Just on MSNBC: Drug companies release joint statement about COVID vaccine

[Coventina]

They are pledging not to release any vaccine that has not been fully proven to be safe and effective.
They are worried that confidence is very weak and that they need to restore public confidence.

[SWBTATTReg]

1. Good. The idiot POS in the WH is literally promising the moon and a vaccine in Oct. 2020 now.

The entire CV epidemic started (lets say last Nov. 2019?, so at the most 11 months, and they say roughly 18 months minimum, for a vaccine, if successful. 18 months.

The dipshit in the WH is bound and determined to yet kill more people than what he has already (roughly 200K +- by now, w/ the CV). Pardon my language but his incompetence is beyond comparison...and the GOP failed to vet trump, despite having amply warnings, with six different bankruptcies as well as numerous personal stories about trump's ridiculous behavior).

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. But no one started working on a vaccine last November.

March or April of this year would be more like it.

People still don't understand that this is going to last much longer than they think.

[SWBTATTReg]

6. And you're absolutely right! So even less of a lead time to get a working vaccine. Thanks for ...

catching!

[PJMcK]

14. Many people are scientifically illiterate

Too many people discount the sciences and their findings until they need something right away. As an example, look at people's attitudes about global climate change.

They have no understanding of the processes or the difficulties involved. Yet they think the drug companies should have the vaccine by now! Stupid people, mostly.

[llmart]

36. True, but...

he's a stable genius and he's probably been working on his own vaccine since before anyone knew there was a pandemic.

[Pachamama]

2. They know that the vaccine will fail and be worthless & refused if the Mango Mussolini promises and

...promotes falsehoods and creates doubt and fear....

Even the drug manufacturers want to distance themselves and are turning on Trump...

[efhmc]

3. I believe I know why that is and how it can be remedied.

Every one in and around DJT including DJT himself publicly takes the vaccine and then we wait to see what happens when DJT is exposed to as many people as possible with the virus.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

4. I wonder if Trump will simply order the drug companies to produce the vaccine?

Given that he clearly believes he has unlimited power, I rather expect he'll do that. And then the drug companies will tell him to stick that order where the sun don't shine. It could get quite interesting.

[drray23]

8. I think he will instead get on the phone with Putin and get some of the russian vaccine.

which obviously will be roundly rejected by most americans.

[MyOwnPeace]

32. So when the drug companies........

"tell him to stick that order where the sun don't shine........."

..........the first two recipients of the vaccine will be "Dear Lindsey" and Matt Gaetz?

[agingdem]

7. Big Pharma: "not gonna save your ass Donnie but thanks for the tax break"...

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I was flipping through an old magazine and I noticed most of the ads were for prescription drugs...heartburn, hypertension, allergies, etc.. later it occurred to me that 3/4 of those drugs had been pulled off the market because of dangerous side-effects...a rushed-to-market covid vaccine with the high possibility of catastrophic side-effects is ok with the Donnie the Dung Heap as long it buys him 4 more years...

[Hekate]

9. That's a bit of self interest on their part, I would think

[DFW]

10. I think what worries them most is something else

If they release a vaccine on the public without exhaustive trials, and instead of protecting people against Covid-19, instead it makes them grow antlers, they don‘t want to handle the lawsuits.

[GoCubsGo]

22. Yup. That, and they fear being tarred with someone else's screw-up.

Most people aren't going to distinguish one company's vaccine from another. If one company puts out a quack vaccine, all anyone is going to see is "dangerous vaccine." The pubic won't care who is the guilty party, and they'll blame all the manufacturers. They're all going to suffer for it, and they know it.

[ProfessorGAC]

41. +1

And the risk rises exponentially if shortcuts are taken. It would be foolish business to rush to market.
It's not like pharma didn't makes billions in profit before PINO usurped the job.
They're going to make $ no matter who is POTUS.

[Cryptoad]

11. The Orange Prick will,,,,

make them an Offer they can't refuse!

[C_U_L8R]

12. They know T-Rump is gonna lose.

Covering their asses for all contingencies.

[DallasNE]

13. Now What Could Have Made Confidence "Very Weak"?

Oh, never mind.

(Twitter, you have a problem).

[kairos12]

15. Don't believe a word of it. They

already took President Bleach’s money. They are all ENRON.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Good for them

[Lonestarblue]

17. I'm a bit skeptical.

Purdue Pharma also promised doctors and patients that opioids were safe and not addictive. We have seen the results of those safety claims with the thousands of deaths each year from opioid overdose.

Vaccine developers have a couple of reasons to rush trials. One is being first to market and raking in hundreds of millions of dollars already promised by Trump. Will a President Biden follow through or insist on more extensive testing? Vaccine makers may be seeing their chance to get millions in government money more likely under Trump, so they need it on the market in case he loses.

