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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:41 PM Jul 2020

I do not care what any one says. It's bullshit telling me to go back to work in this mess. Every one

wear a mask and good luck. I want unemployment extend and here is why. Sue the govt's ass like Trump always does, I think we have a cases.

Experts, Progressive states, Doctors, Scientists all knew we should wait until middle of June, probably end of June. Then open.

Trump started pushing in middle May and the protest and Gov and red states started rushing opening and all the self righteous of the right, can't breathe, Mother day weekend, Memorial Day, Trump mocking reporters that wore them and telling them to take off, going into business without wearing when it was rule for everyone to wear.

Trump and the Republicans created this.

And they are telling me to go out and earn a paycheck of 1300 a month.

While making mask wearing as hard as possible, the only thing that will help me.

No.

They created this, literally. They cannot make me walk into this spike. And they owe me with their greed and stupidity and ineptness. When they start smartening up, being responsible, then I will consider going out and about and back to work. Unemployment end the end of July. It needs to be extended until we see the Govt actually doing what we all know it needs to do to protect us, creating a safer working environment. Just like, the military should just sit down and do nothing, watching and waiting for trump to finally address Putin assassination money that he said nothing about because supposedly he did not know. Now he does. Still waiting Trump. And nothing. Almost a week 5 days), and Trump has said nothing to Putin, done nothing to Putin, does not even care about a bounty on military.

We should have a nationwide sit in the month of Aug, watch the money flow stop. And we all know how to do it, having done it in April, part of May. Really that is all, wasn't very long. Because it was well into March before most started. By middle May people were going nuts.

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I do not care what any one says. It's bullshit telling me to go back to work in this mess. Every one (Original Post) LizBeth Jul 2020 OP
My job started up 2 weeks ago. milestogo Jul 2020 #1
My bosses like me, lots. And seem to get it. They asked me to come back last week, it is an hotel. LizBeth Jul 2020 #4
No way I'm going back right now. revmclaren Jul 2020 #2
Exactly. It was not this bad in mid March and I told bosses I wanted some time out to see what was LizBeth Jul 2020 #6
SHUT UP AND DIE FOR CAPITALISM! It's the 'Murican way! BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #3
Exactly. No. Lol, and you can't make me. LizBeth Jul 2020 #7
Exactly. nt iluvtennis Jul 2020 #36
Virus JUST GETTING STARTED, so no, do NOT go back to work but GOP WANTS the virus Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #5
You are correct I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #38
Bannon and putin ordered the end of America and it is happening Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #39
I'm so glad I'm retired & don't have to choose between eating & paying my bills or getting COVID. CrispyQ Jul 2020 #8
Ya. Right. I am glad I have some cash on hand that was going to be used after I retired at 70 cause LizBeth Jul 2020 #10
It's more important to HAVE a later than to have IT later if you aren't around. rzemanfl Jul 2020 #24
Right? How stupid would I feel if I go into huge debt or die, because of 5k. Almost 5 months of not LizBeth Jul 2020 #26
As long as people are available to work the fields, the trucks, the fuel industry, the stores, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2020 #14
I know. CrispyQ Jul 2020 #19
THIS!!! we, too. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2020 #28
Can't we all just agree to lock ourselves in for a few weeks soothsayer Jul 2020 #9
I think we are good enough but that it will take a solid two months and then masks an absolute LizBeth Jul 2020 #11
Right, is that too much to ask? Seems easier than dragging it on forever soothsayer Jul 2020 #12
I do not remember who but he shouted out, tell everyone to go him, shut it all down until end of LizBeth Jul 2020 #15
What we really needed to do with this time people were outside, is implementing a lifestyle living LizBeth Jul 2020 #13
Grasshopper fiddles while the ants store up for winter ha soothsayer Jul 2020 #16
That is the reason the sunbelt is getting killed in summer. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #18
There is a thought. I have people go on about summer and getting out. It was hot were I lived. LizBeth Jul 2020 #20
From what I've read the virus mainly spreads by extended indoor contact. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #21
Interesting and agree. Indoors, more time sitting in it and heavier load of virus. I am sending out LizBeth Jul 2020 #22
The wife is in retail. But at 3 levels removed from customers. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #23
For those still working MoonlitKnight Jul 2020 #17
I am very lucky. chriscan64 Jul 2020 #25
Right. It is bad there. I watched a pretty long video. Having to hunt for beds elsewhere. LizBeth Jul 2020 #27
Exact same thing here. I'm off for a month now though. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #29
They'd have to drag me out of my home! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #30
+1 LizBeth Jul 2020 #32
Maybe I shouldn't say this .... but jb5150 Jul 2020 #31
Right. LizBeth Jul 2020 #33
I'm glad I'm retired - I would NOT go back to work until everything was really safe... George II Jul 2020 #34
Hold out as long as you can LizBeth. brer cat Jul 2020 #35
Thank you brer cat, I agree. LizBeth Jul 2020 #37
It's not merely bullshit malaise Jul 2020 #40
I think so too. Thank you for calling it. LizBeth Jul 2020 #41

