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FM123

(10,054 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:37 PM Jul 2020

This guy is trying to muddy things up and make Biden look bad!

Just came across this article in Politico, wanted to share with you on DU, I am angry typing so forgive my lack of a good summary of this article, it is so long. Just some snips here, sorry...

(Politico) Delaware Beer Distributor: I Wore a Wire to Probe Biden’s Fundraising

Christopher Tigani was a wealthy beer distributor who relished his close ties to Delaware politicians, particularly Joe Biden, when the FBI confronted him outside a Royal Farms gas station in September 2010.

Tigani was in trouble. While serving as a bundler for Biden’s aborted 2008 presidential campaign, he had reimbursed his employees for contributions made in their names, a well-worn tactic for circumventing campaign-finance laws.

What happened between that day and Tigani’s 2012 sentencing has never before been revealed: He would wear a wire for the FBI and record people close to the then-vice president, seeking, he said, to confirm his belief that they knew of his reimbursements and investigate whether they, or others close to Biden, engaged in any quid pro quo deals with donors.

Over several months in 2011, Tigani said, his handlers used him to try to elicit cooperation from others closer to the then-vice president and even discussed trying to get him in front of Biden himself while wearing a wire. Tigani said he recorded conversations with former Biden finance chief Dennis Toner as well as a businessman close to Biden and a Biden aide-turned-lobbyist. He said he also sought to develop evidence against other players in Delaware politics.

Ultimately, only Tigani himself faced federal charges.

In interviews with POLITICO, Tigani, now 49, agreed to share the details of his informant work for the first time, in part, he said, because he felt he was left out to dry by the Bidens when revelations about his illegal fundraising for both Joe and son Beau, along with other top officials, placed him at the center of a Delaware political scandal a decade ago.

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Tigani has kept a low profile since leaving prison, and he said he wanted to make clear he was not seeking publicity. A POLITICO reporter reached out to him over Facebook messenger in August 2019 to request an interview for an article published later that month. Tigani, who said he rarely logs on to Facebook, did not respond to the message until eight months later, and he agreed to a phone call about the Delaware political scene. On the call, he described his informant work off the record, and several weeks later he agreed to go on the record.

Tigani said he wanted to tell his story in part to highlight its redemptive aspects, especially the fact that he used his time in prison to learn the law, and that since his release he has been representing himself in the ongoing legal battle over control of his family business, going toe-to-toe with high-paid lawyers without the benefit of any formal legal education.

Tigani, who has expressed support for Trump on social media, said he also wanted to tell his story because he felt the Bidens had abandoned him, calling them “fair weather friends.” For the first time, he said, he will not be voting for Biden in November.

He said he also wanted to share his side of the story in full because he felt unfairly scapegoated by media coverage and prosecutors for participating in a political culture that was widespread in Delaware. He said he is irked by the feeling that politicians benefit from an ability to maintain plausible deniability while others take the fall for law-breaking.

"Nothing ever happens to them because why would it?” he said. “Why would they admit that they knew what was going on when they can deny it and nobody can prove it otherwise?"


REad More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/21/christopher-tigani-joe-biden-fundraising-373724


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This guy is trying to muddy things up and make Biden look bad! (Original Post) FM123 Jul 2020 OP
Why should I believe a convicted criminal Sanity Claws Jul 2020 #1
Good for him! PJMcK Jul 2020 #2
Says all I need to know - Criminal, Trump supporter. woodsprite Jul 2020 #3
Yep, from a Delawarean Walleye Jul 2020 #7
Tigani is a common crook. Nobody's going to change their vote over this Walleye Jul 2020 #4
Typical of politico to publish a shady story from a convicted felon just to stir the pot Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #5
Well, since this all came up between 2010 and 2012... regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #10
I posted because I was upset to see this in Politico. FM123 Jul 2020 #11
opinion, take with a grain of salt saidsimplesimon Jul 2020 #6
K & R Budi Jul 2020 #13
Oh, look blogslut Jul 2020 #8
The Bidens are fair weather friends, bunky? gratuitous Jul 2020 #9
How'd that Tara Reade story turn out? Budi Jul 2020 #12
Sour grapes tRump tRash needs to take a hike Mersky Jul 2020 #14
It was an extremely long and repetative article that I read very carefully. SharonClark Jul 2020 #15
Perfect summary! FM123 Jul 2020 #17
This is the best they can come up with? BGBD Jul 2020 #16

Sanity Claws

(21,857 posts)
1. Why should I believe a convicted criminal
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jul 2020

who wants to claim that others do the same thing?
The Tamara shit didn't stick. Neither will this.

