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Honestly, do you know ANY Democrat who wants to ABOLISH the suburbs? (Original Post) Laelth Aug 2020 OP
Nope PJMcK Aug 2020 #1
it's a racism blowhorn Skittles Aug 2020 #2
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2020 #3
No. We're not. Mea culpa. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #4
There could be spies here. H2O Man Aug 2020 #7
what they mean is, some democrats want to remove redlining that keeps minorities out unblock Aug 2020 #5
I've seen a bunch of suburbs in this country. Laelth Aug 2020 #6
ah, but the myth lives on, and the republican party is allll about myth... unblock Aug 2020 #8
Black, and Asian, and Sub-continental ... I love the suburbs these days. Laelth Aug 2020 #11
I think this explains their strategy JonLP24 Aug 2020 #9
Lions and tigers and bears oh my! agingdem Aug 2020 #10
No. But trump wants to lower the number of minorities in suburbs from 35% jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #12


(22,215 posts)
1. Nope
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:47 PM
Aug 2020

However, I don't ever want to live in a suburb again! For me, it's NYC and the Catskill Mountains.


(154,464 posts)
2. it's a racism blowhorn
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:51 PM
Aug 2020

Trump's racist supporters eat up that kind of silly propaganda, indeed they do.

H2O Man

(74,271 posts)
3. Recommended.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:52 PM
Aug 2020

Un, er, uh, we aren't supposed to talk about the Top Secret Promise that Joe Biden has made, are we?

H2O Man

(74,271 posts)
7. There could be spies here.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:04 PM
Aug 2020

So we can't mention tonight's super-secret meeting with Biden, Karl Marx, And Freddie Douglas. Not a word.


(53,096 posts)
5. what they mean is, some democrats want to remove redlining that keeps minorities out
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:00 PM
Aug 2020

and in their world, allowing black people in would destroy the suburbs.

some argue that the whole point of the suburbs for white people was to get away from black people.


(32,017 posts)
6. I've seen a bunch of suburbs in this country.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:02 PM
Aug 2020

At this point, they’re all multi-cultural. If the Republicans want “all white” suburbs, it’s too late. That ship has already sailed.



(53,096 posts)
8. ah, but the myth lives on, and the republican party is allll about myth...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:04 PM
Aug 2020

they are harnessing the white resentment of people who moved into lily-white burbs and now have black people as neighbors.


(32,017 posts)
11. Black, and Asian, and Sub-continental ... I love the suburbs these days.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:18 PM
Aug 2020

I am still an inner-city guy by preference and by nature, but the suburbs that I have visited in the past ten years have been incredibly diverse, and I am fairly certain that no Democrat wants to “abolish” them.



(29,324 posts)
9. I think this explains their strategy
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:08 PM
Aug 2020

Trump Supports Housing Segregation—and So Do a Lot of White Liberals

In recent weeks, just after the umpteenth round of media reports about the president’s purported change in tone, Donald Trump resumed stoking white people’s fears of Black people. This time, his racist outbursts were directed at “all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream,” who he indicated would find themselves living in a multiracial nightmare if Joe Biden is elected.

“People have gone to the suburbs. They want the beautiful homes. They don’t have to have a low-income housing development built in their community…which has reduced the prices of their homes and also increased crime substantially,” Trump stated during a virtual rally with supporters. A day later in Texas, he picked up right where he left off. “I’ve seen conflict for years. It’s been hell for suburbia. We rescinded the rule three days ago. So enjoy your life, ladies and gentlemen. Enjoy your life.” The rule Trump rescinded was issued by the Obama administration in 2015 and required localities to track recurring issues around housing discrimination and create detailed plans for how to fix those problems. It aimed to strengthen the Fair Housing Act, the same anti-discrimination legislation the Justice Department sued Trump for violating in 1973. Almost 50 years after losing that case, he is still suggesting that whiteness should be the default measure of safety and affluence of a neighborhood while the mere presence of Blackness threatens both. The president says these kinds of overtly racist things partly because he believes them but also because—particularly when an election is on the line—they almost always work.

Even as the suburbs lean more Democratic than in the past, recent examples of white liberal NIMBYism prove that Trump knows precisely which anti-Black buttons to push. In Silver Spring, Md., as local officials consider proposals to eliminate exclusionary zoning policies that prevent more affordable housing from being built, residents have staged protests and taken to social media to register bitter complaints. (“I doubt that any of my neighbors want to stop living in their single family homes because an academic has told them it’s racist to own a house with a large yard,” one poster wrote.) Last year a group of wealthy homeowners in San Francisco launched a GoFundMe campaign to pay the costs of waging a court battle against a homeless services center slated to be built in their neighborhood. In Maplewood, N.J.—where, according to The New York Times, Black Lives Matter signs are a common lawn adornment—a group of Black parents had to file a lawsuit in 2018 to force the desegregation of district public schools. And in New York City, after learning their children would be rezoned to a majority African American school, white parents publicly worried about the danger posed by Black elementary schoolkids. The rezoning went forward as planned, but most of the white kids never made the transfer, presumably because their parents sought whiter learning environs.

These examples of liberal white racism are further borne out by data. In a 2009 study, researchers found white people indicated that, compared with integrated and all-Black neighborhoods, “all-white neighborhoods were most desirable.” A report from Harvard published this January noted, “Despite parents’ espoused support for integration, in districts where parents are actually given greater opportunities to choose schools, schools appear to become more segregated.” The authors concluded that “many White, advantaged parents appear to determine school quality by how many other White, advantaged parents send their child to a school, without doing the legwork to determine what schools in a district are actually high-quality and a good fit for their child.” Another report released early this year determined that “the 12 most politically progressive cities in the U.S. have significantly larger achievement gaps [between Black and white students] in reading, math and high school graduation than the 12 most politically conservative cities.” Among those deeply blue places with the highest Black-white proficiency gaps are San Francisco, Seattle, Oakland, Portland, and Washington.



(8,088 posts)
10. Lions and tigers and bears oh my!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:10 PM
Aug 2020

restricted enclaves of white entitlement..suburban housewives hiding in their well appointed wine sellers swilling their Robert Mondavi Private Label Merlot, fearing an invasion of BLM terrorists...suburban husbands locked in their man-caves, clutching their bottles of Jim Beam and their Big Green Egg Outdoor Grills..

that's Trump's suburbs...be afraid..be very afraid


(8,811 posts)
12. No. But trump wants to lower the number of minorities in suburbs from 35%
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:41 PM
Aug 2020

That may require eliminating certain suburbs that are made up entirely of minorities. My neighborhood, for instance...

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