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
1. My job started up 2 weeks ago.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:46 PM
Jul 2020

I have a 4 day weekend for the holiday, and I'm barely going out.

I feel fairly safe at my job, because people are wearing masks and socially distancing. BUT the numbers in my county are going up. They are higher then when this started in March.

The unemployment extra of $600 week ends in July. So nobody is going to stay home unless they have a job that allows them to. And many people do not.

Protect your life, LizBeth. Do the right thing.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. My bosses like me, lots. And seem to get it. They asked me to come back last week, it is an hotel.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jul 2020

I love the job, I love the bosses and I do a really good job. But they get 60 yr old working in a small nonventilated room for over 8 hours with 50-100 or more being in a small space isn't really smart.

So yea me. I told them I thought about it but with numbers spiking it would be stupid. And this week proved it out. You are right. Many of us are going to say no. Because it will be stupid to walk back in that. And it is going to hurt a lot of people. The Republicans literally created this for all of us to live. They literally created this unsafe work environment.

revmclaren

(2,500 posts)
2. No way I'm going back right now.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jul 2020

I worked for a major retailer until mid March and I was exposed to hundreds of customers a day.

At the moment I am trying to find work from home and have a few online projects in the works.

Be safe everyone. Masks, wash, distance, repeat.

☮️

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. Exactly. It was not this bad in mid March and I told bosses I wanted some time out to see what was
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

going to happen, before people started staying home. I was willing to absorb the loss pay. But ya. Retail, 60, no way.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
5. Virus JUST GETTING STARTED, so no, do NOT go back to work but GOP WANTS the virus
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

to WIPE out people because they are traitors.

GOP will intentionally NOT allow you to have stimulus so you can choose to live but starve or work and die.

THAT IS what they are doing ON PURPOSE!

I wish everyone could get that thru their thick heads, cons included, and go to the streets one day, 100 million of us and send the message, help us

or else.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
38. You are correct
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jul 2020

It's on purpose.

Disaster and predatory capitalism.

Time for people to stop playing capitalism with each other's lives.

Oh and fuck the rich and the right.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
39. Bannon and putin ordered the end of America and it is happening
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jul 2020

I dont want to be a bummer but there will be no election and if there is the results wont matter (dont yell at me, I want to be wrong, believe me)


I just wanna live long enough to be part of the group that REACTS the only way left there will be...but they might kill me first.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
8. I'm so glad I'm retired & don't have to choose between eating & paying my bills or getting COVID.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jul 2020

So much is going to change after this. We can think of obvious ways, now, but so much more will change than we imagine right now.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
10. Ya. Right. I am glad I have some cash on hand that was going to be used after I retired at 70 cause
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jul 2020

I am poor, lol. I am feeling kinda lucky that even if I do not get extended unemployment, I can easily make it until Dec. If I must, I could go longer, just means I will not have it later when I will need it too.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
26. Right? How stupid would I feel if I go into huge debt or die, because of 5k. Almost 5 months of not
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jul 2020

working.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,325 posts)
14. As long as people are available to work the fields, the trucks, the fuel industry, the stores, ...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jul 2020

... then we can eat.

As a retiree, I know a lot of people have to work, just so I can eat, cook, and run the heat or air conditioner.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
19. I know.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jul 2020

And my gratitude knows no end.

