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(32 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:12 AM Sep 2012

Obama why do we not question him?

First I will state I am a liberal Democrat. Second, we need to ask Obama hard questions as to why he does what he does. If we had a Republican who continued wars the previous administration started we would raise cain. If a Republican took away some of our rights, we raise hell. If a Republican used drones to kill Americans overseas we scream why. If financial treaties such as the Pacific ream agreement was being done behind closed doors, we have marches to the White House. If a Republican allowed the CIA to work with local law enforcement to brutalize the Occupy movement we support the ACLU. If a republican allowed disasters such as Wall Street or the Gulf oil we would rally the troops to want punishment. If a Republican would not enforce rules set by the EPA people would rally and Democrats would stand with them, coal mining in West Virginia.
I want to know do we only want to win the election or have we forgot that we are the little guys protector? Where are we Democrats?

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Obama why do we not question him? (Original Post) Remember Sep 2012 OP
Could use some proof-reading. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #1
... Cirque du So-What Sep 2012 #2
Let's not even get down to capitalization and the importance of same... MADem Sep 2012 #65
We who? MadHound Sep 2012 #3
Complete agreement DJ13 Sep 2012 #18
instead of the negative "lesser of two evils ThomThom Sep 2012 #30
Why don't you state the situation in the form that you find agreeable, MadHound Sep 2012 #49
Are you affected by this stuff? Robb Sep 2012 #52
Does it ever make you scratch your head MadHound Sep 2012 #53
So, no? Robb Sep 2012 #56
whish, it cleared by about 7 feet. grantcart Sep 2012 #64
So you think our President is evil? ThomThom Sep 2012 #62
I'll Ask Him After The Election If You Don't Mind DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #4
Thank you for that one! Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #14
They Asked Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali Essentially The Same Question At The 60 Olympics DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #22
Sorry this does not add much but Smickey Sep 2012 #54
Right now we are in the middle of a tough election. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #5
"We Democrats." Robb Sep 2012 #6
Plenty of people question President Obama's policies. Curtland1015 Sep 2012 #7
O is the best we got landolfi Sep 2012 #8
OK, those are your questions for Obama..... daleanime Sep 2012 #9
First off. trumad Sep 2012 #10
That's what I thought too. nt Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #41
You are absolutely correct. Pisces Sep 2012 #45
Nice try. Most of us are not 100% satisfied with Obama but know he's waaay better than the vulture. Scuba Sep 2012 #11
Oy vey alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #12
A Lot Of Trolls Lately DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #27
They aren't even very good at trolling any more. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #32
"He's dead, Jim." :) pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #38
They think we're as stupid as they are. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #60
Typical bullshit. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #13
Punctuation why is that fake liberals never seem to know what it is Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #15
Your concerns are duly noted. Nt PCIntern Sep 2012 #16
You know that there are basically two choices for President this election. porphyrian Sep 2012 #17
And the part about 'allowing' the Gulf disaster to happen. randome Sep 2012 #19
Yeah, they don't seem to know what a "tell" is. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #37
This is "Democratic Underground" during an election season. Walk away Sep 2012 #20
oh we do ibegurpard Sep 2012 #21
Aw, Jeez, I never thought of any of that stuff before. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #23
This OP is incoherent ProSense Sep 2012 #24
"the Pacific ream agreement" MineralMan Sep 2012 #25
I don't question him at this time for one reason only. Autumn Sep 2012 #26
++++++1 still_one Sep 2012 #35
Nice try. Obama will still be reelected. Romney sucks. MjolnirTime Sep 2012 #28
First, what's the Pacific "ream"??? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2012 #29
This would seem to be a drive-by. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #31
Welcom to DU - Challenging Democratic candidates since Jan 2001. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2012 #33
maybe you haven't been following posts here, but many do. However, at this stage of the game with still_one Sep 2012 #34
"we"? I'd bet not ... TBF Sep 2012 #36
Well, it looks like we won't have to remember Remember. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #39
But I will always remember his inciteful (sic) nature! randome Sep 2012 #44
We see you on Pacific ream! NoPasaran Sep 2012 #40
OMG! I've had a revelation! nobodyspecial Sep 2012 #42
WT heck is a Pacific Ream????? skeewee08 Sep 2012 #43
Pacific Ream Sounds Vaguely Pornographic DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #46
sex threads are banned Demonaut Sep 2012 #47
Obama is not who or what we need to question madokie Sep 2012 #48
Sorry, but the accusation of racism is no excuse to deny justice, MadHound Sep 2012 #50
Enjoy your stay malaise Sep 2012 #51
Yea, I thought I recognized you. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #55
Another worm goes down with the rotten apples, bye Draconian Puke. DainBramaged Sep 2012 #57
R you kidding me. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #58
spend some time here. he's questioned all the time. and the democrats are right fucking here. spanone Sep 2012 #59
He gone flushed with the rest of the shit today DainBramaged Sep 2012 #61
Plenty of us do quinnox Sep 2012 #63
Remember has left the building. ohheckyeah Sep 2012 #66
There is a young marine in the next room visiting my son EmeraldCityGrl Sep 2012 #67

