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

C. Whoever commits aggravated battery inflicting great bodily harm or does so with a deadly weapon or does so in any manner whereby great bodily harm or death can be inflicted is guilty of a third degree felony.


It appears that in New Mexico, if you shoot someone and injure them (unlawfully), and the prosecutor cannot prove an intent to kill, aggravated battery would be an appropriate charge.

I’m curious what the circumstances were that would warrant such a charging decision. Perhaps he got in an altercation with one person, shot at that person, missed that person and injured some bystander? I really don’t know.

We need every protester who is comfortable with firearms to come to protests armed. Don’t let the right wing militia murder us in the streets under police protection ... “armed friendlies” as the police call these right wingers.

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Response to PTWB (Reply #47)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

51. My guess is that armed protesters will be treated very differently than "armed friendlies".

Just a hunch.

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Response to PTWB (Reply #47)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:34 PM

56. Thank you. That was most informative.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:53 AM

20. The FACT that these people can walk around uncontested with "weapons of mass destruction"

is so wrong that it makes me apoplectic.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:56 AM

21. Don't shoot me, give me a professional courtesy will ya.

My dad is a retired cop.

Be sure to tell that to all the other guys in the joint.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:57 AM

22. I can't say what needs to be done.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:25 AM

49. And who is going to do it?

 

You?

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:58 PM

57. Neither can I. nt

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:03 AM

25. "A well regulated militia"

Who is regulating this militia? What regulations are impacting this shooting of Americans for a political agenda?

Sounds like domestic terrorism

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:15 AM

28. We have hundreds of self-appointed militias like this all over the country.

Most of them are right-wing anti-government racists who want to start a civil war to get rid of all the minorities. And you’re right. They’re all domestic terrorists and should be treated as such by law enforcement.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:48 AM

35. If they are using violence and intimidation for a political agenda

then they are domestic terrorists according to the US code. They should be charged with something and prosecuted. Like assault with a deadly weapon at least since they shot someone. It's absolutely deplorable that they are getting away with this.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:14 AM

26. The Reich Wing answer to defund the police. Look for Trump to praise them at his rally.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:42 AM

32. This is what happens when people bring guns. It opens the door for this EXACT situation. nt

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:46 AM

33. who appointed these people defacto gaurds? themselves ? glad the fuzz is

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detaining them. these are not well regulated millitia. this is the very reason we do not need these weapons in the general public. hot heads is a tearm that i use for these idiots. i have always viewed these as domestic terroists , not patriots . if a person of color did this , look out .

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:46 AM

34. The Wingnuts were "protecting" the Statue of an Hispanic Guy, albeit a White One

 

PROGRESS IN RACISM!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:49 AM

37. I'm glad to see the WoPo use "unregulated" militia to describe the group. Seems that needs to be the

talking point to end their open carry in groups like militias, the point being unregulated which is what the 2nd amendment mentions.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:53 AM

38. I'm tired of retired cops and family members of cops thinking they are something special. I'm also

tired of current LEO's thinking that about them too. These people are only citizens, same as the rest of us. Law abiding people do not shoot into a crowd just because they think they can. It's all such bullshit.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:54 AM

39. Read about this last night, so happy to read the shot protester is expected to survive. Something

needs to be done with these militia domestic terrorists. This reall could have gotten out of hand.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:54 AM

40. people of this type

that hatefully shoot unarmed people want a civil-class-race war. Trump and a majority of his administration, his family of grifters who want to keep looting and cultists want this. Will there be a democracy left after Nov..3..2020? This is my major concern even if Joe Biden wins the popular vote. We still must get past our EC, putin's huge troll-disinformation hacker farms and RepublicanParty voter suppression of POC.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:56 AM

41. I bet no one put a knee in their necks

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:14 AM

44. The "armed friendlies" were probably taken to Burger King

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:32 AM

50. Local terrorist organization in league with local authorities. nt

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:04 PM

53. The sad thing is, that any attempt to rein in these groups will be regarded as

an intolerable infringement on 2nd Amendment rights.

The current party line among 2A defenders is that groups of heavily armed men prominently displaying military style weaponry, in a manner that's inherently threatening and intimidating, are harmlessly engaging in free expression of their 2A freedoms. This line can even be seen on this very site.

This type of situation is only going to get worse until there's a fundamental reevaluation of the meaning of the 2nd Amendment.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:20 PM

54. I'll be referring to him as Steve Caca /nt

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:14 PM

55. Civil Guard? Like Francisco Franco's guardia civil?

I'm sure the similarity in names in purely intentional

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 11:49 PM

58. Domestic terrorists Republican fascists nt

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