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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:00 AM Jun 2020

Biden Is Even With Trump A 12 Point Lead Can Be Overcome With Suppression And Cheating

Biden needs to win by 30% or more to insure a victory.

Anything less than that and Trump will declare Marshall Law or something.

We are even right now.

Get Busy....

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Biden Is Even With Trump A 12 Point Lead Can Be Overcome With Suppression And Cheating (Original Post) DanieRains Jun 2020 OP
National polls are worthless. What are the swing state polls, that will determine the election still_one Jun 2020 #1
More to the point, it can be overcome by demographics... regnaD kciN Jun 2020 #2
The 3 million vote margin is meaningless dansolo Jun 2020 #5
I don;t buy into conspriracy stuff now or ever, Biden's lead is real and he does not need to win beachbumbob Jun 2020 #3
Its not the lead, its the detail subsets within that is important sunonmars Jun 2020 #4
Keep working oswaldactedalone Jun 2020 #6
Biden won't win by 30%. That is almost impossible. Norbert Jun 2020 #7

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
2. More to the point, it can be overcome by demographics...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:28 AM
Jun 2020

We saw that in 2016. Before that, the assumption was that an election had to be razor-thin to wind up with an electoral/popular vote split. But a three-million-vote margin wasn't slim.

First of all, it's highly doubtful that, going into Election Day, the gap will be this large. If nothing else, the media (which has no slant greater than the bias in wanting an exciting "horse-race," will be doing all they can to make sure the gap has narrowed. Trump will finally get some rallies in places where people do turn out, allowing the press to present his campaign as "resurgent," while all we'll hear about Biden are "questions" about everything from his age to a whole TaraReade'O'Thon.

Given that the race is bound to narrow, even if Biden gets more votes than Clinton did in 2016, the big question is "where will those votes be cast?" The race is clear: either Biden has to win back all three of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin while not losing any other 2016 states, or he has to win enough other Trump 2016 states (Florida/North Carolina/Arizona) to make up whatever he doesn't win in the "key three." If we can't do one of those two, it's four more years of Trump...no matter how many more people who sat out 2016 cast their votes for him in solid blue states.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
5. The 3 million vote margin is meaningless
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 07:01 AM
Jun 2020

Hillary Clinton won California by 4.3 million votes. That means that outside of California, she lost the popular vote to Trump by 1.3 million votes.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. I don;t buy into conspriracy stuff now or ever, Biden's lead is real and he does not need to win
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 06:15 AM
Jun 2020

by 30% to win. If the voters turn up, Biden will demolish trump and it all goes back to us turning out the vote. Not wasting time on fictional scenarios.

Norbert

(6,041 posts)
7. Biden won't win by 30%. That is almost impossible.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 07:47 AM
Jun 2020

Even with a good candidate like Biden vs a candidate that keeps shedding voters, like you know who, it won't happen.

Hopefully a Biden 10% win will be decisive. rump will be beaten down and if he pulls any shenanigans he will risk a bloodbath in this country.

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