MADem

(135,425 posts)
65. Let's not even get down to capitalization and the importance of same...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:01 AM
Sep 2012

The "I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse" phrase comes to mind....!!!!

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
3. We who?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sep 2012

There are lots of liberals, including myself, who question Obama's actions every day. Liberals who write and email him with these questions.

The fact is, a lot of liberals, while not liking Obama or what he has done, are stuck in the position of having to vote for the lesser of two evils. Of course that has been the case for decades now, and it is a major reason why our society is in the position it's in now.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
49. Why don't you state the situation in the form that you find agreeable,
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
Sep 2012

And I will state the situation in the form I view as closest to reality?

Sorry, I don't do doublespeak or any of its Orwellian derivatives.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
52. Are you affected by this stuff?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:46 AM
Sep 2012

Seriously, what does that mind of yours tell you when troll after troll you agree with -- you know, rethugs pretending to be criticize Democrats from the left -- get the granite pizzas?

What are we to think? I mean, *I* know you're sincere. But does it ever make you scratch your head that you sound just like them?

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
53. Does it ever make you scratch your head
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:05 PM
Sep 2012

That you come across as authoritarian and rigidly doctrinaire as the most rigid of freepers?

Seriously you keep tiptoeing up to that line of calling me a troll, or worse. At least have the courage of your convictions and say what you think, plainly and concisely rather than continuing this coward's dance.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
62. So you think our President is evil?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:47 PM
Sep 2012

You maybe right. I don't really have a grasp on evil.
Didn't mean to pull your tail Hound, just thought people might want to consider an alternative to negativity all the time.
I have definitely wanted more from this administration and am sorry things have not gone exactly as I wished/hoped.
Peace Out Man

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,729 posts)
4. I'll Ask Him After The Election If You Don't Mind
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

It reminds of what Joe Louis said when they asked him while he was serving in the Army during WW ll how he could serve a nation that was persecuting his people. He answered "It ain't nothing Hitler can fix."

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,729 posts)
22. They Asked Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali Essentially The Same Question At The 60 Olympics
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:33 AM
Sep 2012

He said "We (the United States) have some really smart people working on it."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,576 posts)
5. Right now we are in the middle of a tough election.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

The questions we would want to ask a President Romney would be far more disturbing.

But thanks for your concern.

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
7. Plenty of people question President Obama's policies.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:22 AM
Sep 2012

But we are right up against an election here. Even if you disagree with a lot of what the president has done, it would be nothing compared to what a President Romney would do.

First we need to get Obama reelected, assuming you want that (your call). Then we can focus on the parts of his policy we disagree with.

In my opinion anyway.

landolfi

(234 posts)
8. O is the best we got
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:22 AM
Sep 2012

and that's an understatement, he's 100x more electable than Kerry or Gore and I liked them both. I too am a liberal democrat, and though I was somewhat disappointed with the first term, he delivered on many of his promises (despite what the right says). He will have the latitude to lean considerably more liberal knowing he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected. If he'd been as liberal as we'd all like during his first term, I doubt the race would be where it is now even with Mittens the Clown running.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
9. OK, those are your questions for Obama.....
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:25 AM
Sep 2012

now what would you ask rMoney?



Now compare,......... any other questions?

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
10. First off.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:25 AM
Sep 2012

I have found from my years of DU participation---those who start out by saying they are "Liberal Democrats" are just the opposite.

