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Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:08 PM Sep 2020

Trumpers seem to be losing it lately. I think distance learning & having to spend time w their kids

are making them go crazy.

I find this interesting...in my women's FB group, all the democratic moms seem to be ok with distance learning. We know it's not optimal (duh) but safety first. These women are pushing kids to go back to school even if safe metrics have not been met. And are now all riled up bc teachers don't want to risk their lives in a classroom setting. Teachers were heroes. Now they are the devil bc they don't want to do their jobs so that precious Johnny can experience in person schooling bc he is having such a hard time at home. I don't understand this bc we are doing the same exact thing and my kids aren't losing their shit. I teach my kids life isn't perfect so go with the flow. Make lemonade out of lemons. SHOW SOME GRIT. I give my kids coping tools and they are doing great. I'm not bragging. I'm just saying this is what you're supposed to do as parents. And clearly, I'm not the only one. The democratic moms are all reporting about the same.

But these conservative moms seem to be losing their minds w the distance learning. It's like they all hate being with their kids. And god forbid they are inconvenienced in ANY way. Some of us think it is bc distance learning, while it is safe, also encroaches on their lulemon wearing yoga time.

This is a huge subject where I am.

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Trumpers seem to be losing it lately. I think distance learning & having to spend time w their kids (Original Post) Vivienne235729 Sep 2020 OP
Well written. Nothing like others giving their lives to make a living, while they are being the... SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #1
I hear you! Obviously AleksS Sep 2020 #2
THAT'S exactly what my friend said to me. she thinks it's really the parents who aren't doing well. Vivienne235729 Sep 2020 #13
I think CONservatives are unhappy in general. fleur-de-lisa Sep 2020 #3
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #17
Well, they seem to be such an angry bamagal62 Sep 2020 #4
True and I can't imagine living w that level of anger and hate for so long. Vivienne235729 Sep 2020 #19
Their kids are probably shitty people too. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #5
+1 Nevilledog Sep 2020 #6
the old saw onethatcares Sep 2020 #7
I think this is a %age of people too regardless of policial affiliation Vivienne235729 Sep 2020 #14
They have the impending doom of Trump's loss on top of all the other stresses Amishman Sep 2020 #8
Narcissistic mothers I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #9
apple...tree... Claire Oh Nette Sep 2020 #10
omgoodness. Yes!!! No word whatsoever about "failing schools". Vivienne235729 Sep 2020 #15
Mmm, yeah my Dem buddy is losing his mind callous taoboy Sep 2020 #11
I hear a lot of discussion about how the kids are losing out because they Squinch Sep 2020 #12
I hear that too. We talked about this extensively yesterday. People are just so self absorbed, Vivienne235729 Sep 2020 #18
Ken vs Karen roman88 Sep 2020 #16

SWBTATTReg

(22,121 posts)
1. Well written. Nothing like others giving their lives to make a living, while they are being the...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:14 PM
Sep 2020

hypocrites in the room, acting like nothing is going on, etc. Talk about having their heads in the sand.

No one wants to be exposed to this virus in any way, shape or form. I know this for my SO is forced to work in an 'essential' job (a retail environment, yeah, right, essential) so if you want my opinion, the people shopping these retail outlets for non-essential crap while this epidemic is raging can go jump in the lake.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
2. I hear you! Obviously
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:24 PM
Sep 2020

everyone is different, but my kid is doing just fine with virtual school, and it seems like the divide between kids losing their shit vs. kids coping and making the best out of it seems to follow a political boundary. I wonder how much of the kids’ troubles are coming from the parents.


GOP motto: Pro life, until it’s mildly inconvenient.

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
13. THAT'S exactly what my friend said to me. she thinks it's really the parents who aren't doing well.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

Our kids are all on private group discussion board and group texts. They interact w each other all day. They're ok. It's the parents that are having hissy fits.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
3. I think CONservatives are unhappy in general.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:27 PM
Sep 2020

Don't like themselves.

