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Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 06:34 PM Aug 2020

Something for our time, from J.R.R. Tolkien.

“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.
“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” J.R.R. Tolkien The Fellowship of the Ring

I'm pretty sure someone has shared this already, but it really speaks to me.

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Something for our time, from J.R.R. Tolkien. (Original Post) Adsos Letter Aug 2020 OP
Or this, from Thomas Paine . . . Journeyman Aug 2020 #1
J.R.R. Tolkien and Thomas Paine. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #2
And Buster Scruggs'! ZZenith Aug 2020 #5
And Buster Scruggs. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #7
So good! ZZenith Aug 2020 #8
Yup! Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #9
You mean edhopper Aug 2020 #15
Yes. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #19
+1 gulliver Aug 2020 #4
Recommended just for having J.R.R. Tolkien in the subject gulliver Aug 2020 #3
His works kept me sane during my Army service. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #10
Tolkien had some great pearls of wisdom woven Ilsa Aug 2020 #6
Such a gifted author. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #11
I was watching the Trilogy during the RNC last week.... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2020 #12
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity." Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #18
There are a number of documentaries LunaSea Aug 2020 #35
Thank you for sharing those. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #37
A big fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #13
The Tolkien quote, and the Paine quote cited above by Journeyman. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #21
As do I, my dear Adsos Letter! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #24
Thank you. Tolkien really speaks to me during times like this. Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #14
You're welcome. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #22
My favorite Tolkien quote. Here's the clip from the movie: Amaryllis Aug 2020 #16
Thank you for sharing that. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #23
Thanks for posting it. I have often thought of it in times such as these. It is comforting, Amaryllis Aug 2020 #25
One night on a student's essay he was grading, he wrote this sentence, edhopper Aug 2020 #17
"Large streams from little fountains flow... Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #26
Another apt quote from LOTR anamnua Aug 2020 #20
Beautiful. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #27
Very apropos. He wrote The Hobbit and the trilogy... paleotn Aug 2020 #28
I recall reading that it started as a serial in letters he wrote to his son stationed in S. Africa. Adsos Letter Aug 2020 #30
A friend recently quoted that to me... CBHagman Aug 2020 #29
This is one of my favorite quotes. It inspires me, especially these days. catbyte Aug 2020 #31
As I am reading LOTR just now, all your contributions of my favorite passages are bringing tears ... Hekate Aug 2020 #32
Kicked and recommended. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2020 #33
I will give my life to make a better future for those ahead of me. warmfeet Aug 2020 #34
I can't even guess how many times I have read LOTR and The Hobbit. aka-chmeee Aug 2020 #36
K AND R and yuiyoshida Aug 2020 #38

Journeyman

(15,041 posts)
1. Or this, from Thomas Paine . . .
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 06:38 PM
Aug 2020
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace."

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
6. Tolkien had some great pearls of wisdom woven
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 06:44 PM
Aug 2020

throughout The Hobbit and the LOTR series. Gandalf advising Frodo not to be so quick to deal judgment and death, was another.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,808 posts)
12. I was watching the Trilogy during the RNC last week....
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:14 PM
Aug 2020

Gandalf says the same thing to Aragon after the Battle at Helm's Deep, knowing it was him who would unite men to fight against the forces of Mordor, restore the faith in men to rule and rebuild Middle Earth.

Tolkein also drew from his deep Catholic faith and experiences during WWI in the formation of the Fellowship of The Ring, some of the spirituality in the trilogy, as well as forming his characters.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
18. "What we do in life, echoes in eternity."
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:41 PM
Aug 2020

You and Tolkien are saying the same thing, I think.

"Tolkien also drew from his deep Catholic faith and experiences during WWI in the formation of the Fellowship of The Ring, some of the spirituality in the trilogy, as well as forming his characters."


I did not know this, but it makes sense. WWI had such an enormous impact on the people of it's time, yet is often overshadowed by the massive (and heavily filmed) destruction of WWII, even though they are part and parcel of the same thing. I believe that many historians combine the two as The Great European Civil War, with a 20 year intermission.

Thank you for commenting about Tolkien.

LunaSea

(2,895 posts)
35. There are a number of documentaries
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 08:36 PM
Aug 2020

about Tolkien and the influences in his life that led to his writing.



Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
37. Thank you for sharing those.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 08:43 PM
Aug 2020

I am bookmarking your post for late this evening, when I will have time to relax and enjoy them.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
21. The Tolkien quote, and the Paine quote cited above by Journeyman.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

As a father of two, and a grandfather of four, I hold both sentiments at the same time.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
16. My favorite Tolkien quote. Here's the clip from the movie:
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:39 PM
Aug 2020

Also: Gandalf to Frodo: "There are other forces at work in this world besides evil."

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
25. Thanks for posting it. I have often thought of it in times such as these. It is comforting,
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:51 PM
Aug 2020

including the part that Gandalf says after the part you quoted.

edhopper

(33,635 posts)
17. One night on a student's essay he was grading, he wrote this sentence,
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:40 PM
Aug 2020

"In a hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit."


Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
26. "Large streams from little fountains flow...
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:54 PM
Aug 2020

“Large streams from little fountains flow, Tall oaks from little acorns grow.” --D. Everett in The Columbian Orator (1797)

anamnua

(1,125 posts)
20. Another apt quote from LOTR
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

Sam's Realisation as he gazed at the star from the plains of Gorgoroth....&quot In the end, the shadow is just a passing thing...there is a High & Ancient beauty, that is forever beyond it's reach....)"...

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
28. Very apropos. He wrote The Hobbit and the trilogy...
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

in the run up and during WW2. He knew a few things about fascism.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
30. I recall reading that it started as a serial in letters he wrote to his son stationed in S. Africa.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 08:05 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Sun Aug 30, 2020, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

At least I think I read that somewhere. Possibly apocryphal.

CBHagman

(16,988 posts)
29. A friend recently quoted that to me...
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:58 PM
Aug 2020

...and it's as truthful as anything she could have said under the circumstances. History expects us to rise to the challenge, not end our efforts.

Hekate

(90,842 posts)
32. As I am reading LOTR just now, all your contributions of my favorite passages are bringing tears ...
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 08:19 PM
Aug 2020

...to my eyes. I don’t know how many times I’ve read LOTR since 1965, but each time nearly the same passages strike my heart. I have marked them in my books and in the ebooks. During the Bush/Cheney admin I typed out the passage in the OP and taped it to the wall by my computer.

Thank you, fellow travellers.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
34. I will give my life to make a better future for those ahead of me.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 08:24 PM
Aug 2020

That is what all of us are doing, whether we know it or not.

My time is given to helping those in the future.

aka-chmeee

(1,132 posts)
36. I can't even guess how many times I have read LOTR and The Hobbit.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 08:39 PM
Aug 2020

But I certainly remember why I started reading it. I happened across a book "Bored of the Rings" I believe from Harvard Lampoon. Even though I had no idea what the book was lampooning, I just had to find out. Drives the wife nuts every time I queue up the books to read again.

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