Dave Wasserman: I've seen enough: Sen. Ed Markey has defeated Rep. Joe Kennedy III

[melman]

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[Celerity]

1. good nt

[liskddksil]

2. Major own goal by Pelosi endorsing Kennedy

Definitely question her political instincts on that one.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. She said it was because she feels an obligation to support her House members.

I don't think it's that big of a deal.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

7. So you think we should primary incumbents?

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Interesting.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Depends entirely on who they are and who their challenger is.

I'm just repeating what she said, not necessarily agreeing with it. But I don't think it's a big deal.

[W_HAMILTON]

33. If the incumbent is one of her members, no, I would assume she would not ordinarily be in favor.

And holding such position are not double standards or hypocritical.

[George II]

8. Nor do I. It's what is done in situations like this - Markey had a very classy response....

....to Pelosi's endorsement of Kennedy.

[liskddksil]

64. So if AOC primaries Schumer, will Nancy be supporting her house member?...don't think so nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

67. That's up to her. Not my circus, not my monkeys.

[cilla4progress]

5. Agree

Sadly.

[Cha]

29. ""Sadly agree" on what?

[Cha]

28. No, it isn't & I don't at all.. Nancy Pelosi had a big part in getting us

the House Victory in 2018.. It's been acknowledged by those who won.

They won on Health Care and It was Nancy's advice to run on it.

Don't know why you're trying to make Markey's Win about Nancy Pelosi. I wanted Markey to Win, too.

Congratulations, Senator Markey.

[George II]

53. Not at all. You question the "political instincts" of the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE?

[liskddksil]

63. Yes. I call them like I see it. I don't do blind loyalty to anyone nt

[cilla4progress]

3. Yes...

progressives win!

[George II]

10. Incumbents usually do win.

[octoberlib]

25. Markey voted for NAFTA,

for the 1994 Crime Bill, for the Iraq War, and opposed busing in the 70's. But whatevs.

[JI7]

26. Her is still a liberal just as many others that certain people attacked were.

[Cha]

32. Thanks for that.. I wanted Sen Markey to win.. but my

god the damn labels!

[octoberlib]

44. Agree. Very confusing.

[Cha]

49. Sen Markey has much the same record that Biden got

attacked for by "progressives".

Thankfully it didn't amount to a hill of beans.

[octoberlib]

52. Any other candidate who voted like this would be called a "corporate neo-liberal shill".

It's just so ......weird.

[R B Garr]

66. +1, Weird indeed. nt

[George II]

59. And the "AUMF". I'm so glad Markey won tonight, but it's funny how purity can be pure....

....on some issues but not on others, eh?

[octoberlib]

61. Yep.My point exactly.

[R B Garr]

65. Wow! Great points. What's up with that.

[tblue37]

6. Good! nt

[GusFring]

9. Ed beat a Kennedy... Wow

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. Being named Kennedy shouldn't be a free pass to any elected office.

[octoberlib]

27. The incumbent usually wins. No wow about it. Probably a bad decision on Kennedy's part.

[SpaceNeedle]

12. Sad day

[JI7]

14. oh please, there is very little difference between candidates here. It would be sad if Scott Brown

or some other Republican took the seat.

[la-trucker]

46. Perhaps he wants a markey Kennedy in the senate instead of

a Pakistan friendly Markey.

[SpaceNeedle]

54. We need a Kennedy in the senate

Markey is sympathetic to terrorist Pakistan

[JI7]

55. He should have waited until Markey or Warren left

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

68. Why? Being a Kennedy doesn't confer any special status.

They have to earn their positions as much as anyone else. We don't need a Kennedy in the Senate just because he's a Kennedy.

[dem4decades]

19. Why?

[a kennedy]

13. I just wish Joe wouldn't have done this.......

[CentralMass]

16. I agree and I do like Joe Kennedy. However, this was questionable.

[George II]

21. Yes, not a good decision. And now he's going to be out of the House soon, too.

[Raine]

17. I know, I really like Joe Kennedy. ☹ nt

[sheshe2]

39. Yep.

He gave up his seat in the 4th district. My district that I voted him in to be my representative. I am disappointed that he left us behind.

