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I'd love to run into Kornacki on the street. (Original Post) PCIntern Sep 2020 OP
Its a good thing you keep watching him so you know how bad he is... brooklynite Sep 2020 #1
+1000! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #5
Flawed premise. One doesn't need to "keep watching" in order to know he's a spastic butthole... NurseJackie Sep 2020 #24
I somehow doubt that the OP woke up this morning and decided to share this perspective... brooklynite Sep 2020 #27
Lol. cwydro Sep 2020 #44
He's no king PJMcK Sep 2020 #2
He's not the worst by any means, just one of the most irritating. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #3
He manages to get on my nerves more PCIntern Sep 2020 #7
Another DUer referred to him as "Tigger" COLGATE4 Sep 2020 #55
LOL, I'm sure he would not give a shit. He is ok IMO! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #4
He's spewing this crap about Chump winning, with no real rationale for that claim. MoonRiver Sep 2020 #6
You Think He's Bad? jayfish Sep 2020 #8
She's a prune. PCIntern Sep 2020 #9
A prune? cwydro Sep 2020 #45
It could be a compliment. Dagstead Bumwood Sep 2020 #85
never watch Ms. Greenspan demtenjeep Sep 2020 #91
Actually, I'll watch Korancki Nov 3. If early returns do favor trump, Kornacki will set us straight Hoyt Sep 2020 #10
I definitely like him on election night jimfields33 Sep 2020 #17
Exactly. Nothing wrong with being a little hyper. Hoyt Sep 2020 #25
I agree! jimfields33 Sep 2020 #34
I sincerely do not understand why so many here hate him so. TomSlick Sep 2020 #87
He was definitely thorough and knowledgeable during moonscape Sep 2020 #94
Yeah, I don't have a problem with him. He's a numbers guy and is nerdy. Big deal. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #68
I think he's great Rice4VP Sep 2020 #77
Agree. Polly Hennessey Sep 2020 #11
what did he do? NewJeffCT Sep 2020 #12
Nothing. obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2020 #19
+1000! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #29
He consistently skews the news toward republicans. BComplex Sep 2020 #21
Bingo!!! PCIntern Sep 2020 #32
Lol, not true at all, but nice try! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #33
Since I have many others on this thread that see it the same way, I'm going to have to say BComplex Sep 2020 #41
This, most of them do though with the sides crap Meowmee Sep 2020 #96
bobbing and weaving over his map like a crazed mantis eShirl Sep 2020 #31
I feel quite sure he is performing as he's been directed to do misanthrope Sep 2020 #90
This time? I have no clue. But based on previous post about him I have a couple of guesses. GulfCoast66 Sep 2020 #84
If there was no cheating, I feel it would be in the bag. By moonscape Sep 2020 #95
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Sep 2020 #13
The Ones I Refuse To Watch On MSNBC...... global1 Sep 2020 #14
Love katy lillypaddle Sep 2020 #18
I'd add Stephanie Ruhle to that list. MoonRiver Sep 2020 #22
Yep. For sure. COLGATE4 Sep 2020 #56
I have been liking CNN for a couple of months. Before that, I had MSNBC on all day while working or Hoyt Sep 2020 #28
I'll alert the media! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #35
I think he's doing ok TuxedoKat Sep 2020 #67
No way is Michigan a three point race. idziak4ever1234 Sep 2020 #15
Lol, link to your analysis please! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #40
I'm not going to link it but Politico had an article today... idziak4ever1234 Sep 2020 #43
Lol. cwydro Sep 2020 #46
Fine... Here is the link. idziak4ever1234 Sep 2020 #48
I'm just commenting that it's too funny to think he will drop out. cwydro Sep 2020 #49
Ok... Fake news then. idziak4ever1234 Sep 2020 #53
More likely an opinion piece. cwydro Sep 2020 #57
Click the link below. I am bored with this conversation and won't engage further idziak4ever1234 Sep 2020 #58
You seem to be having an argument with yourself, and a fine one it is. cwydro Sep 2020 #59
"Dropping out" of Michigan means not spending money there RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #71
Sure nuff. cwydro Sep 2020 #73
Does it say that in the article? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #74
I didn't bother to read the article. cwydro Sep 2020 #75
Okay, I guess I missed whatever they claimed RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #76
Well, it'll be great if that doesn't happen again. cwydro Sep 2020 #80
His father should have done that. Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #64
Kornacki has always been a Trump dweeb. world wide wally Sep 2020 #16
I don't even have to ask why crimycarny Sep 2020 #20
Probably not RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #78
When I see those types of opinion pieces I don't even read them crimycarny Sep 2020 #82
They have to keep saying it's a race. No matter what. RGTIndy Sep 2020 #23
Why does he piss people off so? Is it the message? The enthusiasm? nolabear Sep 2020 #26
Me too. I don't get it. Hoyt Sep 2020 #30
People seem to think if people show or talk about possible scenarios nolabear Sep 2020 #36
But when they say it over and over, hour after hour and day after day, MoonRiver Sep 2020 #37
We must watch different stations. nolabear Sep 2020 #39
+1000! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #38
Same here. WhiskeyWulf Sep 2020 #47
The man shouts at the top of his lungs and writhes about like an injured snake on Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #62
I really don't, LOL. WhiskeyWulf Sep 2020 #63
You see snake. I see Tigger. 😄 nolabear Sep 2020 #69
He could get his points across without the wild gesticulations.... lastlib Sep 2020 #70
His biggest problem is he needs to make it feel close RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #72
For me it was the Clinton emails story Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #86
Interesting. I could see hating that. nolabear Sep 2020 #89
He is an actor playing his role... RANDYWILDMAN Sep 2020 #42
Does he have a boyfriend or husband? I'll bet that type of behavior would drive anyone crazy. NurseJackie Sep 2020 #50
Lol, FFS! Nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #51
LOL NurseJackie Sep 2020 #52
Well, at least you get it misanthrope Sep 2020 #92
This COLGATE4 Sep 2020 #54
I like him, so to each his own. NT Celerity Sep 2020 #60
Don't know if he's king but Sunsky Sep 2020 #61
I like him. He's one of my favorites renate Sep 2020 #65
He seems ok, just kind of stats geek. Seems pretty innocuous and can entertaining. Nexus2 Sep 2020 #79
My wife wants to send him some pants, black, blue, brown Jersey Devil Sep 2020 #66
I gave up MSNBC completely budkin Sep 2020 #81
Ok he is a bit hyper but.... steve2470 Sep 2020 #83
Somebody get him a different pair of slacks. nt Hotler Sep 2020 #88
That's the character's costume misanthrope Sep 2020 #93

