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OneBro

(1,159 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:05 PM Sep 2020

Creeped out? Yes. Disgusted? Yup. Shocked? Not even a little bit.

At this point there is nothing I could learn about Trump that would leave me shocked. Nothing. The news might be video of Trump, three Russian hookers (all eunuchs) and a billy goat sitting traumatized in a corner while wearing a strap-on stamped "TRUMP TOWER", and it would NOT shock me. Trump is and always has been a depraved, entitled, soul-less, self-centered human being who has never experienced a moment of empathy or compassion for another person.

There was a time when I was shocked by evangelical's continued, unwavering support of Trump, but I've even made peace with and accepted that reality.

In short, accept the McConnells and Grahams and Huckabees of the world as they have shown themselves to be over and over and over again, and life will soon be a lot less . . . shocking.

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OneBro

(1,159 posts)
13. Enablers.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 04:11 PM
Sep 2020

At least in regards to dictators, from Hitler to Hussein, none of them could have done it without a cadre of enablers (and apathy). I have zero doubt that, given the opportunity, if Trump, Graham, McConnell, Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham etc. and their followers thought they could get away with extrajudicial killings and appointing Trump for life, they would not hesitate to do so.

cilla4progress

(24,728 posts)
14. Absolutely.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 04:26 PM
Sep 2020

I mean - isn't that what is happening now?

Also imprisonment: Obama, Hillary, Maddow.

Wait for it.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
3. Would MF45 raping a young girl on tape change his supporters minds?
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:09 PM
Sep 2020

Sadly I doubt it as they would blame the little girl for not submitting!

BComplex

(8,049 posts)
5. Which is what I strongly suspect is exactly what russia has on him.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:13 PM
Sep 2020

There's too much history with those two, and trump said to Epstein ON VIDEO that he liked the girls on the "young side".

All those children who have gone missing from their cages at the border are not on holiday.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
7. My biggest fear is he sex trafficked those children and we'll find mass graves when he's gone
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:27 PM
Sep 2020

I think it’s really interesting last week the US put new sanctions on the International criminal court ( The Hague]. I think they know he is being investigated and he’s trying to stop it. it was really underreported. I read a small article in my local paper but didn’t hear it reported on the news. I wonder why?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54003527


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-us-sanctions-on-international-tribunal-prosecutor-aide/ar-BB18DIY7

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
8. Maybe you should make this an OP. I had never heard of it before. The US sanctioning
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

entities that are looking at it for war crimes?

That's amazing and horrifying. Bush and Cheney and friends should have been prosecuted.

Faux pas

(14,672 posts)
15. I
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 04:40 PM
Sep 2020

thought that way back when he first started having them caged. Everyone around the hump is a deviant in one form or another.

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
16. They'd call it "fake news", of course
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 04:47 PM
Sep 2020

No matter how unrealistic that claim might be, no matter who vouched for the authenticity of the video, believing in super-powerful video forgery techniques and that every single person who claimed it was real was anti-Trump, lying, paid off, threatened, or all of the above, would be easier than accepting the truth.

And if in any corner of their minds they suspected the video might be real, they'd be working on ways to justify it as a backup plan.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. 40 years of ever-more depraved television shows and movies (and news) have desensitized the
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:14 PM
Sep 2020

population.

Don't get me wrong, I'm binge-watching American Horror Story this week, but this kind of stuff doesn't change my moral compass.

By now so many of us have seen so much crime and murder and rape and gunfights and serial killers and war and blood and gore and prostitution and drug use and gang killings and mob killings and bank robberies and kidnappings and con capers and ...

As Perry Farrell said ... Nothing's Shocking.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
9. I suspect you're right, but humans have always been "entertained" by gore, sex, and war/killing.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:45 PM
Sep 2020

The Bible is chock full of incest, mass murder, rape and destruction. From "Birth of a Nation" to Willie Horton and welfare queens, right-wing media has very effectively weaponized fear, rage and sex to the point that they can turn their outrage machines on and off as needed, and point them in whatever direction as needed.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. What shocks me is his enablers in the Senate
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020

It really does. It means that they’re as culpable as he is in whatever they give him a pass on.

Corruption doesn’t shock me. The level and depth of corruption does.

How many decades has it been going on? Is it really bad only now or has it been like this much longer?

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
11. Yup. Even when there's video.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:59 PM
Sep 2020

Few things paint a picture as clear as the video of Graham arguing for Clinton's impeachment compared to the video of Graham arguing against Trump's impeachment. For Trump and his supporters, it isn't about right and wrong, it's about power and a devout love of money.

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