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AOC scorches NBC (Original Post) melman Aug 2020 OP
Lots of misinformed posts here as well being egged on by AOC haters nt liskddksil Aug 2020 #1
Like what? Don't just make an accusatory statement like that without Cha Aug 2020 #4
Lulzd. Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #5
Lulz. ehrnst Aug 2020 #8
I lulzd so hard I darn near peed my pants. Autumn Aug 2020 #27
Where to even begin. How about this gem: liskddksil Aug 2020 #37
"gee she coulda waited till the roll call was over" Mariana Aug 2020 #46
Yep, no pleasing them nt liskddksil Aug 2020 #49
Right on. Music Man Aug 2020 #35
Thanks for this important and useful post; elleng Aug 2020 #2
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #3
Pathetic NBC malaise Aug 2020 #6
+1 myohmy2 Aug 2020 #9
Good for her! I'm glad she called them out. ms liberty Aug 2020 #7
It's the type of thing that would classically fit into a disinformation campaign Tom Rinaldo Aug 2020 #10
Corporate McPravda Kid Berwyn Aug 2020 #11
Good Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #12
AOC is the future of the Democratic Party. rgbecker Aug 2020 #13
Who are the "others"? betsuni Aug 2020 #14
I'd like to know what all this "capitalist racist crap" is, too. Note - no specifics mentioned.... George II Aug 2020 #19
I think it used to be mocked as "identity politics" but now is useful betsuni Aug 2020 #22
+1 jcmaine72 Aug 2020 #16
I hope the media and social media Giants understand that it's stuff like this maxrandb Aug 2020 #15
"Scorches"? George II Aug 2020 #17
What was wrong with the original NBC tweet? NurseJackie Aug 2020 #28
Um, it had an incorrect word that was subsequently corrected. MAIN STREAM MEDIA SCANDAL!!!! George II Aug 2020 #30
Was the error that it was BS rather than the DNC who asked her to speak? N/T lapucelle Aug 2020 #44
Yes. Actually it wasn't really and "error", I'm sure Sanders requested that the DNC.... George II Aug 2020 #45
So her complaint to NBC was about the unethical tactic of misleading people lapucelle Aug 2020 #51
Scorches melman Aug 2020 #33
But some said she nominated Sanders, which is incorrect. George II Aug 2020 #34
The DNC calls it a nominating speech melman Aug 2020 #36
Did you watch the convention last night? The Permanent Chairman of the Convention.... George II Aug 2020 #38
You never answered why you had a post of mine, word-for-word including the typo, in your signature? George II Aug 2020 #48
She's got bdamomma Aug 2020 #18
I'll be booed for this tavernier Aug 2020 #20
+1 betsuni Aug 2020 #21
I agree Gothmog Aug 2020 #23
This. Thank you. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #31
I know. Others share your feelings. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #25
I'm sure her accomplishments will be many tavernier Aug 2020 #50
Bazinga! George II Aug 2020 #29
Please don't allow whatever antipathy you may feel for AOC distract you bullwinkle428 Aug 2020 #32
Ad hominem NurseJackie Aug 2020 #40
NBC made an error and subsequently corrected it. Period. PS - NBC doesn't get ratings from Twitter. George II Aug 2020 #41
I like AOC SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #47
The NBC associate producer or whoever posted that first Tweet needs to Liberal In Texas Aug 2020 #24
I would like to know who is responsible for the tweet by NBC. LiberalFighter Aug 2020 #26
As she should have ibegurpard Aug 2020 #39
A relatively minor error (which was corrected) is "criminally irresponsible"? George II Aug 2020 #42
I wonder why she didn't reveal the purpose of her appearance herself last week lapucelle Aug 2020 #43
 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
37. Where to even begin. How about this gem:
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:02 AM
Aug 2020

"gee she coulda waited till the roll call was over", in reference to one of her tweets. Or "Rep Ocasio-Cortez really demonstrated her lack of maturity in my opinion by making an issue of only being given a short period time to second a nomination".

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
46. "gee she coulda waited till the roll call was over"
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:13 AM
Aug 2020

If she had waited, I suspect the complaint would have been something like, "gee, why did she wait so long to endorse Joe?"

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
35. Right on.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:47 AM
Aug 2020

Lots of ignorance here last night.

"WHY DIDN'T SHE ENDORSE BIDEN!?!??! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! I'M SO PISSED AT HER!!! NOT A GOOD USE OF HER TIME!!!"

And on and on. Have people never followed elections before?

Response to melman (Original post)

ms liberty

(8,597 posts)
7. Good for her! I'm glad she called them out.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 06:46 AM
Aug 2020

And people who jumped on the attack AOC bandwagon should be ashamed of themselves. They won't, but they should.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
10. It's the type of thing that would classically fit into a disinformation campaign
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:50 AM
Aug 2020

It's the type of thing that would classically fit into a disinformation campaign that Putin would approve of. The sole purpose of the original NBC tweet, other than to attract revenue clicks, is to sow discord among Democrats, to create the impression of bitter divided where they do not exist and stinging slights that never happened. Good for AOC. I love that she never lets this type of crap go on without calling it out.

Kid Berwyn

(14,955 posts)
11. Corporate McPravda
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:05 AM
Aug 2020

No matter if they’re Joy Reid and Friends or Fox & Friends, the media always serve Capitalism’s Invisible Army.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
12. Good
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:14 AM
Aug 2020

They're looking for anything to sow division. The Democratic Party is united like never before, AOC and Sanders have given full throated endorsements of the candidate.

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
13. AOC is the future of the Democratic Party.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:20 AM
Aug 2020

She isn't putting up with all the Capitalist Racist Crap that others have let slide for years! Her support from young voters will only grow and she will be a leader in the party for years to come.