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. Flawed premise. One doesn't need to "keep watching" in order to know he's a spastic butthole...
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:41 PM
Sep 2020

... all it takes is one or two times. Most people can remember a simple fact about his behavior and demeanor and attitude without needing to be constantly reminded of it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
44. Lol.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:14 PM
Sep 2020

Morning Joe has the same type fans.

Watching so as to keep us all apprised about their horridness.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
3. He's not the worst by any means, just one of the most irritating.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:07 PM
Sep 2020

He reminds me of one of those tube-shaped things with the flapping arms you see at car dealers' lots.

PCIntern

(25,601 posts)
7. He manages to get on my nerves more
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

Than anyone else on TV including the Fox people. He’s like the guy who did your crowd of friends who you want to take a baseball bat to. Like if it’s one in the morning and you say Something happened tonight and he says well actually that was yesterday

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
6. He's spewing this crap about Chump winning, with no real rationale for that claim.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

Every time he appears I switch channels.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Actually, I'll watch Korancki Nov 3. If early returns do favor trump, Kornacki will set us straight
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:18 PM
Sep 2020

on where votes have yet to be counted and how well Democrats are likely to do in those areas.

I like the guy, sorry.

jimfields33

(16,018 posts)
17. I definitely like him on election night
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:30 PM
Sep 2020

He knows his stuff. Not sure why so many don’t like him. He does get excitable, but to me it just shows he’s passionate about his craft.

TomSlick

(11,118 posts)
87. I sincerely do not understand why so many here hate him so.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 09:32 PM
Sep 2020

He's a number nerd who is really into his job.

moonscape

(4,674 posts)
94. He was definitely thorough and knowledgeable during
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:21 PM
Sep 2020

Bridgegate. I kept up with it through him and his show and liked him then. He wasn't so hyper then, or else I didn't register him that way, but appreciated his geekiness about NJ politics.

Midnight Writer

(21,819 posts)
68. Yeah, I don't have a problem with him. He's a numbers guy and is nerdy. Big deal.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:39 PM
Sep 2020

I love seeing numbers crunched. I'm nerdy, too.

No, I don't always agree with him, but I do appreciate someone showing me the numbers.

