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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome wonder why many here do not care for Michael Moore. It is because of comments like this
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Can someone tell me which Democrat asked Michael Moore to lie for him?
Thekaspervote
(32,792 posts)You lied plenty about Biden during the primary, get off your high horse and go away
still_one
(92,381 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)with a comment like that!...WOW! Live & learn!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Cha
(297,601 posts)some fucking attention.
JI7
(89,263 posts)that's why he is blaming Obama for the water in flint.
Cha
(297,601 posts)He cares NOTHING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY OR PLANET.
JI7
(89,263 posts)right now.
George II
(67,782 posts)Enterstageleft
(3,398 posts)You don't ever have to lie for Biden, just tell the truth about all of the rePugs.
oasis
(49,403 posts)Yavin4
(35,445 posts)To them, politics is about their own ego gratification than it is about actually building long-lasting coalitions to fight the rising Fascism of the Republicans.
Moore's quote here is proof of this. He's more concerned about some slight from the Biden campaign than he is about defeating Fascism.
There won't be any future elections if Biden loses, not ones that we recognize.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)JI7
(89,263 posts)Michael Moore is a racist and wants Biden to lose .
https://mobile.twitter.com/MMFlint/status/1231922071019687936
Cha
(297,601 posts)falsely claimed "Obama would only be remembered for being a Black President".
Illumination
(2,458 posts)racist mouth & his eccentric personality!
Hekate
(90,787 posts)JI7
(89,263 posts)and tend to be grifters.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)fame starts to wane. Relevance must be a hard thing to lose, especially when your claim to fame is making some very timely, highly acclaimed documentaries, followed by a bomb. Like Ralph Nader. Is he still alive?
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)Ive never cared for Michael Moore but he seems to have gotten much worse as he gets less and less relevant. A narcissist who cant stand that no one cares what he has to say.
Thekaspervote
(32,792 posts)DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)I saw in in the theater in 2004 and remember how disappointed I was in the movie. George W. Bush didn't cause 9/11, but he was so grossly negligent in allowing it to happen that it was almost the same thing as being a part of it. Moore didn't come close in scratching the surface of the real issues in 9/11 and the fake Iraq war.
Michael Moore's paltry analysis in this movie was pathetic. I have absolutely no trust in him on anything. I used to, but no longer.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Don't like what he said and then retroactively bash back to beginning of time? Rewrite history?
Saw F9-11 on opening night in DC. Standing ovation when it was over.
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 7, 2020, 07:20 AM - Edit history (1)
Thanks for being a Michael Moore defender!
He did not come close to talking about the failures of W. What exactly did he say in the movie that was not already known? There was so much more to talk about, all of which has been buried.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)get in but had to be escorted by an adult. It was quite popular at the time.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)Useful to those who don't follow the news, but nothing new to anyone who had. I was expecting something that I didn't already know.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Who mistreats employees and doesn't pay his bills. Begging for attention.
JI7
(89,263 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)Steve & Michael always look like something the cat dragged in from the back alley...
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)The famed documentarian, whose new film Fahrenheit 11/9 is out this month, stands accused of not only failing to pay his film-fest bills, but smearing his vendors in the press.
Apparently, Michael Moore is struggling to reconcile his revolutionary brand with his status as a famous, wealthy filmmaker. Simultaneously, critics of the documentarian are calling hypocrisy, insisting that Moores conduct is at odds with his reputation as a champion of the people.
In early June, Boston Light & Sound, Inc. filed a lawsuit against Moores Traverse City Film Festival. In the claim, BL&S stated that a total payment of $256,500 had been due by September 30, 2017, for their work on the 2017 film festival. TCFF paid a $100,0000 deposit towards the Contract Amount on July 12, 2017, legal docs claimed. BL&S performed all of its obligations pursuant to the contract. However, since the 2017 film festival, TCFF has only paid an additional $2,000 toward the outstanding balance owed. That brings the alleged balance down to $159,055.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-moore-accused-of-stiffing-smearing-vendors-all-i-would-like-is-to-be-paid
Basically, Moore and his colleagues have made a film attacking renewable energy as a sham and arguing that the environmental movement is just a tool of corporations trying to make money off green energy. One of the most dangerous things right now is the illusion that alternative technologies, like wind and solar, are somehow different from fossil fuels, Ozzie Zehner, one of the films producers, tells the camera. When visiting a solar facility, he insists: You use more fossil fuels to do this than youre getting benefit from it. You would have been better off just burning the fossil fuels.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/bill-mckibben-climate-movement-michael-moore-993073/
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)JI7
(89,263 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,600 posts)Done.
Willto
(292 posts)As I said in another post with friends like these who needs enemies. I actually think it pisses Moore off that Biden is looking so good in the polls. He seems to love when Democratic candidates lose.
If he can't be counted on to set his petty bullshit gripes aside in an election like this where the stakes are literally no less than are we are going to continue to have a democracy as we have known it then to hell with him.
