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Like somebody said on Twitter, grumpyduck Jul 2020 #1
I also read they would put traffic cones over the cannisters n/t Bev54 Jul 2020 #29
Good idea. Seems other things may work as well. triron Jul 2020 #66
Seems like old blankets would work as well. Captain Zero Jul 2020 #68
+1000 bluewater Jul 2020 #63
Yes! soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
Good for them! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #3
Yup. And a guy had a hockey stick to hit the gas canisters away from protesters. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #4
I think they are using the Hong Kong tactic. LiberalArkie Jul 2020 #5
I did not see this before posting my comment. Mme. Defarge Jul 2020 #9
Protesters in Hong Kong were doing that. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #6
Good! We all need to learn from each other. These are desperate days. nt Maru Kitteh Jul 2020 #53
If I owned a leaf blower I would lend it to the cause! Mme. Defarge Jul 2020 #7
Do I still have to get a passport and rent a VW Microbus to visit. plimsoll Jul 2020 #26
No, a Subaru klook Jul 2020 #35
I'd be willing to contribute to a GoFundMe SoCalNative Jul 2020 #8
Me too. triron Jul 2020 #10
YES!! I saw that suggested a few days ago and thought "Brilliant!" nolabear Jul 2020 #11
How long before blowers become illegal Fullduplexxx Jul 2020 #12
Nah, the gestapo will just Bettie Jul 2020 #15
AWESOME! bluestarone Jul 2020 #13
Good for them... stillcool Jul 2020 #14
This makes my day! Hekate Jul 2020 #16
Hand salute, protesters. sarge43 Jul 2020 #17
Leaf blowers and hockey sticks on video.... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #18
PDX Dads!!! Nevilledog Jul 2020 #19
Bravo Portlanders! triron Jul 2020 #21
The antifa leaf blower violence against the gas is too unbearable. Free citizens must be stopped. ffr Jul 2020 #40
They better watch out - Trump will send in Weed Eaters! KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #43
The AntLifa Blower...someone needs to copyright this Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #46
You got dibs. ffr Jul 2020 #56
"This machine kills fascists" DBoon Jul 2020 #54
Thanks! Is that Woody? KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #55
Yes, it is Woody DBoon Jul 2020 #78
That's a brilliant idea and would be so symbolic of Portland. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #79
Origin? triron Jul 2020 #81
Google images? DBoon Jul 2020 #82
Not familiar. triron Jul 2020 #83
Excellent! n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #20
Brilliant! berni_mccoy Jul 2020 #22
So proud of people in my city. And so glad this is getting national attention. flibbitygiblets Jul 2020 #23
It is excellent. Resist! JudyM Jul 2020 #24
Portland and Seattle greenies are major Beringia Jul 2020 #25
Finally! Leaf blowers are useful for something! Initech Jul 2020 #27
Getting Clear on What is Happening at the Nightly Confrontations McKim Jul 2020 #28
It's trumps border patrol. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #38
Thanks for sharing. We need to hear your prospective and that of other Portlanders. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #44
google "Little Beirut" Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #51
Got it. There's a lot to learn. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #57
"Willamette Weekly" is good also. soldierant Jul 2020 #72
Thank you, it's excellent! KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #74
Very creative of them and the police and feds will have a difficult time claiming leaf blowers cstanleytech Jul 2020 #30
Oh, I love that! warmfeet Jul 2020 #31
Same here 47of74 Jul 2020 #37
Hong Kong Lessons Gilbert Moore Jul 2020 #32
Shitler wants to put that "uppity" mayor in her place. OMGWTF Jul 2020 #41
I love my leaf blower Rorey Jul 2020 #33
Be sure to search for "Gestapo" on Google, YouTube, and Twitter bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #34
omg that's so rich!! yuiyoshida Jul 2020 #36
It would only take identifying and shaming one of tRump's gestapo crew ffr Jul 2020 #39
Awesome! This is good info for the people in Chicago too FakeNoose Jul 2020 #42
Leaf blowers. Hockey sticks. Pah! So lightweight. Wednesdays Jul 2020 #45
Here's Bugs Bunny using a leaf blower of sorts. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2020 #47
Today's well-prepared American protesters wnylib Jul 2020 #48
For a second there, I thought I would have to get a bigger purse. Thank goodness niyad Jul 2020 #62
You need a Hermione Granger purse wnylib Jul 2020 #64
You are absolutely correct. It would certainly make things much simpler niyad Jul 2020 #67
what is that? triron Jul 2020 #69
What is what? wnylib Jul 2020 #75
Rachel interviewed the Oregon AG tonite. triron Jul 2020 #49
knr triron Jul 2020 #50
Farking brilliant! Maru Kitteh Jul 2020 #52
This idea comes from Hong Kong JonLP24 Jul 2020 #58
Portland, irisblue Jul 2020 #59
Love, love, love this! love_katz Jul 2020 #60
Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Texin Jul 2020 #61
He wants cities to be TERRORIZED, not ENTERTAINED! Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #65
knr triron Jul 2020 #70
kick again triron Jul 2020 #71
Germans, In WW1, Learned This Lesson ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #73
Thanks for the history lesson. triron Jul 2020 #76
One More Note ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #77
I love what I'm seeing from Portlandians ecstatic Jul 2020 #80

grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
1. Like somebody said on Twitter,
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jul 2020

the American spirit at work.

Bev54

(13,229 posts)
29. I also read they would put traffic cones over the cannisters n/t
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
66. Good idea. Seems other things may work as well.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jul 2020

Captain Zero

(8,756 posts)
68. Seems like old blankets would work as well.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

nt

bluewater

(5,420 posts)
63. +1000
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jul 2020

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
2. Yes!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jul 2020

Thekaspervote

(35,815 posts)
3. Good for them!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jul 2020

Nevilledog

(54,714 posts)
4. Yup. And a guy had a hockey stick to hit the gas canisters away from protesters.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jul 2020

LiberalArkie

(19,344 posts)
5. I think they are using the Hong Kong tactic.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jul 2020

Mme. Defarge

(8,901 posts)
9. I did not see this before posting my comment.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jul 2020

2naSalit

(100,202 posts)
6. Protesters in Hong Kong were doing that.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:47 PM
Jul 2020

Maru Kitteh

(31,290 posts)
53. Good! We all need to learn from each other. These are desperate days. nt
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jul 2020

Mme. Defarge

(8,901 posts)
7. If I owned a leaf blower I would lend it to the cause!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:48 PM
Jul 2020

This makes me proud to be an American and a Portlander!!!

KEEP PORTLAND WEIRD.

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
26. Do I still have to get a passport and rent a VW Microbus to visit.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jul 2020

I don't want to be breaking the law.

klook

(13,508 posts)
35. No, a Subaru
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jul 2020

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
8. I'd be willing to contribute to a GoFundMe
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jul 2020

to buy them rocket launchers to use

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
10. Me too.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Jul 2020

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
11. YES!! I saw that suggested a few days ago and thought "Brilliant!"
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jul 2020

What a great, creative solution!

Fullduplexxx

(8,605 posts)
12. How long before blowers become illegal
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jul 2020

Bettie

(19,317 posts)
15. Nah, the gestapo will just
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jul 2020

say "It looked like a gun, I was afraid, so they're dead".

bluestarone

(21,287 posts)
13. AWESOME!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jul 2020

I fully support these protesters against these Gestapos!!!!!!!

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
14. Good for them...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:01 PM
Jul 2020

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
16. This makes my day!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jul 2020

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
17. Hand salute, protesters.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jul 2020

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
18. Leaf blowers and hockey sticks on video....
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jul 2020

(second video, below)



Text:
Erica Lynn @SurfingBlue2020

Protesters in Portland are using leaf blowers to blow the tear gas cans back at the gestapo.

3:15 AM · Jul 20, 2020



Leaf blower graphic....



KY........

Nevilledog

(54,714 posts)
19. PDX Dads!!!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:06 PM
Jul 2020
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
21. Bravo Portlanders!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jul 2020

ffr

(23,329 posts)
40. The antifa leaf blower violence against the gas is too unbearable. Free citizens must be stopped.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jul 2020

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
43. They better watch out - Trump will send in Weed Eaters!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jul 2020

KY.........

Ferrets are Cool

(22,541 posts)
46. The AntLifa Blower...someone needs to copyright this
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jul 2020

ffr

(23,329 posts)
56. You got dibs.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:35 AM
Jul 2020

DBoon

(24,766 posts)
54. "This machine kills fascists"
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jul 2020

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
55. Thanks! Is that Woody?
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jul 2020

I noticed the Portland protesters have music performed regularly along with lots of food in the park.

