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(Raw Story) Fox News host Trace Gallagher suggested on Monday that President Donald Trump might drop out of the 2020 presidential race.
Gallagher made the remarks after a Fox News report speculated that Trump could exit the race if his poll numbers dont improve.
President Trumps poll numbers declining in recent weeks amid criticism of his administrations response to the coronavirus pandemic, the Fox News host said, which is leading some speculation that if his support keeps falling, the president might drop out of the race. .....(more)
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/fox-news-host-trump-is-bleeding-support-and-might-drop-out-of-the-race/?fbclid=IwAR1_ig_oSEwhc_4Q7zSDDFrDulZN2v6hSunuJv4h5V4vj-WN1Xz5f53XwAQ
PCIntern
(25,543 posts)This is not a vacuum produced rumor.
marmar
(77,080 posts)shockey80
(4,379 posts)Botany
(70,502 posts)The powers that be want Trump gone ASAP.
stopdiggin
(11,302 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)He's "settled" on numerous lawsuits and civil court decisions, and on ones that he's adamantly stated he'd never settle. When defeat is at hand, Trumpy will find an escape route. THAT'S a consistent pattern in his life. To deviate from that would cost him dearly. He's always had the MONEY to pay off any entity before losing completely.
So the speculation may have nothing to do with any trial balloon. It just may be that observers are keen to research how Trumpy makes decisions throughout his life. Nonetheless, it's probably a good speculation to say that there's better than a 50-50 chance that he'll resign before the election.
pamela
(3,469 posts)They're already prepping Pence. He's been told "Give lip service to your support of Trump but start morphing away from the crazier shit."
Funny thing is, two days after he's gone, half of Trump's supporters will claim they never liked the guy.
pnwest
(3,266 posts)Pence being prepped after the ramp debacle, when he ran up those stairs to the plane - as if to show how fit he is, and a very suitable replacement candidate. Of course he fucked it up by tripping near the top of the stairs, in keeping with this administrations Keystone Cops style....
not fooled
(5,801 posts)what is it with these guys and ramps?
Instead of "Welcome Your New Infallible Leader, the Vanquisher of Ramps" we get Ramp Debacle II.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)No way would the base support him
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)ace3csusm
(969 posts)Pence becomes President , Barr gets rid of all the SDNY cases... All of a sudden the Republican Senate comes out against Trump claiming that they forced him to resign, that now is a time for healing ....
Volaris
(10,270 posts)I want them sitting in the corner bleeding out and begging for our help. I want us to sit there silently and watch them die.
ace3csusm
(969 posts)Just to send a message to all ...
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,722 posts)Ill start going to church again. 38 years no go.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)Boot camp in the Army. I went because I knew it would be quiet, it would give me a short break from the drill sergeants.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,722 posts)Too young, too stupid, too angry at getting a low draft number.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)Very reasonable choices, Drill Sergeant!
Susan Calvin
(1,646 posts)Plus you got to sing, and it wasn't all religious songs. Not to mention it was coed.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)oasis
(49,382 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Pence will serve as President at least a week (either in 2020-2021 or 2024-2025).
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)substitute someone with a better likability rating. That would tighten race. But, getting rid of trump and pence (cant see him with a lot of support either), would still be good.
jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)He's already been vetted via 2012 contest. Best GOP shot on such short notice. If I were GOP kingmaker it's what I'd do.
llashram
(6,265 posts)won't drop out. They are looking for the trum-pets to beg, plead, be outraged that their fuhrer could even contemplate such a thing. Then they can splash a big headline, trump loved more that ever.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)I've always said he'd never drop out, but:
What if, even with the best cheating money can buy, he sees no way of winning?
Which is worse for him? Being a loser? Or walking away from a "rigged" election and because not enough Americans "love" and appreciate his very big brain?
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)He can then claim to be the most persecuted president in history blah, blah, blah and still retain his followers thereby allowing him to cash in on their utter stupidity for years to come.
Being a beaten loser would not give him the same payday and there is TON of money to be made on fabricated grievance - his family has been doing it since January 2017.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)Maybe some tax stuff associated with his company but it would be an enormous undertaking to prosecute him for things he did while in office. Not to mention that (we're told) decorum dictates that we don't use the Justice Dept. to go after political enemies.
Obama didn't go after the Bush Administration for war crimes, though they most certainly committed them.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)Business related.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)Wishful thinking mostly.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)He'd have Pence pardon him, of course.