At the end of the day a knife plunged 6 inches deep in your back does the exact same amount of damage whether it was put there by an openly declared enemy or a sneaky rat fu#*er that was supposed to be a friend.
Cha
(297,601 posts)self. MF.
sheshe2
(83,879 posts)The last 59 days? Where the F were ya for the past 3 plus years Mike? And here ya are calling Democrats stupid.
we wont succeed if we have to also fight the Party and the Campaign who seem to be stupidly working against us.
WTFAYTA! Who the hell is us, Mikie?
elleng
(131,084 posts)let's work on splitting progressives/liberals/leftists from those who would support the Democratic ticket.
JI7
(89,263 posts)by blaming Obama for Flint's water.
budkin
(6,713 posts)When he went on late night talk dressed as a Republican and mocked all of us for losing to W.
NNadir
(33,542 posts)I recall that this ass claimed he couldn't tell the difference between Bush and Gore.
Um, or was he lying on behalf of the Republicans?
More than 100,000 dead Iraqis can't either. They're dead. The reason they're dead is because Moore is a pompous ass with a very dysfunctional brain.
UTUSN
(70,729 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Still trying to make Democrats lose.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)JI7
(89,263 posts)Cha
(297,601 posts)his fucking "mind".. & we know what's on his mind.. Treason.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Cha
(297,601 posts)how full of RF SHIT they are.. like MMoore.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)"old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump is." (Sept. 6, 2018) That President Obama didn't do anything about the Flint water crisis. He thinks Trump is an "evil genius" and that Democrats aren't progressive. That Trump voters voted for him because of economic reasons and not, as everyone knows because the data tells us so, on identity -- fear and anger -- because the Republican Party knows people don't like their economic policies. MM gets most things wrong these days.
ihas2stinkyfeet
(1,400 posts)Cha
(297,601 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)acceptable but that was several years ago. Now, I don't have time for his petty bullshit and whining about how Bernie didn't win so his utopia can't happen or some shit.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
he's also an idiot for attacking ByeDON & Harris instead of the trumpet.
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Cha
(297,601 posts)In Fact.. MM should Start TELLING THE TRUTH.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)Bernie was a far left leaning radio show host for KGO radio out of San Francisco. He was nicknamed The Lion of the Left. At the time Bernie had his show, I had a long evening commute and at times would tune in to KGO radio but I couldnt stand to listen to Bernie Ward for more than a few minutes. I couldnt put my finger on why, just felt he was trying to manipulate his viewers and didnt give a damm about whatever left wing battle he was supposedly fighting for. Michael Moore gives me that same vibe.
Anyway, years later Bernie Ward was indicted for distributing child pornography. No,Im not saying MM is a pedophile, but something about him is off putting and insincere. Its all about HIM.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)he probably does not like to see Kamala on the ticket.
peggysue2
(10,839 posts)Lie about what? Working against whom? We are all engaged in a battle for the country's survival, a war we cannot afford to lose. So why does Moore or anyone else on the left think they're involved with a party/campaign working against them? Because they can't get their way all the time, can't run their agenda or whatever?
Get with the survival program, folks. We either win this thing or we all go down. For generations.
I find the stupid whining disgusting, beyond short-sighted.
We fight now so we can fight another day. Anything that dismisses that premise is pure BS.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Michael Moore has the courage to talk about it.
The money and the power of the 1% are rarely mentioned by the politicians I like, support, and donate to.
I wish it wasn't so......
BTW how much a year does a lobbyist make?
More than me..... Waaaaaay more than me.
JI7
(89,263 posts)populations ?
Michael Moore is a racist .
Cha
(297,601 posts)that takes Whole Shitload of "courage".
marble falls
(57,181 posts)anything more he's got to say.
pnwmom
(108,991 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Demsrule86
(68,660 posts)Trump. But in my view he is a 'has been' and should be ignored.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)tests. When accepting people who basically agree with Democratic ideals (although we may not always agree with everything they say) makes so much more sense. Accepting people grows our minds and our big tent.
Demsrule86
(68,660 posts)honestly, he can fuck off. He attacked Gore,Kerry and Clinton. when he is on any network, I turn it off...no interest in listening to his nonsense...he is a only trying to promote himself anyway and hates Democrats IMHO.
Cha
(297,601 posts)Skittles
(153,185 posts)he has become tiresome
Aviation91
(114 posts)And thats fine. I was a Joe Biden supporter. If Bernie had turned out to be the nominee, I was going to be in full support of Bernie. Some of Bernies supporters dont seem to feel the way that I do. They are Bernie or Bust diehards. Nina Turner said voting for Joe Biden or Donald Trump is like eating a half bowl of shit! Her words, not mine! To my knowledge Joe Biden never made any disparaging remarks about Bernie, so why take things out on Joe. It has been the people that found Biden more appealing. Why does Michael Moore feel he needs to lie for Joe Biden? Im just sure he hasnt been asked to lie...so WTF???
pstokely
(10,530 posts)like many other Bernie bros
betsuni
(25,610 posts)And he kept saying that only a celebrity like Oprah or Michelle Obama or Sully the airplane guy could win the election, that a politician couldn't. As if it's a personality thing and if you just got the right popular person then everybody would vote.