Polly Hennessey

(6,812 posts)
11. Agree.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:21 PM
Sep 2020

He is at it again. Twisting, flipping, flopping any which way to show how tRump will win. Andrea bumbling, wide-eyed egging him on and on and on. Now tRump is whining about money, now law and order. Is it just me or is he becoming repetitively boring. I have them on as background noise while checking DU.

BComplex

(8,073 posts)
41. Since I have many others on this thread that see it the same way, I'm going to have to say
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

that we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point.

misanthrope

(7,432 posts)
90. I feel quite sure he is performing as he's been directed to do
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:15 PM
Sep 2020

That's why he wears the same "costume" when he's in front of his board: the khakis, the loosened tie and rolled up sleeves with paper in his hand. It's a character, the breathless statistician, politico-nerd and most obviously something egged on by the producers.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
84. This time? I have no clue. But based on previous post about him I have a couple of guesses.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:27 PM
Sep 2020

- he did not say Biden was a lock to win.

-he explained the ways trump could win.

The first is undeniable true. The second explains it what could drive the first.

If I’m wrong I will apologize. Let me know.

I kind of like the guy. He is nerdy and focuses on the numbers. He is the best on election night.

But I respect that others disagree.

But this election is not in the bag. Even if there is no cheating. If we get out the vote we could win in what amounts in a landslide in today’s time. But that is not guaranteed.

moonscape

(4,674 posts)
95. If there was no cheating, I feel it would be in the bag. By
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:24 PM
Sep 2020

cheating I include closing polling places of minorities, purging voter rolls, and other domestic voter terrorism, not just by Russia.

global1

(25,285 posts)
14. The Ones I Refuse To Watch On MSNBC......
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:29 PM
Sep 2020

Chuck Todd
Steve Kornacki
Andrea Mitchell
Alex Witt
Katy Tur - she's beginning to get to me now - attitude

Any time any of these people show up on the channel - I immediately turn MSNBC off.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. I have been liking CNN for a couple of months. Before that, I had MSNBC on all day while working or
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:51 PM
Sep 2020

messing around. Rachel Maddow got me through bush years, but I just can't listen to them anymore.

idziak4ever1234

(1,257 posts)
58. Click the link below. I am bored with this conversation and won't engage further
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:52 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/08/swing-states-michigan-409051

It is not an opinion piece and Politico is not fake news.

I gave my opinion, was asked to back it up, and I did. You can disagree, but people have to stop crying "fake news" when they are proven wrong.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
59. You seem to be having an argument with yourself, and a fine one it is.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:55 PM
Sep 2020

You’re the one who called it “fake News”, not I.

I simply stated my OPINION, which is that he will not drop out.

Please show me where I called it fake news. Those are the words of repubs, not mine. Interesting.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
71. "Dropping out" of Michigan means not spending money there
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:39 PM
Sep 2020

Trump doesn't need Michigan to steal this again.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
76. Okay, I guess I missed whatever they claimed
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:50 PM
Sep 2020

The article actually makes great points. Some pretty good breakdown numbers in there for those of us who care about such things. Michigan falling to Trump in 16 was a freak.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
20. I don't even have to ask why
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:34 PM
Sep 2020

Because just reading his name I though “Kornacki must be predicting a Trump win”. Am I right?

Guys like Kornacki love to search for the most implausible, yet technically possible, routes to a Trump win and present them as some sort of smart analysis that others are missing.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
78. Probably not
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:52 PM
Sep 2020

But he's fond, like Nate Cohn, of saying "This should give Democrats pause" to seem like there's something going to break for Trump.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
82. When I see those types of opinion pieces I don't even read them
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 06:37 PM
Sep 2020

Too much anxiety as it is with California wildfires, COVID-19, etc.

 

RGTIndy

(203 posts)
23. They have to keep saying it's a race. No matter what.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:39 PM
Sep 2020

Otherwise half their viewers will start watching baking contests.

nolabear

(41,999 posts)
26. Why does he piss people off so? Is it the message? The enthusiasm?
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

His expertise? I like him a lot and want the numbers, good or bad.

nolabear

(41,999 posts)
36. People seem to think if people show or talk about possible scenarios
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:54 PM
Sep 2020

it’s an attack on Joe and Kamala. I’m glad they show them. We need to keep that fire under our tails!

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
37. But when they say it over and over, hour after hour and day after day,
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:56 PM
Sep 2020

with very little supporting data, it becomes propaganda (for Chump) IMO.

WhiskeyWulf

(569 posts)
47. Same here.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:18 PM
Sep 2020

I may have missed something, but I've never seen him show bias toward Trump. And as for the claim that he's hyper, I just don't see it.

