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IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:36 PM Sep 2020

The stock market thinks Joe Biden is going to beat Donald Trump

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/02/investing/joe-biden-stock-market-donald-trump/index.html

New York (CNN Business)The presidential election is only two months away and the stock market is soaring.

In theory, that should bode well for President Trump since a bull market has historically benefited the incumbent. But Trump is trailing Democratic challenger Joe Biden in many head-to-head national polls.

Although the market's sharp rebound since March could be viewed as a sign that investors expect the coronavirus-induced recession to be brief, you need to dig deeper and look at how the recovery is unfolding.

It turns out a basket of stocks that could fare well in a Biden presidency have been outperforming the overall market — as well as a portfolio of stocks that might benefit from a second Trump term.

Blue stocks vs red

According to data from Strategas that was shared with CNN Business, a group of infrastructure, renewable energy, pro-globalization, health care and cannabis stocks are up more than 10% since early June.

This so-called Biden or blue list includes companies like Granite Construction (GVA), Tesla (TSLA), First Solar (FSLR), chip giant Broadcom (AVGO) and the iShares MSCI Germany ETF (EWG), which owns several top German stocks.

The bet is that these companies might thrive if Biden wins and pushes for the United States to rebuild highways and bridges, wean America off oil and restore fractured trade relations with China, Japan, Europe and other global economic leaders.


Republicans are good for tax cuts to help "job creators". Democrats are good for creating actual jobs. Hoping enough voters in enough economically disadvantaged swing states have wised up to this by now.
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The stock market thinks Joe Biden is going to beat Donald Trump (Original Post) IronLionZion Sep 2020 OP
Still considering a 401k withdrawal apparently MissB Sep 2020 #1
Markets are propped up by trillions in stimulus right now IronLionZion Sep 2020 #2
That's part of his argument for taking it now MissB Sep 2020 #3
That's extremely bad news for the orange orangutan ass! dubyadiprecession Sep 2020 #4
Betting markets are close to 50-50 Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #5

MissB

(15,807 posts)
1. Still considering a 401k withdrawal apparently
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:40 PM
Sep 2020

Spouse wants to pull some out. Meets the minimum age requirement. He wants to pull out the gains since March.

The remaining is enough to retire on at the end of the year if he wanted to (isn’t quite ready to).

I’m calculating the taxes before he does it. I get it- he wants to pay off the mortgage and have more cash on hand each month.

Sigh.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
2. Markets are propped up by trillions in stimulus right now
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:45 PM
Sep 2020

America has been in recession before the COVID lockdowns started so I expect a market correction this fall, maybe around election time. Hopefully we'll have the Senate also to help implement Biden's reforms and then things will come back up as more Americans get back to work and trickle up.

MissB

(15,807 posts)
3. That's part of his argument for taking it now
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:50 PM
Sep 2020

Before the market correction.

It just goes against everything I know.

dubyadiprecession

(5,708 posts)
4. That's extremely bad news for the orange orangutan ass!
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:56 PM
Sep 2020

Trump watches the market.
That could give him the stress he needs for that final stroke!

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
5. Betting markets are close to 50-50
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:58 PM
Sep 2020

Not because there's a 50-50 chance of either guy winning, but because betters think Trump will steal it.

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