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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:36 AM Sep 2020

Rumor has it that Trump's campaign is broke, but I suspect that it's a strategy.

It is being widely reported that the Trump-campaign has been scaling back on TV-ads. For example in Arizona, the Trump-campaign isn't running any ads at all.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/4/1975137/-The-Trump-campaign-is-broke

This could have two reasons:
1. They are broke.
2. They are hoarding their cash in order to spend it with one MASSIVE ad-campaign right before the election.



Here's why I think its No. 2: We have seen this campaign-strategy before.

In the 2008 republican primary, Rudy Giuliani used this strategy. You know, the Has-Been who desperately clings to Trump for political relevance. It's not unbelievable to think that Rudy Giuliani proposed this strategy to Trump.
"The biggest presidential ad-campaign ever! It could be yours! The ad-campaign to end all ad-campaigns!"



Btw, did it work for Giuliani in 2008?
No.
Holding off for so long cost him precious campaign-momentum and media-presence.
By the time his campaign-onslaught started, most primary-voters had already made up their mind. And not in his favor.







I think it would be super-funny if Rudy Giuliani's campaign-advice would ultimately cost Trump the 2020 election.

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Rumor has it that Trump's campaign is broke, but I suspect that it's a strategy. (Original Post) DetlefK Sep 2020 OP
Not broke! madashelltoo Sep 2020 #1
I'm looking forward to hearing him tell the MAGAts to skip meals Rorey Sep 2020 #2
Or they could Turbineguy Sep 2020 #4
"So, you'll make a $10,000 donation to Trump's campaign if I sell my heart?" gratuitous Sep 2020 #22
The orange menace has been in front of American voters nonstop since he won, and he won't shut SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #3
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #28
I think the word is embezzled. C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #5
There's a third reason. ooky Sep 2020 #6
Agree. 33taw Sep 2020 #8
That seems more likely. In his mind this is his money. Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #17
This!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #21
+1 2naSalit Sep 2020 #27
+1 JustGene Sep 2020 #33
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #35
They claim to be broke to better fleece their donors. Laelth Sep 2020 #7
Early voting is starting...he has pulled his ads from Ohio too ...we had them up quite a bit now Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #9
Hell, I've been getting tons of emails from Dems screaming all kinds of desperate claims... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #10
Trump knows he is going to lose; he intends to keep the money for himself. Doug.Goodall Sep 2020 #11
There was a story that Trump is using the donor cash for lots of legal fees--and while other riversedge Sep 2020 #12
More than likely he's been embezzling money out of it duforsure Sep 2020 #13
He's going to rip off Republican donors just before the election. kentuck Sep 2020 #14
link to latest FEC filing for trump campaign thru August beachbumbob Sep 2020 #15
They have so much money they have been matching 700%. keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #16
The 800% matching will be done by... Silent3 Sep 2020 #19
Creative bookkeeping. keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #25
They May Be As They Have Been Stuck Paying THe Legal Fees For THe Entire Family Me. Sep 2020 #18
There is no "right before the election" - people will start voting in October themaguffin Sep 2020 #20
Wife and I will be voting Dave in VA Sep 2020 #24
They said the same thing in 16 Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #23
Trump has Super PACs and other places that can run ads, no? NewJeffCT Sep 2020 #26
"Broke" may be too rosy a description. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #29
NYT reports $58.6 million spent on legal fees Loge23 Sep 2020 #30
He lied about being broke and bankrupt when he was divorcing Marla Maples. nt live love laugh Sep 2020 #31
How about they are all grifters and everyone is trying to get as much as they can for themselves JI7 Sep 2020 #32
Not sure how they can afford to run anti-Biden ads every other commercial break here GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #34

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. I'm looking forward to hearing him tell the MAGAts to skip meals
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:40 AM
Sep 2020

So they can send him what they save.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. "So, you'll make a $10,000 donation to Trump's campaign if I sell my heart?"
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:31 AM
Sep 2020

"It'll grow back, right?"

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
3. The orange menace has been in front of American voters nonstop since he won, and he won't shut
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:42 AM
Sep 2020

up. Americans are sick and tired of seeing his fat a&& face on TV. Thus, ad buys are worthless (because he is way overdone, way over-exposed) AND he's ripping the money off to save his businesses and his a&&. Simple.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. +1000
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:28 PM
Sep 2020


Also, his lies and charachter defamation aren't sticking anymore. Even his most hardcore supporters know he's a liar, they just don't care. And nobody else believes a word he says. He's like the boy who cried wolf. Nobody's buying his bullshit anymore.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
6. There's a third reason.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:44 AM
Sep 2020

He knows he's going to lose and plans to keep the money he still has left for his slush fund.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
17. That seems more likely. In his mind this is his money.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:21 AM
Sep 2020

Plus he probably needs it. What he'll do is tease a 2024 run so that he can start Trump TV and use the campaign funds.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
7. They claim to be broke to better fleece their donors.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:52 AM
Sep 2020

Always playing the victim is Trump. All the better to part people from their money.

