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George II

(67,782 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:14 PM Sep 2020

Historian finds German decree banishing Trump's grandfather (note: this is about 3 years old):

Royal decree ordered Friedrich Trump to leave Bavaria and never come back after he failed to do military service



A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trump’s grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back.

Friedrich Trump, a German, was issued with the document in February 1905, and ordered to leave the kingdom of Bavaria within eight weeks as punishment for having failed to do mandatory military service and failing to give authorities notice of his departure to the US when he first emigrated in 1885.

Roland Paul, a historian from Rhineland-Palatinate who found the document in local archives, told the tabloid Bild: “Friedrich Trump emigrated from Germany to the USA in 1885. However, he failed to de-register from his homeland and had not carried out his military service, which is why the authorities rejected his attempt at repatriation.”

The decree orders the “American citizen and pensioner Friedrich Trump” to leave the area “at the very latest on 1 May ... or else expect to be deported”. Bild called the archive find an “unspectacular piece of paper”, that had nevertheless “changed world history”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree


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Historian finds German decree banishing Trump's grandfather (note: this is about 3 years old): (Original Post) George II Sep 2020 OP
Thanks, Germany. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #1
Bears out what I thought. Not claiming chain-of-evidence status: UTUSN Sep 2020 #2
I just followed this up in a separate OP the Guardian report about trump's grandfather pleading... George II Sep 2020 #4
A traitor in a family of traitors. TexasTowelie Sep 2020 #3
Let me correct you - the douche doesn't fall far from the bag. George II Sep 2020 #5
He had already left but wanted to come back and they wouldn't let him in. Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #6
Fuck them all treasonous bastards. K&R SpaceNeedle Sep 2020 #7

UTUSN

(70,691 posts)
2. Bears out what I thought. Not claiming chain-of-evidence status:
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:26 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214020007
Theory about SHITLER's and his likewise hateful father's hatred for the military

I usually do my research and my homework, but anybody interested might chip in with that. I mean, 3+ years ago I was big on the DRUMPF thing and learned about the grandfather's bordellos and deportation (from Germany), and how he wrote cravenly beseeching letters to German big-wigs to let him back over there, and it was something about his having dodged military service? And he was turned down.

So I'm thinking grandpa inculcated hatred for the military into Old Shitler Fred who then spread it into SHITLER?

***** It's a separate issue that SHITLER can't stand people who are honorable, accomplished, have integrity and standing.








George II

(67,782 posts)
4. I just followed this up in a separate OP the Guardian report about trump's grandfather pleading...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:30 PM
Sep 2020

...to be permitted to stay in Bavaria.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214022351

Donald Trump's grandfather fought expulsion from Germany, letter reveals - video report

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
6. He had already left but wanted to come back and they wouldn't let him in.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 12:36 PM
Sep 2020

Returning on a visit to Kallstadt in 1901, Trump fell in love with Elisabeth Christ, whom he married a year later, returning with her to the US. But when she became homesick and wanted to return to Germany, the authorities blocked his attempts to settle there.

In an effort to overturn the royal decree dated 27 February 1905, Trump wrote an obsequious letter appealing to Prince Regent Luitpold, addressing him as “the much-loved, noble, wise and righteous sovereign and sublime ruler”.

But the prince rejected the appeal and the Trumps left Germany for New York with their daughter on the Hapag steamship Pennsylvania on 1 July 1905. Elisabeth was three months pregnant with Donald Trump’s father, Fred.

Residents of Kallstadt, a small wine-growing town of about 1,200 people in south-west Germany, joke that the blame for Trump becoming US president-elect lies with the German authorities who threw his grandfather out. They have so far shown little enthusiasm for claiming the businessman turned politician as their own.

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