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of rape: report
Published 1 min ago on September 8, 2020
By Bob Brigham
President Donald Trump is seeking to have tax-payer lawyers defend him in a case revolving over whether he lied about raping a woman.
The U.S. Justice Department is seeking to take over the defense of President Donald Trump in a defamation suit brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, who claims Trump raped her two decades ago, Bloomberg News reported Tuesday.
Carroll is seeking to depose Trump in the case and have him provide a DNA sample to match against the dress she still has from the alleged attack.
Because President Trump was acting within the scope of his office or employment at the time of the incident out of which the plaintiffs claim arose, the United States will file a motion to substitute itself for President Trump in this action Bill Barrs Department of Justice said in the filing.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/bill-barrs-doj-says-trump-was-acting-as-president-when-he-allegedly-defamed-woman-who-accused-him-of-rape-report/
So Barr is trying to shield this "guy" and millions of Americans are paying for this shit sandwich.............
Me.
(35,454 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)treason barr needs to be disbarred and removed.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)his legal fees. Taxpayers & Barr will help him with this personal case? What? He needs to take that DNA test!...
SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)his campaign war chest is going broke. I wonder how many Trump donors know that their donations are being used to pay Trump's private legal fees? Ahhhh, they don't care. They'd throw themselves in front of a speeding train just so Hair Furor's hair wouldn't get messed up. Stupid is as stupid does.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Entrusted to the President of the United States by its People.
After all, something something Monica something something!
So, gosh, what's the problem?
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)Hope everyone learns the full extent of his sick and sordid legal mind and Trumps criminality. Their biographies overlap with regard to sexual assault via their longtime family friend, Jeffrey Epstein.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-epstein-barr-problem-of-new-york-citys-dalton-school/
BKDem
(1,733 posts)Nevilledog
(51,094 posts)BKDem
(1,733 posts)yeah that made me laugh. the visual however is unappealing to say the least.
procon
(15,805 posts)If he tried this stunt in law school would his professors swoon at his stunning oratory, or would they boot him out of law school?
bluestarone
(16,926 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)...The Court is not persuaded of the seriousness of the alleged risks that this decision will generate a large volume of politically motivated harassing and frivolous litigation and that national security concerns might prevent the President from explaining a legitimate need for a continuance, and has confidence in the ability of federal judges to deal with both concerns. If Congress deems it appropriate to afford the President stronger protection, it may respond with legislation.
That case involved an incident that allegedly occurred before Clinton became president, while this one occurred during Trump's presidency - he made a false statement about Carroll after she claimed he raped her before he became president. I don't see the difference, though, since under this analysis there would be no greater burden on the executive branch if the president has to defend against a claim involving an unofficial act while he was president than against one that occurred previously.
Barr is probably going to try to rely on Nixon v. Fitzgerald, in which Fitzgerald was dismissed from his job during a departmental reorganization and reduction in force, in which his job was eliminated. He alleged that his separation represented unlawful retaliation for his congressional testimony and named a number of officials, including Nixon, as defendants. The Supreme Court held that a president is immune from civil actions based on official acts:
"There are . . . incidental powers, belonging to the executive department, which are necessarily implied from the nature of the functions, which are confided to it. Among these, must necessarily be included the power to perform them . . . . The president cannot, therefore, be liable to arrest, imprisonment, or detention, while he is in the discharge of the duties of his office; and for this purpose his person must be deemed, in civil cases at least, to possess an official inviolability."
I will be very interested in seeing how Barr tries to explain how calling someone a liar while president because they accused him of raping her before he was president constitutes an official act of a president.
CincyDem
(6,355 posts)Hmm...of all the things I thought might in the presidents job description, this wasnt on my list.
intrepidity
(7,294 posts)Because you can't have one without the other.
And then have him explain the difference.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)as the defendant because Trump was acting in his capacity as president when he defamed Jean Carroll, which is rank bullshit, but the effect would be that the case is thrown out because the government can't commit defamation. I think it's another bogus delaying tactic, and I don't get why Barr doesn't get smacked with a Rule 11 violation.
JI7
(89,248 posts)with that jeff Epstein connection.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Bahahahhaaha. Theres not a federal judge in the nation worth their law degree that wont shred this motion and then feed the peices to the raccoons in the courthouse bushes.
Barr must be out of his fucking mind to think this will play.
intrepidity
(7,294 posts)speaknow
(321 posts)a civil case then Barr should butt out.
keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)Trump fights dna release
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Don't like it?
Do something about it.
These problems are not going away anytime soon.
They are not because of the orange asshole (not defending this dipshit, just saying he is a result and not a cause). This reality exists here and now because of what our country has become - what we have allowed it to become.
We choose what country we live in. Remake it, or learn to live with it.
Remember how fucking bad reagan was? Bush 1, bush 2? Now tRump?
For fucks sake - .............
I am voting for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. That is just the start.
Work together, change this shit.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)So this move is to have taxpayer lawyers pay for Trump's legal defense on releasing the DNA as evidence in this litigation. This is simple discovery so what is the legal basis for contesting the release?
intrepidity
(7,294 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)barbtries
(28,789 posts)because his bullshit just gets weirder and weirder.
or maybe he's always been a twisted, evil fuck.
Hotler
(11,420 posts)onetexan
(13,040 posts)Lowbarr needs to be DISBARRED!!
dalton99a
(81,475 posts)spanone
(135,830 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)spanone
(135,830 posts)Takket
(21,563 posts)Nevilledog
(51,094 posts)aggiesal
(8,914 posts)that believe they are the lawyer for the pResident instead of the nation.
Alberto Gonzales couldn't find work after leaving the AG post. He started a consulting firm and is currently Dean of Belmont University College of Law, in Nashville, Tennessee.
I hope Bill DisBarr at least gets.disbarred and goes to jail.