Don't like their spouses, kids, families.

Don't like their lives.

But it's easier to sit around and gripe instead of making positive changes.

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
19. True and I can't imagine living w that level of anger and hate for so long.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:19 PM
Sep 2020

And right now, it has been revved up to maximum level. It has to be hard to process that degree of anger

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. Their kids are probably shitty people too.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Sep 2020

Shitty parents often produce shitty kids. The Turd family is a prime example, starting with Grandpa Turd, draft dodger and pimp, then Old Turd, real estate thief, Donald Turd, thief of everything, then Donald Turd Junior and Princess Turd - worthless in every way.

I know some kids manage to overcome terrible parenting, but statistically, I would assume Trumpers are terrible parents and have terrible kids.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
7. the old saw
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

"kids learn what they live" is never more appropriate than here.

It takes an exceptional person to be a teacher and to that type of person I raise a toast.

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
14. I think this is a %age of people too regardless of policial affiliation
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:58 PM
Sep 2020

Either they didn't raise their kids right and are now reaping what they have sown, or their kids are just assholes despite their parents efforts.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
8. They have the impending doom of Trump's loss on top of all the other stresses
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:56 PM
Sep 2020

Its not easy being a parent right now though no matter what your politics, especially if you have young kids.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
9. Narcissistic mothers
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:06 PM
Sep 2020

Often hate thier kids for having their own minds and needs. Narcissistic mother's hate their kid to say no or ignore an order from the parent.

Control and abuse is their standard. Their kids live in torment.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
10. apple...tree...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:13 PM
Sep 2020

22 years as a middle and high school teacher. One thing is clear:

Kids whose parents value education tend to do well. Kids whose parents don't value education don't. Kids whose parent value education will do what they need to to help their children distance learn. Kids whose parents view the public school system as free babysitting are the ones insisting the kids return to school.

Those who shouted the loudest about the "Failing" public schools are now clamoring for them to open, hold sporting events, and "get back to normal." Funny, I don't hear about the failing schools at all anymore.

Had we mitigated and contained and shut things down and kept them shut for 12 weeks, we'd be back to school. We did all that shelter in place to buy time for testing an dcontact tracing that the Federal government failed to create.

This is all yours, GOP.....

There is no normal anymore.

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
15. omgoodness. Yes!!! No word whatsoever about "failing schools".
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:05 PM
Sep 2020

It's interesting, I have asked them that since education is SO impirtant at this specific moment, forcing teachers and kids to go back to in-person schooling will put them at risk for getting covid. What are they going to do if the teachers get sick? Who will teach their kids then? We all know who. It will be the janitor/class monitor bc there is a huge teacher shortage here in AZ. But no one really answered my question.

callous taoboy

(4,585 posts)
11. Mmm, yeah my Dem buddy is losing his mind
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:34 PM
Sep 2020

but then he is dealing with a 14 year old daughter who is, frankly, not pleasant to be around. He's not speaking to me right now since I refused him a visit to my pad for the night for a respite during the pandemic.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
12. I hear a lot of discussion about how the kids are losing out because they
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:41 PM
Sep 2020

need to take a year off from seeing their friends regularly. People talking about how it is going to damage them. How terrible the teachers are because they don't want to contract a deadly disease.

None of those people seem to be wondering how it will damage the children when they bring home Covid and kill mom or dad or grandma.



Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
18. I hear that too. We talked about this extensively yesterday. People are just so self absorbed,
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:13 PM
Sep 2020

they don't care. There is zero empathy. I also hear how teachers are essential workers. But no response when I asked them who dies if they don't go back to work? No one answered the question. Now, granted tgere are some high risk kids that staying home is a true risk to their life due to abuse and negligence. But in AZ we have covered them. Those high risk kids have been meeting in person in a classroom w monitors (doing distance learning). That's an entirely different case than the kid who misses his friends and teachers.

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