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global1

(25,247 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:14 PM Sep 2020

I'm Almost Totally Convinced That Trump Wants To Lose This Election......

Everyday he comes out with something more outlandish than the last that frosts off some other part of the electorate.

Today - I see it has to do with him saying Americans who died at war are losers and suckers. I'm thinking that this will take out the support he's had from military and veterans.

He's come out saying he plans to kill Social Security by 2023. That should take out his Seniors support.

He's already pissed off BLM folks.

He's lost support on his handling of the pandemic.

He's going down the line and he's destroying group after group of American voters.

I'm now convinced that he wants to lose in November.


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I'm Almost Totally Convinced That Trump Wants To Lose This Election...... (Original Post) global1 Sep 2020 OP
I think he's just an mzmolly Sep 2020 #1
I seriously think this is how his entire life has been. Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #2
Or... vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #3
Yep. Also, he's gotten away with pretty much everything up until now. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #18
He wouldn't hold rallies if he didn't want to win. IcyPeas Sep 2020 #4
He holds rallies because he's addicted to adulation. nt LAS14 Sep 2020 #12
IMO, nothing could be further from the truth Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #5
No. If he wanted to lose the election he'd just stay on golf courses. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #6
One, he gets off on causing chaos and ratf**king people, it gets him attention... Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #7
Win or lose.... safeinOhio Sep 2020 #8
I would say he lost his mind, but to lose one's mind, one must have one to lose. NNadir Sep 2020 #9
A persuasive hypothesis. nt LAS14 Sep 2020 #10
I wish this was true BUT bluestarone Sep 2020 #11
looks to me more like he doesn't care cos there isn't going to be any real election 0rganism Sep 2020 #13
I think all he wanted all along was his own network. He Luz Sep 2020 #14
That much was obvious on election night misanthrope Sep 2020 #34
Incompetence kurtcagle Sep 2020 #15
no fucking way Skittles Sep 2020 #16
This is what I think. Patterson Sep 2020 #25
yes Skittles Sep 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author kurtcagle Sep 2020 #17
Oh, no! He'll have lawsuits up to the gills, so he'll cheat to avoid that. Karadeniz Sep 2020 #19
I think he just acts on impulse and grievance. I don't think he makes any connection between tblue37 Sep 2020 #20
No. His vile, inner asshole is on full display and he's trying to rig the system... SMC22307 Sep 2020 #21
Don't forget Trump pissing off the Suburban Housewives. sarcasmo Sep 2020 #22
I'll believe that when he stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and aborts a fetus. robertpaulsen Sep 2020 #23
In his puny mind, he won once before when most people thought he couldn't win... Silent3 Sep 2020 #24
He wanted to lose last time too. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2020 #26
Could also look at it like they think they have it locked up somehow? bluestarone Sep 2020 #27
He may feel some relief if he loses. chriscan64 Sep 2020 #29
I don't think so. He's using gaslighting as a strategy. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #30
Yes Cosmo Blues Sep 2020 #31
I'm totally convinced trumPutin thinks he's Cha Sep 2020 #32
I believe i heard that sarisataka Sep 2020 #33
He fears nothing more Zeitghost Sep 2020 #35
He can't help it. He's a dick In It to Win It Sep 2020 #36

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
3. Or...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:18 PM
Sep 2020

He thinks Russia will ratfuck the election so much he'll win and will say anything because they are gonna ensure his victory.

I don't believe that but what he thinks

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
18. Yep. Also, he's gotten away with pretty much everything up until now.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:47 PM
Sep 2020

He probably believes he's invincible. He's also divorced from reality. And, incredibly stupid.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
5. IMO, nothing could be further from the truth
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:20 PM
Sep 2020

It will be embarrassing to the "great tRump name". Of course, he will NEVER admit defeat or that he lost. Not in a million years.

But no, he desperately wants to win. He is just so delusional that he doesn't have a clue what he is doing.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,856 posts)
6. No. If he wanted to lose the election he'd just stay on golf courses.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:21 PM
Sep 2020

He is simply delusional, thinks almost everyone loves him, and that the only way he could lose would be if there were massive fraud. Of the kind he actually encourages.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
7. One, he gets off on causing chaos and ratf**king people, it gets him attention...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:23 PM
Sep 2020

Two, he knows he won't get to be America's Putin without pushing and pushing.

NNadir

(33,518 posts)
9. I would say he lost his mind, but to lose one's mind, one must have one to lose.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:24 PM
Sep 2020

This third rate cheater never really got much beyond the third grade in real life, although apparently he did pay people to take tests for him.

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
11. I wish this was true BUT
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:25 PM
Sep 2020

Maybe if you gave me Just ONE reason he would want this would help me agree. I see NOTHING good for him if he's out of the whitehouse.

0rganism

(23,953 posts)
13. looks to me more like he doesn't care cos there isn't going to be any real election
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:27 PM
Sep 2020

don't get me wrong, we'll still have our "election" and the results will be very Belarusy. i fully expect to see a lot of surprise, disappointment, and shock on Nov. 4. it makes me feel sick inside.