KY

DBoon

(24,766 posts)
78. Yes, it is Woody
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:42 PM
Jul 2020

Someone should Photoshop this so he is carrying a leaf blower with the same slogan on it

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
79. That's a brilliant idea and would be so symbolic of Portland.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jul 2020

KY

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
81. Origin?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jul 2020

DBoon

(24,766 posts)
82. Google images?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jul 2020
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
83. Not familiar.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:23 PM
Jul 2020

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
20. Excellent! n/t
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jul 2020


-Laelth
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
22. Brilliant!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:22 PM
Jul 2020

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
23. So proud of people in my city. And so glad this is getting national attention.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

JudyM

(29,572 posts)
24. It is excellent. Resist!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jul 2020

Beringia

(5,367 posts)
25. Portland and Seattle greenies are major
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jul 2020

Initech

(107,576 posts)
27. Finally! Leaf blowers are useful for something!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jul 2020

McKim

(2,426 posts)
28. Getting Clear on What is Happening at the Nightly Confrontations
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jul 2020

As a third generation Portlander who loves her city and who supports BLM and the reconstruction of our police force, I have to ask what we should call these nightly confrontations. Are they anti Trump Administration Fascism or pro BLM or both? Many respected long time Black leaders And clergy have called for an end to violence, saying it is not helping their cause. Our notorious police force needs to be completely reconstructed. What it looks like to me is that now that the Trump Guardia Civil are here, the confrontations are about that: Portland vs. the unlawful use of Border Patrol on the streets of our city. I support this! The nation is watching to see if we will tolerate this fascist more by Trump. We must hold the line for the whole country’s sake.I am proud of the Moms! We should keep up the creative non violence which shows these thugs for who they are and who they represent unlawfully.

Also I worry about the long term economic consequences of this street fighting on our city center.
We have worked long and hard to make it a great and interesting city by good planning, event planning, activity planning and its a great downtown. But it is a downtown that has struggled and is struggling even more with the lack of tourism and a bad rap about our large homeless population. We finally passed a huge levy to help the homeless and things are going to get better, but now COVID and the 52 days of rage are hurting our city. I do not mean that BLM is trivial or to be shunted aside. Indeed we as a city and a state are making rapid progress on ensuring that Black Lives Do Matter! Every time I go downtown to see what is happening I shop or buy a take out dinner to support downtown. The boarded up windows make me sad. I photograph the wonderful murals that are there and I see the empty buildings. I can’t go to demonstrations for health reasons but I donate to BLM causes and the ACLU to bring unlawful actors to heel. I just wanted to share my anguish about the city I love.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,063 posts)
38. It's trumps border patrol.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jul 2020

I was listening to your mayor. Portland PD are working to de-escalate, and it was working. 45 send his BP goons and it all went to poop.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
44. Thanks for sharing. We need to hear your prospective and that of other Portlanders.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jul 2020

Few of us here understand all the storied history behind the Portland movement and every piece of input helps.

I've been searching for sites explaining some of that history and hope to share that as I find it. I found a neat source last night in the Portland Mercury paper and there's much to learn.


KY..........

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
51. google "Little Beirut"
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jul 2020

Portland's nickname for oh, about sixty years now.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
57. Got it. There's a lot to learn.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:27 AM
Jul 2020

When I first read your post, I assumed it meant there's a heavy Lebanese presence in Portland.....

But then I found this...

The nickname "Little Beirut" has stuck to Portland since it was first coined by the staff of former President Bush after violent protests during his visits to Oregon in the early 1990s, and the reputation remains strong.....


From: https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20030819&slug=protests19e

From Wikipedia's entry on Portland, I see there's quite a history of racism there with the business and political classes but mixed with a strong liberal presence.

KY

soldierant

(9,290 posts)
72. "Willamette Weekly" is good also.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

nt

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
74. Thank you, it's excellent!
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jul 2020

KY..........

cstanleytech

(28,245 posts)
30. Very creative of them and the police and feds will have a difficult time claiming leaf blowers
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jul 2020

are weapons.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
31. Oh, I love that!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jul 2020

Fuck the gestapo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like the fucking pathetic nazis, tiny penis bois, they will rue the day they fuck with us.

I may have violated some rules here with my choice of language. Oh well!

I hate nazis and I don't care who knows it.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
37. Same here
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jul 2020

I don't care who the fuck knows I hate Nazis. The originals. Illinois ones. Iowa ones. And Fuckmuppet's brown shirt wearing piece of shit fucksticks.

Anyone who doesn't like my attitude you won't hurt my feelings if you just put me on ignore here on out.

Gilbert Moore

(220 posts)
32. Hong Kong Lessons
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

A good review of some of the video out of Hong Kong would be interesting. They used tennis racquets, pot holder mittens, umbrellas, laser pointers and roofing nails/tacks in their defensive plan.

The arrival of 150 agents in Chicago will be interesting as I wonder if the Windy City Po-Po will welcome or hinder the Feds.

OMGWTF

(5,018 posts)
41. Shitler wants to put that "uppity" mayor in her place.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jul 2020

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
33. I love my leaf blower
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jul 2020

I didn't even imagine using it in self defense.