I used to marvel at the timing of my life, how I hit the human LOTTO in terms of when & where I was born—boomer, USA. Civil rights, women's rights, a social safety net. But as this virus plays out, I realize I won bigger than I originally thought I had. I retired last year. If this virus had hit even ten years ago, I would be one facing issues without a paycheck. I tip all my shoppers & delivery people well. I know this doesn't make up for the impact this virus is going to have on their lives, though.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
9. Can't we all just agree to lock ourselves in for a few weeks
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jul 2020

And not give the virus anywhere to spread?

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
11. I think we are good enough but that it will take a solid two months and then masks an absolute
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jul 2020

when out of house. We know enough and are capable enough, I think maybe a month and an half, if we are lucky and that good.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
15. I do not remember who but he shouted out, tell everyone to go him, shut it all down until end of
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jul 2020

year and give everyone 2000 a month.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
13. What we really needed to do with this time people were outside, is implementing a lifestyle living
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jul 2020

with this virus. So when we walk into winter and start shutting things up, we know what we are doing and have tightest ability to control. We didn't do that. Too smart, and thinking ahead. Republicans chose to go play. The little ants that do not do the work. Democrats do that. Or is it a grasshopper that plays, lol. I do not remember.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
16. Grasshopper fiddles while the ants store up for winter ha
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jul 2020

Seriously, if you don’t let it spread, it dies. Seems easy enough.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. That is the reason the sunbelt is getting killed in summer.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jul 2020

We go outside in the autumn, winter and early spring. Once May hit here in Florida most people probably don’t spend 30 minutes a day outside the AC. Everyone is crammed in together now spreading it like crazy.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
20. There is a thought. I have people go on about summer and getting out. It was hot were I lived.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jul 2020

I stayed closed up more in summer, than any other season.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. From what I've read the virus mainly spreads by extended indoor contact.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

I feel way safer outside in the sun and breeze.

I’m still furloughed from work. The wife got called back last week. I worry about her because she is indoors most of the time. Our Company is doing a bang up job on keeping us safe. But all the precautions we take just limit the chance of spread it. Not eliminate. My job is mainly outside so I feel safer at work than at the grocery with everyone wearing a mask. Not that everyone does.

I would expect our rates in Florida to keep going up, although the bars are closed again so that will help.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
22. Interesting and agree. Indoors, more time sitting in it and heavier load of virus. I am sending out
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jul 2020

apps to places that I know it will be less load with less people. I am just in a real customer service, in your face business.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
25. I am very lucky.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jul 2020

I was able to work from home just outside San Antonio during April and May. My Trump loving bosses had me come back in a month ago. The attitude that the thing was over was palpable. Now, the situation locally is worse than at any time during our limited shutdown. I am still equipped to work from home and I am going to let them know that I won't be coming into the shop.

onecaliberal

(32,786 posts)
29. Exact same thing here. I'm off for a month now though.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:54 PM
Jul 2020

I worked all month. Locked myself in an office with the door closed and allowed no one in.

jb5150

(1,177 posts)
31. Maybe I shouldn't say this .... but
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:01 PM
Jul 2020

.. in the last week, someone from where I worked (before I got laid off) called ... I didn't pick it up, and they didn't leave a message ... and no, I'm not calling them back either. I live in Central Florida, and I'm a 58 year old male with early stage COPD .. to say I'm worried would be an understatement.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
33. Right.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jul 2020

I didn't answer the call either, but you know what I did. I thought I was texting another Lauren and was really texting the boss. Told them I thought my job phased out and I would have to find a job elsewhere. When I realized what I did, I had to call them up. They wanted to make sure I was not hunting anther job and told me I could come back full time. I told them.... No. Lol. He was all excited he had the indoor pool open and tons of people using. NO! Can you imagine?

Lol, 58 here too.

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. I'm glad I'm retired - I would NOT go back to work until everything was really safe...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jul 2020

We've had meetings in town, a Commission that I'm on and our Democratic Committee. The Commission has had two Zoom meetings, which work out great. Our last Democratic Committee was live in a park - told them I would not attend. It's crazy.

I don't want to do anything in a group at least until September, maybe even later (like the end of the year).

brer cat

(24,525 posts)
35. Hold out as long as you can LizBeth.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:26 PM
Jul 2020

We all need to keep the pressure on Congress to extend unemployment benefits until they come up with a way to make work places safer. There was never a republican plan to deal with the pandemic and they still have their heads up their asses so there never will be a plan. First, take care of yourself.

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