-Laelth

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
9. Early voting is starting...he has pulled his ads from Ohio too ...we had them up quite a bit now
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:54 AM
Sep 2020

none. Joe is blanketing social media and TV...I think' it' is broke.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
10. Hell, I've been getting tons of emails from Dems screaming all kinds of desperate claims...
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:56 AM
Sep 2020

I kind of ignore most of them. I give when and where I can.

But I do hear a lot of doom and gloom from various campaigns and candidates. I hang in there.

I figure Trump is selling shit again. It's what he does.

Doug.Goodall

(1,241 posts)
11. Trump knows he is going to lose; he intends to keep the money for himself.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:56 AM
Sep 2020

I believe left over campaign cash belongs to the candidate. Trump wants a nice big check as a going away present (or maybe to cover his legal bills).

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
12. There was a story that Trump is using the donor cash for lots of legal fees--and while other
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:07 AM
Sep 2020

Presidents have done this--the huge amounts spent on lawyers in beyond the pale.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
13. More than likely he's been embezzling money out of it
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:11 AM
Sep 2020

Into his pockets because he's broke and can't pay his russian friends and putin . Bankruptcy in the near future? If he thinks his company will have everything frozen from criminal charges when he's ousted maybe he has devised a way to keep or shield it from being taken? He does have moles feeding him information within the DOJ.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
14. He's going to rip off Republican donors just before the election.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:16 AM
Sep 2020

He will use it as his personal slush fund.

He doesn't need campaign funds. He gets all the free media he needs from the M$M.

Also, it is very probable that he is laundering Russian money thru the RNC.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
15. link to latest FEC filing for trump campaign thru August
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:19 AM
Sep 2020

I hate opinion and such that do not indicate ACTUAL numbers and kinda asked 2 or 3 times about it



https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1434701/

$120,550,919.51 cash on hand at end of the month doesn't look like a campaign broke

$322,981,456.80 how MUCH trump campaign has spent year to date to behind 10 points is a great investment right?

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
16. They have so much money they have been matching 700%.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:19 AM
Sep 2020

They have so much money they have been matching 700%.

(As if that can be believed)

Now it is 800%, for one hour.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

They don't seem to say who is doing the matching.

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
19. The 800% matching will be done by...
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:26 AM
Sep 2020

...the next eight people who donate, and the matching for those eight people will be done by the next 64 people who donate, etc.

It's a campaign donation Ponzi scheme!

Me.

(35,454 posts)
18. They May Be As They Have Been Stuck Paying THe Legal Fees For THe Entire Family
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:25 AM
Sep 2020

and other things such as changing convention location .

Giuliani didn't lose because of that strategy, he lost because no one wanted him. Just as when he tried for a 3rd term in NYC right after 9/11 and NYers said NO.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
29. "Broke" may be too rosy a description.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Sep 2020

They may be deep in the hole, owing many, having not enough to pay their debts.

And, they may be in debt to "the wrong people": people who don't understand forgiveness of debts, even under a ruling of bankruptcy status. People who are knowledgeable about the terminal velocity of an object of fifth-floor defenestration. People knowledgeable about nerve agents in tea or in diet Coke. People knowledgeable about the administration of polonium.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
30. NYT reports $58.6 million spent on legal fees
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 01:35 PM
Sep 2020

An article in today's Times by Eric Lipton details some $58.6 million that has been spent by the GOP on the many, many lawsuits that the IPOTUS is continually involved in.
That's ongoing - and that's a lot of cash. Has to leave a mark, a red one, on the books eventually.
I have long wondered about this and Mr. Lipton's reporting shines a light on how the GOP uses campaign funding to pay for the mountains of legal bills the fraud incurs.
Besides the trump crime family's immediate members, the GOP has paid legal fees for Hope Hicks (the president's fantasy girl), the infamous Cory Lewandowski, former bodyguard/valet Keith Schiller, and noted professional liar and suck-up Boris Epshteyn.
This is what the GOP does now that it has surrendered all vestiges of it's legitimacy (if it ever had any) in blind support of a two-bit con, criminal, and wannabe dictator.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
34. Not sure how they can afford to run anti-Biden ads every other commercial break here
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:22 AM
Sep 2020

if they're broke. Granted, the production on the ads is so shoddy, they look like they likely didn't cost much to make.

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