Looks like Mermell is leading to take that seat, she is my choice. Auchicloss is running second. He changed parties to campaign to help Baker-R Governor. I don't trust him at all.

[tritsofme]

18. Stupid decision by Kennedy to run. No sympathy here.

[aikoaiko]

20. Its still early, but I'm practicing my happy dance.

It's probably good for Joe to learn a little more humility and come back stronger and smarter later.

If Joe loses, I heard that this will be the first time a Kennedy lost a primary in MA.

[mvd]

48. Yes, he'll have time in the future

More disappointed in the Neal race than happy about this one, but glad Markey won. Markey’s gotten more progressive over the years and should go out on his terms.

[PaDemocrat]

22. Honestly don't get the love for Markey.

But whatever.

Congrats

[octoberlib]

23. Markey was the establishment candidate and is a good guy. No surprise he won.

At least now the death threats against Kennedy will stop.

[JI7]

30. The people doing that are not Democrats and most likely support Trump

[sheshe2]

42. Markey is listed as the 4th most Progressive Senator.

[George II]

69. Yes, he's been a good Representative and now Senator for MA. Imagine, an "establishment"....

....politician (he first was elected to the House in 1976, 44 years ago) being that progressive.

I thought that was impossible. Just goes to show you, one can't generalize when assessing legislators.

[theaocp]

71. Are you implying Markey had anything to do with death threats against Kennedy?

Or perhaps his supporters? This is the first I heard of this.

[GulfCoast66]

24. I'd love to have either as my Senator in Florida.

From where I sit there was not really much difference between the two. Not that I studied the race all that hard as I had no dog in the fight.

I must say I am glad to see that being named Kennedy is no longer a ticket to higher office. It somehow seemed anti-Democratic.

[jorgevlorgan]

31. A progressive wins again!!!

[uponit7771]

34. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾

[JI7]

35. Yes, Supporting NAFTA is progressive. Hopefully we won't have those bs attacks

agsinst Democrats that support free trade anymore.

[jorgevlorgan]

36. Its crazy how I haven't thought of NAFTA in 4 years

Right now keeping the word from exploding is far higher in our priorities, I think.

[JI7]

38. Was Kennedy going to blow up the world ?

[jorgevlorgan]

40. Maybe

Right now the fewer progressive us senators we have, the more likely that will happen post haste.

[JI7]

45. So you agree that supporting NAFTA is Progressive ?

[jorgevlorgan]

50. I agree that solving our income inequality immediately

Will be one fundamental way to prevent a civil war. NAFTA is neither here nor there in that department, as to is a foreign policy issue more than a domestic issue.

[JI7]

51. So you agree that NAFTA did not destroy American jobs ?

[jorgevlorgan]

56. I don't care at this point

[JI7]

57. lol

[jorgevlorgan]

58. ..

[Cha]

43. Right.. when I think of All the Ridiculous Attacks on Biden for having much

the same record as Sen Markey.. Well, I better not ever see that again.

Please see #25..

[Cha]

37. As noted in post #25 Markey has much of the same Record as Joe Biden..

Star Member octoberlib (12,201 posts)

25. Markey voted for NAFTA,

for the 1994 Crime Bill, for the Iraq War, and opposed busing in the 70's. But whatevs.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14009602

I wanted Markey to win.. I've liked him for a long time.. but not because "the progressive wins again!!!!"

Senator Markey's been dong a great job for Massachusetts & there was 0 reason to primary him.

[JI7]

41. It's important to point this out becsuse people use it against

good Democrats in order to help Republicans win.

[Cha]

47. Exactly.. What's good enough for Sen Markey is Good

Enough for Joe Biden. And, Thankfully all these kind of Attacks against Biden didn't add up to a hill of beans.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

60. Go Ed Mahkey!!! nt

[Luciferous]

62. Good

[marmar]

70. Good.