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. I'd like to know what all this "capitalist racist crap" is, too. Note - no specifics mentioned....
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:10 AM
Aug 2020

....in bashing Democrats.

maxrandb

(15,353 posts)
15. I hope the media and social media Giants understand that it's stuff like this
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:25 AM
Aug 2020

that is going to result in them being broken up into a billion little pieces.

Can't wait until the only thing folks like Zuckerberg have influence over is the typeface to use for the obituary page in some Dumbfuckistan Murika shithole local newspaper.

Seriously, alongside the Donnie Dollhands Crimes commission to investigate and prosecute Donnie Dipshit and his enablers, there needs to be a fucking sledgehammer taken to the media and social media.

Never again should so few have control of so many.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. What was wrong with the original NBC tweet?
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:27 AM
Aug 2020

I didn't see anything offensive or inflammatory or hateful or vitriolic about it. What am I overlooking? Why all the emotion?

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. Yes. Actually it wasn't really and "error", I'm sure Sanders requested that the DNC....
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:13 AM
Aug 2020

....ask her to second his nomination.

lapucelle

(18,319 posts)
51. So her complaint to NBC was about the unethical tactic of misleading people
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:53 AM
Aug 2020

by omitting facts and context, the fact that misleading people sparked vitriol and hate, and that it was irresponsible to mislead people in the service of generating publicity?

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. But some said she nominated Sanders, which is incorrect.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:47 AM
Aug 2020


BTW, didn't you tell me this a few weeks ago?

...btw, no need to bother responding. you can consider yourself blocked, both here and on the board...


BTW II, why do you have a post of mine in your signature?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213876254#post29

George II (55,355 posts)

29. I'd love to tell of some people I see but I'm only 140 pounds.


George II

(67,782 posts)
38. Did you watch the convention last night? The Permanent Chairman of the Convention....
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:02 AM
Aug 2020

....Bennie Thompson, called it a seconding speech.

Why is this so important to you?

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. You never answered why you had a post of mine, word-for-word including the typo, in your signature?
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:30 AM
Aug 2020

tavernier

(12,401 posts)
20. I'll be booed for this
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:10 AM
Aug 2020

but the whole AOC thing is starting to annoy me. Why does she require more attention than the rest of the party... month after month.

Ok, go ahead, whack me with a shovel.

Gothmog

(145,558 posts)
23. I agree
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:17 AM
Aug 2020

Collin Allred and Connor Lamb ended up with more time than AOC last night as participants in the key note speech with Stacy Abrams and I was happy with this. I loved the revised key note speech last night with all of the young rising stars of the party such as Connor and Collin. BTW, Collin is a voting rights attorney who worked at Marc Elias' firm and has been a great freshman congresscritter. I have donated to Connor and will be giving him another donation this week

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. This. Thank you.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:30 AM
Aug 2020
Collin Allred and Connor Lamb ended up with more time than AOC last night as participants in the key note speech with Stacy Abrams and I was happy with this. I loved the revised key note speech last night with all of the young rising stars of the party such as Connor and Collin.
I trust Joe Biden and our party leaders' decisions. They know what they're doing. They're in charge.

🎶 Where they lead... I will follow... anywhere... that they want me to. 🎵

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. I know. Others share your feelings.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:18 AM
Aug 2020

Personally, I prefer to judge politicians by their legislative accomplishments.

...more attention than the rest of the party.
I do not know. Sorry. It's a mystery.

...go ahead, whack me with a shovel.
I wouldn't do that to you, nor would I boo you.

tavernier

(12,401 posts)
50. I'm sure her accomplishments will be many
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:32 AM
Aug 2020

as she is a smart and energetic lady. It’s only that at this point in her career, I want to see her name less in the floodlights. I realize that this notoriety is not necessarily her fault, but she does usually happen to have a quote or a photo opportunity when others don’t. Otherwise I have nothing against her.

bullwinkle428

(20,630 posts)
32. Please don't allow whatever antipathy you may feel for AOC distract you
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:41 AM
Aug 2020

from the idea that "respected" media outlets are absolutely DESPERATE to hang onto their "Trump-sized" ratings they've been experiencing since 2015, and will do anything to push the "Dems in disarray" meme.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. Ad hominem
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:09 AM
Aug 2020

Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term that refers to several types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion to some irrelevant but often highly charged issue. The most common form of this fallacy is "A makes a claim x, B asserts that A holds a property that is unwelcome, and hence B concludes that argument x is wrong".

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
47. I like AOC
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:29 AM
Aug 2020

I like AOC but to me she doesn’t have the temperament for anything above her current office. I like her fire and her passion but I am not sure she would do well in a role that requires more even handedness. Maybe after a little more experience. I hope so because I do think she could have a bright future. With that said I have no problem with her pushing for more progressive policies within the party. She (IMO) is doing it the right way. Working within the party. Ironically, (although I voted for him to show support for his ideas) the guy she supports, Bernie, is (IMO) doing it wrong... Using the Democratic platform instead of joining it permanently and working from within the party.

Liberal In Texas

(13,576 posts)
24. The NBC associate producer or whoever posted that first Tweet needs to
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:17 AM
Aug 2020

be put back into the job of getting coffee for the staff or opening mail, which seems about the limit of that persons abilities.

They obviously aren't capable of writing news copy.

LiberalFighter

(51,084 posts)
26. I would like to know who is responsible for the tweet by NBC.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:22 AM
Aug 2020

Both the person tweeting it and behind it.

lapucelle

(18,319 posts)
43. I wonder why she didn't reveal the purpose of her appearance herself last week
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:00 AM
Aug 2020

in response to the Business Insider tweet that started the online tempest in a teapot.


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