The second reason may be less obvious. How many of these CEOs are Trump donors and want his reelection because of taxes and because he has promised to keep getting rid of regulations? Imagine drug companies with no liability for damages to consumers who use an unsafe product. Mitch McConnell has already tried to get rid of business liability for forcing workers to be in an unsafe environment because of Covid. We don’t know what Trump has promised these CEOs in return for this favor to him if they say a safe vaccine is available in late October. Trump is known for his quid pro quo shenanigans.

Perhaps I’m just being pessimistic, but vaccine trials need to take months, not weeks.

[pnwmom]

18. I won't believe that unless it has gone through complete Phase 3 trials,

not ended prematurely because it appeared so safe and effective.

[Warpy]

19. Translation: "We don't wanna get SUED"

The fallout from the swine flu vaccine went on for years. That's the last time they allowed one to be rushed out ahead of full scale safety testing and data analysis.

[SergeStorms]

28. Trump and the DOJ will give them blanket immunity...

from all legal repercussions. That will certainly enhance peoples' confidence in the vaccine.

[MyOwnPeace]

33. And there's nobody that can stop

that "One-Two Dynamic Duo" from doing just that.
However, since it would have to be by Executive Order and the DOJ putting their head deep underground (or WAY up Donnie's A$$ - oh, wait, the DOJ is already there!), a new administration and Attorney General would probably be able to stop that "promise of immunity" since there was no Congressional action regarding such immunity - and I don't think ANY congressional person would go near that with a 10-foot poll!

[Warpy]

40. I honestly don't think they'll take that stinkbait

because as soon as Barr is out of office, work will proceed to overturn all his illegal actions while putting his corrupt ass in prison.

[SayItLoud]

20. The companies don't want to be sued. NT

[idziak4ever1234]

21. Let me guess: fake medicine?

[yaesu]

23. they should be worried, the orange nazi tainted the process, may need to throw the whole batch out

and start over Jan 22 before people trust it.

[SergeStorms]

24. I believe Pharmaceutical companies just about...

as much as I believe Trump himself. So that "joint statement" is somewhat less reassuring than they intended, at least as far as I'm concerned. I'll have to read the scientific data to be reassured, and even then I'll have my doubts, because pharmaceutical companies have been less than honest at times.

[ProfessorGAC]

42. The Statement Is A Force...

...to prevent the signers, and others not yet signing it from going rogue and capitalizing on egregious risk taking.
I find it far more positive than many here.

[Squinch]

25. Yep. They very much do need to restore confidence.

[infullview]

26. he's going for ultra wide distribution of the my pillow guy cure

[AllyCat]

27. Yes! A rushed ineffective or worse, dangerous vaccine

Will destroy public confidence in ALL vaccines.

[Pepsidog]

29. So many great responses. P

[AlexSFCA]

30. can you truly trust that big pharma has your best interests

[uponit7771]

38. +1, especially with the pump and dumps with earlier announcements

[Baclava]

31. and......October Surprise! It will be good to go, I bet some arms be twisted

[James48]

34. The vaccine that is going to work best

Is still in the early stages. It’s froma company called VBI Vaccines, a small company out of Boston area.

They are working on a 3-disease vaccine, and should enter Stage 1 trials in about a month. They won’t make it to stage 3 completion until next year, but early indication are that there model is much more effective at developing antibodies tha. The vaccines by others already announced.

We shall see AFTER the new President is sworn in.

[noneof_theabove]

35. Don't forget

The drug companies have complete and comprehensive immunity from
any and all side effects, not being useful and up to and including the patients death and or disfigurement.

reference:
https://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/March-2011/No-Pharma-Liability--No-Vaccine-Mandates-.aspx

Most drugs take 7-10 years before getting on the market.

We will have this shoved down our throats [no pun intended] like it or not.

Same as no vaccines, no school for your kids.

[llmart]

37. Recent polling shows that less than 30% of the public...

would be willing to take the vaccine if it came out that early. The majority of people like myself will wait until clinical trials are completed and it's been proven effective. I won't be a guinea pig for anyone, especially not the orange ignoramus.

[Nitram]

39. The fact is, with all his attempts to portray himself as a superior businessman, Trump doesn't

have a clue what it takes to run a successful business. He's always in it for the quick ripoff profit, and then he's on to his next scam. Pharmaceutical companies depend on the trust of their clients.

[bucolic_frolic]

43. Yeah, but are they testing bleach and adderal?

you know, the bone spurs remedy.

[Dukkha]

44. The most effective vaccine will come on election day

Eradicate the White House of it's plague of stupidity so real progress can be made to flatten the curve.