Alerted

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
11. Nice try. Most of us are not 100% satisfied with Obama but know he's waaay better than the vulture.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:26 AM
Sep 2012

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
13. Typical bullshit.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:28 AM
Sep 2012

A Calderon of opinion and half truths masked as policy questions. The simple answer is that a republican will be fucking worse on every claim made. Who the fuck started two wars and who want the USA to get involved in two more wars? Obama lived up to his promise to get out of Iraq and is winding down the war in Afghanistan, those are facts. Unfortunately wars can't just be dropped cold as many liberal want, that is fucking suicidal. I have no concerns with killing terrorists leaders with drones, none at all, I will double up to say that I want more efficient drones for killing their asses, drones that target an individual and eliminate collateral damage. Your claim about the CIA acting locally sounds like paranoid bullshit, I seriously doubt that you have one ounce of facts to prove it.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
17. You know that there are basically two choices for President this election.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:31 AM
Sep 2012

There are others, but they are statistically so unlikely to win that they are not worth discussing at this time, though their messages may be better; I'm not judging that. Of the two likely future-Presidents, which is the best choice? The differences are very clear and this should not be difficult for anyone. If you vote against one, you are basically voting for the other. So, if you do not agree with all of President Obama's positions, do you prefer Romney's? If not, you need to hold your nose and vote for President Obama anyway or you are voting for Romney. We aren't voting for Romney.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
23. Aw, Jeez, I never thought of any of that stuff before.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:36 AM
Sep 2012

Now that you've brought me to the light, though, I guess I got no choice but to vote for rMoney, or at the very least stay home in order to express my disappointment with Obama.


Hey, maybe your handlers will pay you a little bonus if you send them a copy of this post as evidence of how effective and clever you are.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
24. This OP is incoherent
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:37 AM
Sep 2012

"If a Republican took away some of our rights ...If a Republican used drones...If a republican allowed disasters such as Wall Street...If a Republican would not enforce rules set by the EPA"

...Republican apologist bullshit.

Republicans did destroy the economy. In fact, Republicans did all those things. They're the friggin reason the country is screwed up.

That last one is a gem given that Republicans are trying to kill the EPA.

Autumn

(45,146 posts)
26. I don't question him at this time for one reason only.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

I am a very liberal Democrat and right now there is one thing and one thing only that stands between me and complete and utter bat shit crazy and very bad things that would happen if Mitt and his ilk gain power, and that one thing that stands between me and that, is Barack Obama. Now after he gets reelected I will raise hell but right now, all that matters is him being reelected.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,863 posts)
29. First, what's the Pacific "ream"???
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:41 AM
Sep 2012

Second, the Wall Street debacle started in the late summer of 2008 -- before President Obama was elected.

He "let" the Gulf oil spill happen? Now that's funny!

still_one

(92,740 posts)
34. maybe you haven't been following posts here, but many do. However, at this stage of the game with
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:49 AM
Sep 2012

less than 2 months left until election, it doesn't serve much purpose unless we can get him re-elected along with a Democratic Congress

If that doesn't not happen, as troubling as those issues are, it would be 100 times worse if the republicans won.

Not only would Medicare and Social Security be dismantled, our involvement in new wars would be almost a certainty, and right of labor, women, and civil rights in general would be thrown back decades.

No things could get a lot worse. Let's get in first, and give him a Democratic Congress so there is no excuse

TBF

(32,297 posts)
36. "we"? I'd bet not ...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:50 AM
Sep 2012

enjoy your stay.

Well you convinced a DU jury which must be why MIRT is sitting on this -

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this post at Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:29 AM, and voted 2-4 to keep it.


That ought to be worth a quarter or something ...

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
42. OMG! I've had a revelation!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sep 2012

Thanks to your incisive questioning, I will NOT be voting for Obama. You're absolutely right.














madokie

(51,076 posts)
48. Obama is not who or what we need to question
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:23 AM
Sep 2012

racism is.
Can you imagine what would have happened if the black Obama would have instigated charges against the white former administration for what the racist in this country see as them saving us from the Muslims when in reality they started two illegal and unnecessary wars that have cost us dearly. I could go on but surely you can see why Obama has done what he's done and why he hasn't done what he hasn't done.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
50. Sorry, but the accusation of racism is no excuse to deny justice,
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

Which is worse, the president being insulted, or people continuing to die because justice simply wasn't served?

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
63. Plenty of us do
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

I have said it many times, Obama is a big disappointment, speaking as a liberal Democrat. I have never changed my position regarding this. Why others don't question him, well, some are sheepish, some think it is not their place to question their "betters", and so on. Some are zealous in being a Democratic party member and consider any questioning a form of disloyalty.There are many reasons why people wouldn't question a president.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
67. There is a young marine in the next room visiting my son
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:22 AM
Sep 2012

And safely home from Afghanistan. He tells me things are winding down and
I believe he is telling me the truth to the best of his ability. We have a president to
Re-elect or perhaps you'd prefer Willard who is baiting Russia and Iran at a time
When current events in the ME have never been more fragile and unpredictable.

You're timing stinks.

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