Perhaps I should buy a stronger one.

bucolic_frolic

(54,141 posts)
34. Be sure to search for "Gestapo" on Google, YouTube, and Twitter
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:44 PM
Jul 2020

Make them trend to show Americans are concerned!

yuiyoshida

(44,981 posts)
36. omg that's so rich!!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:08 PM
Jul 2020

ffr

(23,329 posts)
39. It would only take identifying and shaming one of tRump's gestapo crew
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jul 2020

to put names to these constitution breaking goons.

No we will not comply to your orders because you have no authority.

FakeNoose

(40,307 posts)
42. Awesome! This is good info for the people in Chicago too
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jul 2020

The Orange Gestapo is already planning their next excursion to Chicagoland. They should be there by the weekend according to Chump. Stock up on leafblowers, and have a few hockey sticks handy.


Wednesdays

(21,653 posts)
45. Leaf blowers. Hockey sticks. Pah! So lightweight.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jul 2020

Use a trebuchet and send 'em flying 500 yards!

DinahMoeHum

(23,388 posts)
47. Here's Bugs Bunny using a leaf blower of sorts. . .
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jul 2020

. . .it's what this news make me think of.






#newrostrong

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
48. Today's well-prepared American protesters
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jul 2020

need to arrive on the scene with the following equipment:

Mask against coronavirus

Helmet (bike helmet would do) against gestapo bullets

Goggles or wraparound eyeglasses against tear gas

Umbrella which could double as instrument to block tear gas when fully open, or to push cannisters away when closed.

Hockey stick to knock cannisters away

Leaf blower to blow gas back at the gestapo

A sign, of course, to say what you are protesting

Phone to take videos and stills to post

Ingenuity and courage.

Good job, Portland. The rest of America is watching. Getting ready for our turn. The world is watching, too.

niyad

(129,793 posts)
62. For a second there, I thought I would have to get a bigger purse. Thank goodness
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jul 2020

they will all fit.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
64. You need a Hermione Granger purse
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jul 2020

like the one in Deathly Hallows.

I typed this before reading a twiiter link about Portland in another thread. Several tweets there suggested that people bring similar items with them.

Gotta protect youself from the Amerikan Gestapo.

niyad

(129,793 posts)
67. You are absolutely correct. It would certainly make things much simpler
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jul 2020
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
69. what is that?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jul 2020

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
75. What is what?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jul 2020
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
49. Rachel interviewed the Oregon AG tonite.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:18 PM
Jul 2020
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
50. knr
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jul 2020

Maru Kitteh

(31,290 posts)
52. Farking brilliant!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jul 2020

JonLP24

(29,863 posts)
58. This idea comes from Hong Kong
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:33 AM
Jul 2020

irisblue

(36,888 posts)
59. Portland,
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:49 AM
Jul 2020

love_katz

(3,205 posts)
60. Love, love, love this!
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:13 AM
Jul 2020

Texin

(2,834 posts)
61. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:16 AM
Jul 2020

These mercenaries - and I really do believe they're paid goons in the guise of Dept. of Homeland *Security* enforcement, but I truly think that they are quite likely Eric Prince's employees who Barr as contracted with.

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
65. He wants cities to be TERRORIZED, not ENTERTAINED!
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jul 2020

This is some fine kind of Art of War Portlanders are using!
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
70. knr
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jul 2020
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
71. kick again
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jul 2020

ProfessorGAC

(75,888 posts)
73. Germans, In WW1, Learned This Lesson
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jul 2020

The second time they used gas, they fired shells into the wind.
The cloud blew back at them, and more German soldiers got incapacitated than British or French.
These protestors are just controlling the wind.
Good idea!

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
76. Thanks for the history lesson.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jul 2020

ProfessorGAC

(75,888 posts)
77. One More Note
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jul 2020

That event was the reason why both sides switched from chlorine gas to mustard gas (bis(2-chloroethyl) sulfide) & phosgene (COCl2).
These have lower vapor pressure, hydrogen bond to water vapor, so the hang in place and are less susceptible to rapid movement by wind.
They're all really toxic but, as someone who has used phosgene & chlorine as reactants, it's much safer to work with the former. Still in a hood, wearing PPE, including clearing the lab just to carry it through the room. But, easier & safer to work with.
My interest in this whole WW1 thing came from actually working with these dangerous compounds.
Man, what were they thinking?

ecstatic

(35,013 posts)
80. I love what I'm seeing from Portlandians
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jul 2020

I don't think I'll ever get over Naked Athena and her impromptu bodyguards (especially the guy with the shield!!).

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