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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Police Lie. All the Time. Can Anything Stop Them?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.htmlChristopher Parham was grocery shopping for his boss when Henry Daverin, a plainclothes NYPD officer, approached him. Daverin accused Parham of driving recklessly on an illegal scooter without a helmet; a few minutes later, Parham was writhing in pain on the sidewalk outside. What happened during those few minutes was a matter of dispute. The NYPD said that Parham, a Black 19-year-old, had violently resisted arrest. Daverin and his colleagues said that they did not use force against him even though Parham had gruesome Taser burns all across his back.
Then surveillance video of the episode emergedand proved that nearly every detail of the NYPDs account was false. Parham had immediately cooperated with Daverin; he did not resist arrest. Nonetheless, Daverin and his colleagues had assaulted Parham, tackling him to the ground, then Tasing him over and over again. After Parhams attorneys released the videoand his local representatives raised concernsthe district attorney dropped all charges. Daverin, who had been named in at least 10 other misconduct lawsuits, was never disciplined, either for brutalizing Parham or for lying about it. Two years later, he remains on the force.
The police reaction to George Floyds murder, as well as the resulting nationwide protests, introduced many Americans to the fact that law enforcement officers lie. After officer Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd, the Minneapolis Police Department issued a statement falsely claiming that Floyd physically resisted officers and excluding the fact that Chauvin knelt on Floyds neck for nearly nine minutes. When Buffalo police officers violently shoved a peaceful 75-year-old man, their department falsely asserted that the victim tripped and fell during a skirmish involving protesters.
This tendency to lie pervades all police work, not just high-profile violence, and it has the power to ruin lives. Law enforcement officers lie so frequentlyin affidavits, on post-incident paperwork, on the witness standthat officers have coined a word for it: testilying. Judges and juries generally trust police officers, especially in the absence of footage disproving their testimony. As courts reopen and convene juries, many of the same officers now confronting protesters in the street will get back on the stand.
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Mariana
(14,860 posts)Most of the time, nothing is done.
I recommend prison time, let's say, one year for each lie. Something like that. In Mr. Parham's case, there were two cops who lied about this one encounter. They should be prosecuted for conspiracy as well.
Demovictory9
(32,472 posts)gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,619 posts)They need to completely change the incentive structure. It would also help if they would treat officer's perjury as a serious criminal offense, with mandatory, significant prison time. And get cops and prosecutors out of bed with each other.
It's insane that we basically have our law enforcement run by an unaccountable criminal gang and that the problem has been allowed to fester and worsen over DECADES, and that practically nobody from either party has done anything meaningful to try to address, or even acknowledged, the problem.
I guess this is what it's like to live in a shithole country.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)total detachment from our government. Capitalism and consumerism pretty much occupy people's hearts, minds and souls these days, with no time to care about law enforcement unless it involves a member of our family. Even then, it's almost impossible to challenge the system.
We have divorced ourselves from holding those working for our trusted institutions and assumed they are infallible. That applies to many institutions including churches, corporations and government functions such as law enforcement. An even better example is our system of jails and prisons where once people are locked up, inmates and the treatment they receive are forgotten (again, unless it's a member of our family).
I suspect the ultimate answer is to restructure most of these institutions crucial to our peaceful existence so that citizen involvement is required, not optional or based on need. I'm thinking review boards consisting of rotating groups of citizens and professionals that have the freedom to question everything and the authority to force changes as required, but in cooperation with the affected city, county or state boards and councils.
It should be practical to charge cops, preachers and corporate executives with malpractice just the same as lawyers and doctors.
However, such a idealistic system would be almost impossible to implement in our current atmosphere of political and social division.
KY rant done......
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Bottom line is that people need to care, to give a damn...they need empathy. There's a chemical for that.
DFW
(54,436 posts)I know a guy in Belgium who has been accused of financial crimes by a corrupt police unit there. They have made up stuff like accusing him of running a prostitution ring in Switzerland, counterfeiting money in Italy, and stashing money in Dubai (the guy is Jewish, fer Pete's sake!). A friend of his once called him from there and remarked that he was having coffee when two camels walked by. The cops, who were listening to his calls for years, accused him of meaning that he and his friend had arranged for some shady transaction involving two million euros (!!!).
What they do is systematically accuse people of stuff so ridiculous, it takes their victims years to even figure out what the real charges are, and then after 10 years (if the accused is still alive), the cops come and say, OK, what's it worth to you to make us go away? They do this systematically. I had lunch with the leader of the Belgian Senate (she was a Social Democrat) one time, and she knew all about it, but said Belgium's government was so fractured, they couldn't do anything to improve things.
The cops in Belgium don't kill you on the street (yet--they still value their EU membership), but certain units of them will beat you up and rob you blind if given the chance. The USA doesn't have a monopoly on corrupt cops by any means--we probably just win first prize for the most trigger-happy.
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