Trump still holds rallies and has his "pressers" to boost enthusiasm among his brown-shirts, i don't think he really cares anymore. he and his team know how Nov. 3 will turn out, and he's fine with it, as long as his supporters are enthusiastic enough to push his nascent coup over the top.

or he's gone full-on senile, and that's the best case scenario.

Luz

(772 posts)
14. I think all he wanted all along was his own network. He
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:31 PM
Sep 2020

would have made more money playing the victim with a lot less stress. He could then complain 24/7 about any president. I don't think he ever really wanted to win. He may not want to this time.

I also think he will try to do something like that when he looses. It will be constant Biden/dem bashing loaded with any crazy conspiracy he can come up with. For a yearly fee, of course.

misanthrope

(7,415 posts)
34. That much was obvious on election night
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:03 AM
Sep 2020

The look on his face was transparent. That and the utter lack of preparation for the responsibilities of the office. They had done absolutely nothing in preparation for taking over, even if they were planning on using it as grift.

kurtcagle

(1,603 posts)
15. Incompetence
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:38 PM
Sep 2020

He's in a catch-22 situation. The moment that he leaves the White House, he loses any perceived invulnerability to prosecution, which is a huge fire keeping him motivated. The problem is that he really doesn't know how to lead orbe a popular president, and may be incapable of understanding what the job actually demands.

I also do believe that he expects that someone will bail him out. Putin, McConnell, Barr, DeJoy, someone. He's always found someone else to foot the bills. However, he's running out of runway to do it this time around, partially because he's pissed off so many potential allies.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
28. yes
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:04 PM
Sep 2020

these are the actions of a malignant narcissist (who has succeeded all his life with bullying ) who is now having to consider the idea he could actually LOSE

Response to global1 (Original post)

tblue37

(65,342 posts)
20. I think he just acts on impulse and grievance. I don't think he makes any connection between
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:50 PM
Sep 2020

his behavior and potential consequences, especially since he never really experiences consequences.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
21. No. His vile, inner asshole is on full display and he's trying to rig the system...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:54 PM
Sep 2020

so that he'll win. He thrives on this shit.

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
23. I'll believe that when he stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and aborts a fetus.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:02 PM
Sep 2020

Until then, GOTV like we're 10 points down!

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
24. In his puny mind, he won once before when most people thought he couldn't win...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:02 PM
Sep 2020

...and he did it by doing all of the crazy stuff people told him would make him lose.

He believes his "instincts" are way, way better than anyone else's opinion, and certainly better than crazy, loser things like thinking and careful analysis and using data.

And on top of that, he know both he and the Russian's are doing everything to give him an unfair advantage.

This is definitely Trump acting like he wants to win.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
26. He wanted to lose last time too.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:35 PM
Sep 2020

It seems that the more idiotic he is, the better he does. I don’t know if it’s possible for him to tank himself.

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
27. Could also look at it like they think they have it locked up somehow?
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:40 PM
Sep 2020

HE can do and say whatever the fuck he wants to. We really have to be on top of their BULLSHIT because they are after our THROATS!!! THEY will KILL anybody in their way for sure.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
29. He may feel some relief if he loses.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:21 PM
Sep 2020

But he is not wired to want to lose and will kill himself and us to win. Personally, I don't think he thought past winning the election in 2016. His inaugural speech was his 2020 reelection speech, and he's been campaigning from the Oval Office ever since. He never really worked out what being president was, and most likely doesn't give a shit.

Problem is, he wrote himself into a corner he can't get out of. He couldn't pass on running for a second term, not doing so would be quitting and make him a loser in his own eyes. If someone did want to tank an election and lose on purpose, Trump is teaching the master class. I just don't think he's doing that for himself.

Crunchy Frog

(26,582 posts)
30. I don't think so. He's using gaslighting as a strategy.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:28 PM
Sep 2020

As a malignant narcissistic, the absolute worst thing that could ever happen to him is to prove himself a "loser".

I think he's going to pull out all the stops, and that he is extremely dangerous right now.

There are some things that he just doesn't understand about humans, and that's the reason for many of his errors. Doesn't mean he's planning on losing though.

Cosmo Blues

(2,484 posts)
31. Yes
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:43 PM
Sep 2020

But I said the same thing in 2016. Alienating behavior and words yet... now it just amazes me that the blind cannot see

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
35. He fears nothing more
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:59 AM
Sep 2020

then being seen as a loser. A loss in 2016 could have been written off, he was new to politics and started as a huge underdog. A loss in 2020, now that he's proven it's entirely possible, can't be written off. In 2020 it's all on him, he will have failed and lost when the stakes were at their highest. The lasting public image of him will be him getting tossed, figuratively and quite possibly literally from the White House. That kind of public embarrassment will haunt him for the rest of his life. That is what he fears most.

In It to Win It

(8,251 posts)
36. He can't help it. He's a dick
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:22 AM
Sep 2020

He’s a natural dick. He grew up being a dick. His attitude was enabled by his own family. They never humbled him.

He made a career and made hundreds of millions being a dick. Being a dick got him to where he is... and cheating.

He’s incapable of not being a dick.

Frankly, I don’t think he was trying to win the first time.

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