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)he will shoot himself in the head before his term is up. On the first day he is not president, he will be arrested and Pence can't pardon him for state law charges. Can anyone seriously believe Trump hasn't committed felonies in every state he has ever done business in?
Luz
(772 posts)amazing life trying to better America, gosh darnnit, he was blocked in every direction. Well, if that's the thanks he gets, then bye.
Other than his usual declaring bankruptcy, it's his only face saving way out.
llashram
(6,265 posts)we have an interesting 4 months coming our way like a runaway locomotive
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)to lose or face punishment. They commit suicide too, sometimes. They do things like this out of inability to face failure or consequences for their actions, or sometimes out of anger to rob their victims of getting justice.
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)cowards, too.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)and protect his ego, and I'm not sure what that would be, unless he can convince himself that he's quitting in order to start a yuge movement to defeat the Deep State.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)He could come up with something face-saving.
"I accomplished everything I set out to do, I'm bored, there's nothing fun left in being president..."
"The deep state is so threatened by a president like me--as great as Abe Lincoln--that they've made it impossible for me to do my job so I'm going back into the private sector, which is so much more exciting than being president in a country that doesn't appreciate my greatness."
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)the GOP have to pay him to "drop out"? There is now way he drops out without a huge, huge chunk of money from republican party. So how much is it worth to them to get rid of trump?
Lock him up.
(6,928 posts)... mnuchin doesn't want anyone to know...
Lock him up before he fLIES away to a safe heaven!
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Trump, the GOP, Faux Noise, and all of the numerous media outlets and dozens of foundations that support them are not going to garner any trust on my part. I don't really care if they admit that water is wet and fire is hot, that won't shift my strong and genuine skepticism which serves as a rather intuitive shield.
I have an open mind, but being played over and over is simply an appeal to gullibility and that's where I get off. Trust is to be earned, not simply given in this context.
Unless proven otherwise, my question is about what new, deceptive strategy they are rolling out to confuse, abuse and mislead everyone for the sole advantage of keeping power overall.
For instance, fears of him dropping out could be a way to rally the followers and supporters to put more effort in since they are in the sunk cost fallacy phase right now. Being heavily invested and then having your iconic, projection idol potentially disappear could be too much for them and so, as in a cult, they may double down.
machoneman
(4,006 posts)...and tell him he must drop out, it ain't gonna happen. Even then, it's unlikely as he NEVER does what other want.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Trump announcing hes not loved is another piece of that effort.
grumpyduck
(6,232 posts)And I hope they're downwind of a herd of elephants with galaxy-class flatulence.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Thats what he does.
Will he flee?
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Not sure Putin would want his blubber ass, when he has nothing to offer. If there is a bigger psychopath than Chump, it's Vlad.
Lock him up.
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Or Panama? He's got a effin empty tower there too. Lots of space to move his sorry sphincter.
Lock him up before he fLIES to any safe heaven!
Turbineguy
(37,324 posts)Now I won't have to go out and vote!
PTWB
(4,131 posts)The worse his polling gets, the harder he will rig and cheat the election. He will NEVER drop out voluntarily.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)He's not dropping out. He'll just pretend everyone loves him.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)...hes talking to the RNC?
Link to tweet
?s=21
95% Approval Rating of President Trump in the Republican Party. I would imagine the 5% are the RINOS and stupid people who dont want to see great Judges & Supreme Court Justices, a new & powerful Military, Choice for Vets, 2A Protection, big RegulationCuts, Life, & much more!
Qutzupalotl
(14,307 posts)and keep Bill Barr in place to save his ass from the slammer. Trump is desperate to avoid prison.
Granted, they would stand a better chance of winning than Trump, but not by a whole lot. Trump made his cult all about *him.* So if hes gone, theyll be a lot less motivated to vote.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Pence will give him a pardon even if he has to resign to get it after the election.
Qutzupalotl
(14,307 posts)so a Biden administration would be a problem for him.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)including Pence, and Pence pardons him.
I think he could argue double jeopardy in Court until he dies for the New York state stuff. SDNY is federal. Barr's obstruction is covered by a pardon.
Qutzupalotl
(14,307 posts)Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)At least not if they replace him with someone who is more likable. If they put a more traditional person up, then that person would likely get votes from republican never trumpers who are either voting for Biden or sitting out. Then there are also the more leftist folks who are still pushing the 'Never Biden' idea that will end up sitting out.
Progressive dog
(6,900 posts)It is unlikely that a pardon given to himself will stand in court and unlikely that a Trump flunky can win against Biden. His only option is to hand the office to Pence in exchange for pardons.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)if I were a treasonous criminal looking for an escape hatch.
SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)the WH. He'll rant and rave and scream about voter fraud and all of this nonsense but we'll still drag his a&& out the door in Jan. 2021.
dalton99a
(81,482 posts)sarisataka
(18,634 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)being president is probably the only thing keeping him from going to jail.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)I want a HUUUGE blue tsunami in November.
Initech
(100,068 posts)I want to see a 414 - 124 overwhelming majority sweep for Biden. And with increased gains in the house, senate, and governor's positions. And as I always say, if you're going to lose, you might as well lose in the most grand fashion that you can possibly lose.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)They may find most republicans will feel relieved to see Trump go.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)primary. So there is historical precedent for his dropping out. But I doubt if he will.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)People said he was dropping out in 2016 after Access Hollywood, and that didn't happen. Also, people on the right called for George HW Bush to drop out in 1992 when he was down in the polls. That was never going to happen either.
This is just what Republicans do when they think an incumbent GOP president is going to lose. They call for them to drop out, and they spread rumors that the candidate is already thinking about it.
palustris
(53 posts)And polled mostly before it was revealed Trump's very good friend Putin pays to kill American soldiers.
Poll numbers and his treason aside, economy is ruined, over hundred thousand dead by biblical plaque which is spreading more rapidly than ever, tens of millions have lost their job, demonstrations on streets and Trump is tweeting white power videos to further escalate them to violence. I'd call that pretty abysmal work performance.
Will he drop out I'm leaning towards no. I think he enjoys the status and power of being the President too much.
EllieBC
(3,014 posts)Did they ask him?
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)If he thinks he can, he'll stay and REALLY crank up the wrecking ball. There has to be justification to start shooting Americans in the streets.
Otherwise, he has the jet fueled and ready to go.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Vague rumors. Something along the lines of "he's mentally as sharp as ever but doctors are wondering if his heart can take the strain of another 4 years, and he has young Barron to think about."
What you are hearing now is a plea to his supporters to rally around him.
QED
(2,747 posts)He's a drag on the down ticket races. If he does drop out, he'll resign for "health reasons" to save face. The GOP might expect Pence to lose but the Senate is the trade off. And Pence can pardon the whole family for federal crimes.
yardwork
(61,599 posts)If the Republicans keep the White House they'll hide all the treasonous behavior and we'll never know.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)bluestateboomer
(505 posts)We still fight to defeat every R we see. Otherwise we're back where we started.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)would stand a better chance of pulling currently disaffected voters back into the Republican column. Especially if Biden insists on having a woman of color as his running mate. All of the racists will flock to the Republican party then. And there are truly a lot of them.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)tRUMP NEVER says " I'm sorry".
tRUMP NEVER admits "defeat".
tRUMP is "in best health of any President, ever"
When we start hearing about how "RIGGED" the election is, how "stacked against "me" the election is and how "corrupt the system is" on a regular hourly basis then consider something like "I'm outta here". But with so many headlines and investigations into *treason* of a sitting potus and the escalating Covid-19 pandemic "rigged" isn't gonna get much traction.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Doubling down and failure. Those two with him are as constant as the North Star.
He will stay in it.
erronis
(15,241 posts)because you can't handle the job or because you are too old?"
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)He has waited too long. My guess is his organization is flimsy. I don't think they could pick Pence as the replacement. He's been too much of a Trump defender. They would have to pick someone like Jeb. But Trump would never go for that. It would have to be someone like Cotton, Desantis or Scott. Not sure they would go for that with such little time.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)He'd be president already at that point, and shifting away from him wouldn't make anything less crazy.
He inspires no one, which is a good thing.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)My thought is that he'll stay president until the election. A Pence candidacy would be a disaster.
malaise
(268,980 posts)Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
budkin
(6,703 posts)He wants nothing more than to win.
Toorich
(391 posts)... I would advise him to wait until November 4, 2020. If he wins - he's golden!
If he loses, he tells Pence, "How'd you like to be the 46th pResident? I can
make it happen. All I need is a full Federal pardon, post-dated and effective immediately upon my Resignation,
naming me, my daughter, and my sons. You can have Jared for the fall guy. I'll handle the various States' cases just
like always. If you want to be on the safe side I'll issue a Pardon for you one minute before I resign for health reasons.
Jared can take the rap for the Middle East, Turkey, Ukraine, Covid, and anything else you want to pin on him!"
Both Pardons would be like Tricky Dick's - Full and complete pardon for all offenses known and unknown.