Maru Kitteh

(28,344 posts)
62. The man shouts at the top of his lungs and writhes about like an injured snake on
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:19 PM
Sep 2020

a hot sheet of tin. You don't see the hyper.



WhiskeyWulf

(569 posts)
63. I really don't, LOL.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:24 PM
Sep 2020

Maybe I'm catching him at the wrong moments. Or maybe my tolerance is different -- I've dated a few people who were way more hyper than he is.

lastlib

(23,323 posts)
70. He could get his points across without the wild gesticulations....
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:32 PM
Sep 2020

I can understand that he wants to make dry, dull numbers more exciting, but his histrionics are very distracting from that. I would prefer to see him be a little calmer, and use his voice inflections to get his information across.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
72. His biggest problem is he needs to make it feel close
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:41 PM
Sep 2020

He could just be honest and say the race isn't close right now, but the postal and COVID bullshit throws a wrench in all of it.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
86. For me it was the Clinton emails story
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:50 PM
Sep 2020

He was one of the people in the media pushing it as a crime. One night he was guest hosting Hardball and David Corn was trying to state facts about the story, Kornaki got nasty and shut down the discussion because what Corn was saying didn’t fit the anti- Clinton narrative Kornaki was pushing.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,678 posts)
42. He is an actor playing his role...
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:09 PM
Sep 2020

Some like Ari, Hayes, Rachel and Larry O get to play the hard style potential libs. Others play middle of road and Kornacki is the big board freak who always finds a sliver of hope for trump and his fans or doubt for Biden fans. Either way it's mostly a game. He can't stand up there for hours and tell everybody it's a blowout even when it is.

I really hate good television "Must see" horse race shit should have gone out the window when the 2000 election was stolen, when we really needed one, nobody was pounding away hard enough for Al Gore and they should have never stopped. When the courted decided an election and not a state, we were FFFFFFFFed and have never been the same since.

I doubt he really cares either way.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
50. Does he have a boyfriend or husband? I'll bet that type of behavior would drive anyone crazy.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:29 PM
Sep 2020

If he's single... this could explain why.

misanthrope

(7,432 posts)
92. Well, at least you get it
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:18 PM
Sep 2020

Can't say the same for others.

And I can't stand Lawrence O'Donnell since I heard that Bill O' Reilly-style meltdown he had with his staff. No sense in treating people poorly.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
61. Don't know if he's king but
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:59 PM
Sep 2020

I believe his purpose is to demoralize Democrats. That's why I've stopped watching him. Anytime he is on, is time for me to watch or do something else.

renate

(13,776 posts)
65. I like him. He's one of my favorites
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:41 PM
Sep 2020

I love enthusiasm and I love nerdy enthusiasm.

I also think it's his job to analyze the numbers rather than just report them. Anchors and talking heads can talk about numbers, pure and simple, but it's his job to say "yeah, but there's more here than meets the eye." And if the "more here" shows that things look better for the GOP than the plain numbers themselves, it's his job to report it, whether we like it or not.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
79. He seems ok, just kind of stats geek. Seems pretty innocuous and can entertaining.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:54 PM
Sep 2020

I was actually surprised by the thread's level of vitriol regarding him.

Jersey Devil

(9,875 posts)
66. My wife wants to send him some pants, black, blue, brown
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:51 PM
Sep 2020

I laugh at all his jumping around and enjoy his enthusiasm, but why the hell does he ALWAYS wear the same color khaki pants?

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
83. Ok he is a bit hyper but....
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 06:58 PM
Sep 2020

1- From what I can tell, he is presenting the polls, whether we like the numbers or not
2- If he simply ignored any *possible* ways for Trump to win, that would be more like DNC TV
3- If anything, his less rosy scenarios for we Dems is GOOD for us! Right now, I am a tad concerned that some may get complacent and over-confident (despite the 2016 fiasco). I damn sure don't like *any* possible scenario for Trump to win, but I'd rather bear the discomfort NOW than deal with Dictator-wannabe back in the White House in January 2021.

Florida is too damn close for my comfort right now, and the polls I have seen (except maybe Michigan) put the Asshole-in-chief within striking distance if his deluded followers turn out in droves. GOTV for us is everything. If GOTV fails... we have the asshole again for 4 more years.

My 2 cents, so I guess we agree to disagree about him.

misanthrope

(7,432 posts)
93. That's the character's costume
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:20 PM
Sep 2020

When the clothes are rumpled, it looks more authentic, like he's so focused on crunching the numbers that there's little care for anything else.

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