Romney: Overturn Roe v. Wade! That's why it is important to get Democrats in House and Senate!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

We need a *PROGRESSIVE* Supermajority of Democrats in the House and Senate!!!!!

[handmade34]

1. and...

a Democratic President in case there is an opening on the Supreme Court!!!!!!!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

2. That goes without saying...or typing!! :)

[handmade34]

18. well...

I remember all the brouhaha in 2010 and many here complaining... "what difference does it make" or some other such nonsense.... I kept replying and posting... 6 words... "John Boehner, Speaker of the House"

these common sense notions need to be said...

[mr_liberal]

5. There definitely will be an opening.

Ginsburg will retire for the next president. Kennedy may also retire. Those are two pro-choice pro-Roe votes.

[mr_liberal]

3. The House has nothing to do with it.

Presidents nominate supreme court justices.

The Senate can advise and consent.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

6. Of course I know this. But if we need to overturn Court decisions, that takes

an act of House AND Senate. And it these racist Republican pricks just decide that they want to find a reason to impeach the president, we need an impeachment-proof House.

I know how my government works, but thanks for playing anyway.

[mr_liberal]

8. No, tghe supreme court would overturn

Roe v Wade. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. CONGRESS OVERRIDES SCOTUS DECISIONS!!!!

SCOTUS makes clear its decisions via precedent.

I'm not saying that it is easy. It takes 3/4 of ALL state legislatures and majority of each chamber of Congress to AMEND the Constitution.

[mr_liberal]

11. No it doesnt

Youre talking nonsense.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

12. Show me where? Where in the Constitution, please?

[mr_liberal]

15. There won't be any act of congress to overturn

a supreme court decision that overturned Roe V Wade. I have no idea what you're talking about.

The issue is what justices are on the supreme court. Thats why you need Obama to win so he can put pro Roe liberal judges on the supreme court to protect Roe v wade.

A democratic senate could possibly stop a Pres Romney from putting anti Roe judges on the supreme court but that would be difficult. The House has nothing to do with the issue at all.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

19. I know exactly what I'm talking about.

Review your Constitution, please.

Once again, I know that the House has nothing to do with approving justices. I made a statement about what it would mean if Romney was president. I was writing in generalities, not about approving justices via the Senate.

I know what I'm talking about.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

14. Here...

How Congress Checks the Supreme Court:
Senate approves federal judges, including Supreme Court justices (Advise and Consent Clause)
Impeachment power (House)
Trial of impeachments (Senate)
Power to initiate constitutional amendments (to undo supreme court decisions)
Power to set courts inferior to the Supreme Court
Power to set jurisdiction of courts (they can tell a court that they can not hear a case on a certain topic, which includes changing the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court)
Power to alter the size of the Supreme Court (if the size is drastically increased the President may select all the new justices and change the sway of power)

More Information

Congress can check the power of the Supreme Court through the process of Constitutional Amendment. While the Supreme Court can rule that a particular law is unconstitutional, it cannot rule that the Constitution itself is unconstitutional. If the Congress (and 3/4 of the state legislatures) approve a constitutional amendment, it becomes the supreme law of the land, and the Supreme Court cannot overrule the Constitution.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_Congress_check_the_power_of_the_US_Supreme_Court#ixzz1iq6GdBZH

[mr_liberal]

16. The chances of a constitutional amendment

for abortion are ZERO. Its not even worth discussing.

Lets just protect Roe v Wade. Youre confusing things.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

20. I UNDERSTAND THAT!! That wasn't the point!!!

[mr_liberal]

23. Youre talking about something that

will never happen, so why even bring it up? The issue re abortion is the supreme court.

You act like if Roe v Wade is overturned we can just amend the constitution, and that will never happen. You're focused on the wrong thing.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. The general point of my OP was that the president needs a House and Senate that is overwhelmingly

progressive. Perhaps I made a mistake in how I explained what I meant, but it wasn't necessarily just about the Senate/SCOTUS per say. It was about Congress and electing Obama as president.

[handmade34]

22. no arguing...

consensus must be... work very hard to get as many Democrats (President, Senators, Congressmen, state officials, etc) as possible elected... I will have to take personally drastic measures if Roe V Wade is overturned... that is a nightmare scenario... as is just about every one of the Republicans proposals

[Ron Obvious]

4. Just words, I suspect

I often suspect that more or less sane, mainstream Republicans like Romney never actually want to outlaw abortion for fear of a) rallying Democrats, and b) losing an hot-button election issue that gets evangelicals out to the polls.

I obviously don't include nutbags like Santorum in that group.

The supreme court may be a greater worry, of course.

[mr_liberal]

7. Thats wrong.

Presidents nominate supreme court justices, supreme court justices decide whether Roe overturned. Bush put two anti roe justices on the supreme court. Romney would add more.

Thsi idea that they're playing a political game is a lie. If there are enough votes on the supreme court to overturn Roe v Wade it will happen, and there are 4 votes now.

[opihimoimoi]

10. Its been their goal from day 1.....its twue

[coalition_unwilling]

24. You forgot c) Republican wives and daughters who want abortions. Am I

being too cynical?

[Hippo_Tron]

26. While probably true, doesn't mean they can't do damage

They can gut Roe v Wade of having any real protection of abortion rights without ever really overturning it, so that they'll still have the rallying cry.

Besides even if they did overturn Roe v Wade, abortion will still be legal in some states. They will be able to say that we need more Alito's and Thomas's on the Supreme Court so that they will rule that the federal government can ban abortion everywhere.

[Enrique]

13. Romney doesnt care about abortion

he cares about making money for him and his friends.

[mr_liberal]

17. But the GOP base does

And theyd make sure he nominates an anti Roe Judge to the supreme court.

[maximusveritas]

21. Another extremist position that he flip-flopped to in 2008

It's amazing how some people (even people here) still call him a moderate. He may have been 10 years ago in MA, but he is no longer.

[sakabatou]

28. "Women should be barefoot, naked and in the kitchen!"