PJMcK

(22,053 posts)
2. Good for him!
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jul 2020

Let's see what ya got, Tigani!

Bring out into the daylight. Let's see what you claim and see your evidence.

What's that? You're reconsidering your claims?

What a shame.

Asshole.

That is the trajectory of this idiot's assertions.

woodsprite

(11,927 posts)
3. Says all I need to know - Criminal, Trump supporter.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jul 2020

Actually I think a good portion of DE knows this guy is an asshole, similar (but not identical) to the Capanos -- interested in what you can do for him.

Walleye

(31,062 posts)
4. Tigani is a common crook. Nobody's going to change their vote over this
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

We do have the goods on Individual 1 as far as campaign finance violations. Just hope the TV pundits don’t latch on to this for their bothsidesism Wait! Does this mean that Bush’s deep state FBI was spying on the Biden campaign?

Thekaspervote

(32,798 posts)
5. Typical of politico to publish a shady story from a convicted felon just to stir the pot
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

As has been pointed out innumerable times, in Biden’s vetting for Obama’s VP do ya not think if there were any truth in this that it would have come out??

Get a grip!!

Really ...why post this kind of stuff?!

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
10. Well, since this all came up between 2010 and 2012...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jul 2020

...it's unlikely to have played a part in a vetting that took place in 2008.

However, the facts of the case itself speak volumes: This guy was the only one the authorities found reason to charge, even though he tried to get dirt on others. And he's now against Biden, because Joe "abandoned" him (i.e. didn't step in to shield him from prison). No wonder he likes Trump, for whom justice doesn't matter when it comes to his associates.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
11. I posted because I was upset to see this in Politico.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jul 2020

While most of my reading comes from other places, I do read Politico from time to time and I was shocked to see this kind of story there, I always thought it was at the same level as sites like Talking Points Memo. I expect smears and lies from right wing nutjob sites, this one took me by surprise. I hope our Biden campaign can cut this off at the knees before it starts making it's way to Fux News.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
6. opinion, take with a grain of salt
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

I supported Mrs. Clinton in our last Presidential election.

Politico has been on my "watch list" since.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. The Bidens are fair weather friends, bunky?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jul 2020

Yeah, that can happen when you're doing criminal stuff and get caught. Particularly if your criminal conduct might get someone else in trouble with the law just for knowing you. I tend to cut people like that off before they can rope me into their crimes, too.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
14. Sour grapes tRump tRash needs to take a hike
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

His attempts to entrap Biden in order to save his own ass with the feds didn’t work, and now we’re supposed to believe he’s an honest dealer? I don’t think so, and I expect a better voice in reporting than this from Politico.

This sentence drives me bananas: “Ultimately, only Tigani himself faced charges.”

That’s a hinge over a cliff to the chasm of make your own assumptions as we bring up old sh*t that went nowhere to stir controversy during an election. At best, (and I’m being generous, here) it’s incomplete ‘reporting’ and is gross.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
15. It was an extremely long and repetative article that I read very carefully.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jul 2020

It was an ineffective attempt at a gotcha piece that shows Biden were investigated and did nothing wrong or illegal. It's shocking (not) that Politico gave this loser a platform to attack Biden over his hurt feelings because he got caught amd was found guilty. Tigani is just one step away from a blackmailer.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
17. Perfect summary!
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jul 2020

I found myself very upset upon reading it - the attempted smear against Joe, Politico stooping so low and the fear that the repugs would try to turn this into a thing - it really set me off, thank goodness I have DU to "talk to".

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
16. This is the best they can come up with?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jul 2020

An allegation of an investigation of a campaign finance violation 10 years ago in which nothing was found, by a guy who has been supporting the opponent..... That's pretty weak.

Hell, even if there had been a violation it would have been a fine.

Like Obama and Biden actually needed the few thousand bucks this guy would have been able to round up.

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