Cha
(297,601 posts)run when he's out there still blaming Pres Obama for for Flint? According to a poster on this thread whom I respect.
Moore is a Whacked Ratfucker.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)Ellen Degeneres! Sully Sullenberger, Michelle Obama. Tulsi Gabbard. Tom Hanks. LeBron! Bernie! Oprah! Beto! Streep! Why don't we win for once."
On Trump: "He's so much smarter than our side. ... He's an evil genius, but to not respect how smart he's been in doing this. ... We cannot run a politician. We will lose."
Mr. "I'm always right." LOL. Does he know President Obama won twice? That there was a blue wave in the midterms? That Bernie Sanders is a politician?
Cha
(297,601 posts)MM can't handle he's WRONG once Again.. So he Goes into RATFUCKING Mode.
That's the way I'm looking at it.. I've seen a hateful tweet on Biden before from Moore. He was So Wrong Then.. it was Mean Spirited Dripping with .. right Before ALL HELL Broke LOOSE on him .. he's just a Mean Spirited guy Not giving a shite about our Country Or the Planet.
I've seen this quote before.. thanks for the Reminder. I'm sure Moore would like us to forget all about his big FAIL here.
That's what I mean by "whacked".. he trips himself up with his big Proclamations.. then when he's wrong he Moves on hoping not too many notice.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)He thinks people were mad about NAFTA destroying industrialization (shakes fist at Bill Clinton). Wrong. No evidence trade deals had anything to do with the election, and deindustrialization started many many decades ago and automation is the main cause of job loss.
Democrats have abandoned the working/middle classes in favor of lobbyists from Goldman Sachs. Wrong. President Obama received a record-breaking amount of donations from Wall Street and still regulated financial institutions. Zero evidence Hillary Clinton wouldn't do the same thing.
Hillary will "find a way to get us in some military action" because she's a war hawk to the right of Obama. The Iraq War vote. Kerry, Biden, Edwards, etc., are fine voting for it, but Hillary is personally responsible. She doesn't believe in anything (MM conveniently erasing her whole career working especially for women and children.) She killed the youth vote (LOL did the youth vote come out for Bernie in 2020? NO IT DID NOT.)
People were just being mischievous when they voted for Trump. (NO, they voted for him because of white identity, all the data says so.)
All he got right is there are angry white men out there, which is why he wrote a book in 2001 called "Stupid White Men." This is not new.
Cha
(297,601 posts)be Damned. We've seen this before.
Moore really slipped and showed himself when he Proclaimed "Obama would only be known for being a Black President.."
Michael Moore Slams Obama: HIstory Will Only Remember You Were a Black President ..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10025513223
No Moore.. as much as you wish it to be true.. President Obama will be remembered for being an excellent President.
MM has bush blood & trump blood on his hands already.. and that's not enough for him.
Yeah, Thank you, Moore conveniently erases Hillary's Record & the Proven russian interference & other assorted RF of why trump got rigged in. It's All Hillary's fault.. he's not the only one who did that.. & by Jove 4 years.. Karma came calling.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)Cha
(297,601 posts)SpaceNeedle
(191 posts)or he is a walking time bomb for a coronary.
He should think about his health before the nation or he won't be around until Nov. 3
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)betsuni
(25,610 posts)The emperor has no clothes.
Cha
(297,601 posts)Victoria Brownworth..
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
And, "The Establishment"!
Oh, moore was on chris hayes, of course.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)The big scary diabolical enemy that's the true roadblock to progress and out to get "progressives" by working against them and stupid and rigging and blah blah blah.
Cha
(297,601 posts)Cha
(297,601 posts)the stomach for that now.
As well he should be... It's All Hands On Deck & MMoore is In the WAY
We have an Election to WIN from a nazi enabling FASCIST.
jcgoldie
(11,643 posts)Way to stick it to Trump.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)The magic one that is supposedly the only "health care is a right, not a privilege" and nothing else is universal health care? (Ignoring that Democrats have consistently said that it's a right, not a privilege and have fought hard for universal health care for many decades.)
Or another "Waaah, Teh Centrists aren't doing what we demand! I'm not going to play with you anymore and I'm telling my Mom you were mean to me."
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JI7
(89,263 posts)"the way we and our primary candidate were played" ?
Sanders lost . He Did not do that well in the first 2 states with Pete Buttigieg either beating him or coming close to him . And he had been running for 5 years straight.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)That's what I heard. "Played."
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I do not care what he thinks or has to say. He means nothing to me and neither do his opinions.
roman88
(52 posts)And I say that as a Michigander. A true disgraceful loser
Bettie
(16,124 posts)in recent years, he's gone kind of around the bend, off the rails.