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Ohiogal

(32,010 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:33 PM Jun 2020

Choir of more than 100 people perform without masks at Pence event

Washington(CNN) A choir of more than 100 people performed without masks at a robustly attended event in Texas at the First Baptist Church on Sunday that featured a speech by Vice President Mike Pence.

Nearly 2,200 people attended the "Celebrate Freedom Rally," in the Lone Star State, according to rally organizers, which has seen a severe surge in coronavirus cases since easing restrictions. The venue capacity for the indoor event was close to 3,000 attendees, organizers say.

Throughout the service, the members of the choir sang at full volume, behind an orchestra. Between songs, the choir members put their masks back on when they sat down, according to pool reports from the event. The members of the choir had space between them, but it was not clear if it was the recommended six feet.

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Choir of more than 100 people perform without masks at Pence event (Original Post) Ohiogal Jun 2020 OP
They put their masks back on after singing closing the barn door after the horse has left MLAA Jun 2020 #1
People from my church are anxious to get back to phylny Jun 2020 #2
Right now, churches are pestholes. Mariana Jun 2020 #20
They are. phylny Jun 2020 #32
That is the definition of looking out for your flock bottomofthehill Jun 2020 #26
They are. They pay attention to - wait for it... phylny Jun 2020 #31
Didn't they read about that choir in Skagit county WA? captain queeg Jun 2020 #3
They don't read. I think it was more like 60 cases with a couple of deaths. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #24
Fuuuuck. Choirs are particularly dangerous. Cal Carpenter Jun 2020 #4
I believe that's Robert Jeffress' church. Girard442 Jun 2020 #5
How doesn't this idiot have Covid-19 yet? Ohiogal Jun 2020 #6
Could doctors be injecting Trump and Pence with antibodies? LisaL Jun 2020 #11
That's what I've been wondering. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #25
probably he and trump had it was asymptomatic and they are lying to us about it mucifer Jun 2020 #17
Trump could never resist boasting if he got it and beat it. Mariana Jun 2020 #22
Actually, I would prefer that him and Trump stay healthy. Blue_true Jun 2020 #28
I read that singing is as dangerous as coughing. Cardio is dangerous too. Beakybird Jun 2020 #7
When you are singing and projecting your voice sdfernando Jun 2020 #8
Just hope no one has the virus. Srkdqltr Jun 2020 #9
at least half of the attendees wore masks.. stillcool Jun 2020 #10
The choir took their masks of for singing. LisaL Jun 2020 #12
Maybe they think Ohiogal Jun 2020 #14
Yeah...that's a lot of inhaling.. stillcool Jun 2020 #29
The 2020 Darwin Awards... JarOCats Jun 2020 #13
Idiots. They obviously learned nothing from this early superspreader case in Washington state: catbyte Jun 2020 #15
Footage of their rehearsal: Music Man Jun 2020 #16
2 things I miss more than anything Freddie Jun 2020 #18
They were waiting and waiting for the Rapture, until they tried this one weird trick. tanyev Jun 2020 #19
Between songs they put their masks back on. As if that would matter. Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #21
Best way to spread it. Gets it nice deep down in your lungs. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #23
He wore a mask.. stillcool Jun 2020 #30
Again, cloth masks are mostly to protect those around you. LisaL Jun 2020 #33
We can always hope. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #34
Ahhhh, hopefully they were recircing the AC air. Blue_true Jun 2020 #27
The Covid Tabernacle Choir Blue Owl Jun 2020 #35
Well, this should end well. area51 Jun 2020 #36
RIP Sugarcoated Jun 2020 #37

phylny

(8,380 posts)
2. People from my church are anxious to get back to
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jun 2020

the building and want a choir. Pastors say, “Not yet” and “heck no!”

phylny

(8,380 posts)
31. They are. They pay attention to - wait for it...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jun 2020

SCIENCE!

In all seriousness, they know that 80% of the members are over the age of 60, they're not messing around.

captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
3. Didn't they read about that choir in Skagit county WA?
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:44 PM
Jun 2020

About a month ago, supposedly they were following most of the rules except when they sang. About 30 of them came down with Covid

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
4. Fuuuuck. Choirs are particularly dangerous.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jun 2020

One of the earliest clusters in the NW was a choir rehearsal. A friend is a vocal coach and jokes about never before seeing her profession on a HIGH RISK list.

A choir of 100 indoors, with 2200 ppl in the audience?

Bad fucking idea.

Ohiogal

(32,010 posts)
6. How doesn't this idiot have Covid-19 yet?
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jun 2020

I wonder how many will get it after this very reckless and stupid event.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
22. Trump could never resist boasting if he got it and beat it.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jun 2020

That's why I really doubt either has been infected.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. Actually, I would prefer that him and Trump stay healthy.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jun 2020

And get bed ridden with covid19 and be on ventilators in early October. Nancy came pass the torch to Joe in January of next year.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
10. at least half of the attendees wore masks..
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jun 2020

that must be considered huge progress. I wouldn't want to be in Texas anytime soon.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. The choir took their masks of for singing.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jun 2020

If anybody in a choir was infected, singing spreads it bigly.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
29. Yeah...that's a lot of inhaling..
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:38 PM
Jun 2020

and exhaling going on...you add the other 1500 people not wearing masks, it could be quite the hot spot.

catbyte

(34,406 posts)
15. Idiots. They obviously learned nothing from this early superspreader case in Washington state:
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e6.htm

High SARS-CoV-2 Attack Rate Following Exposure at a Choir Practice — Skagit County, Washington, March 2020

Weekly / May 15, 2020 / 69(19);606–610

On May 12, 2020, this report was posted online as an MMWR Early Release.

Lea Hamner, MPH1; Polly Dubbel, MPH1; Ian Capron1; Andy Ross, MPH1; Amber Jordan, MPH1; Jaxon Lee, MPH1; Joanne Lynn1; Amelia Ball1; Simranjit Narwal, MSc1; Sam Russell1; Dale Patrick1; Howard Leibrand, MD1 (View author affiliations)

Summary

What is already known about this topic?

Superspreading events involving SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, have been reported.

What is added by this report?

Following a 2.5-hour choir practice attended by 61 persons, including a symptomatic index patient, 32 confirmed and 20 probable secondary COVID-19 cases occurred (attack rate = 53.3% to 86.7%); three patients were hospitalized, and two died. Transmission was likely facilitated by close proximity (within 6 feet) during practice and augmented by the act of singing.

What are the implications for public health practice?

The potential for superspreader events underscores the importance of physical distancing, including avoiding gathering in large groups, to control spread of COVID-19. Enhancing community awareness can encourage symptomatic persons and contacts of ill persons to isolate or self-quarantine to prevent ongoing transmission.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
18. 2 things I miss more than anything
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jun 2020

Playing in the community concert band and singing in the church choir. It’s still strange not doing either of these things. Leadership of both are being extremely cautious and haven’t set a date to even try to go back, or what it may look like. I’m on the board of the concert band and we’re looking at maybe Christmas. Or not.

Maraya1969

(22,484 posts)
21. Between songs they put their masks back on. As if that would matter.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jun 2020

"Between songs, the choir members put their masks back on when they sat down, according to pool reports from the event. "


As if this is going to matter!

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
33. Again, cloth masks are mostly to protect those around you.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jun 2020

With hundred of people singing, his cloth masks is not likely to protect him.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. Ahhhh, hopefully they were recircing the AC air.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:20 PM
Jun 2020

I am really fucking tired of those people, if they want to die, I say let them go ahead.

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