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WOW! On MSNBC 11th Hour: James Carville says Biden should do what Bernie says! (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Sep 2020 OP
well what one is for is always a nice balance to making it all about trump 24/7 nt msongs Sep 2020 #1
I think Biden does that already, along with reminding us what a decent human looks like soothsayer Sep 2020 #2
Carville also called himself a Bernie Bro. nt Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #3
I think he said he was no Bernie Bro. JoeOtterbein Sep 2020 #4
oh. I misheard, then. nt Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #16
yes, he was deffo not a Bro at all, he was vehemently against Sanders nt Celerity Sep 2020 #18
I doubt that is true. He was very concerned when it looked like Bernie was gonna be the nminer. Nt helpisontheway Sep 2020 #14
Carville said that he is not a Bernie Bro. Marie Marie Sep 2020 #15
I think that is coming, right now the contrast couldn't be more clear uponit7771 Sep 2020 #5
Why would you be "blown away" about that? BlueLucy Sep 2020 #6
I'm a Bernie Bro who wishes that was true. JoeOtterbein Sep 2020 #7
He said he's no Bernie bro Green Line Sep 2020 #8
+1 nt JoeOtterbein Sep 2020 #9
Carville said: "I'm hardly a Bernie Bro but radius777 Sep 2020 #13
Carville knows what he's talking about. radius777 Sep 2020 #10
What is so crazy about that? This is not the time for a candidate to Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #11
Despite all the noise here...Joe Biden is winning. It is about the President....and the shitty Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #29
No one said shitty job. It's about including knowing that the wisdom of Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #33
Yup. And Carville ain't no Bernie bro Arazi Sep 2020 #12
The only policy I care about is the "No more Trump" policy. tinrobot Sep 2020 #17
+100 Spot on! abqtommy Sep 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author LW1977 Sep 2020 #20
Yes talk about Policy ... Because it helped Hillary so well Le Roi de Pot Sep 2020 #21
in 2008 Carville said that the Democrats will now control the government for the next 40 years question everything Sep 2020 #22
video melman Sep 2020 #23
Bernie should exit stage left. cwydro Sep 2020 #24
That's actually NOT what Carville said. Where did he say "Biden should do what Bernie says"? George II Sep 2020 #25
Ah thanks BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #26
"I think Bernie Sanders is exactly right.." aidbo Sep 2020 #27
Yes, he said that, but Biden has been doing exactly that in the last week or two. However... George II Sep 2020 #28
Not if he wants to win. Why should Biden take advice from Bernie who lost the Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #30
No...that is what Trump wants. Sander did not even come close to winning. I would take no advice Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #31
Carville has not been right in election strategy since Bill Clinton won! karynnj Sep 2020 #32

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
2. I think Biden does that already, along with reminding us what a decent human looks like
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:47 PM
Sep 2020

I see all kinds of Biden tweets that lead to plans and stuff.

But maybe he’s saying get that out more broadly?

Idk.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
10. Carville knows what he's talking about.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:07 AM
Sep 2020

I'm not a big fan of the Bernie wing, but the article in WaPo that came out the other day was very good, in terms of critiquing the weaknesses of the Biden campaign.

A great Dem once said 'it's the economy, stupid' and we can't allow Trump to beat us on this issue, which polls show to be Trump's one strong point.

We keep hearing that Trump lied about the virus, but we don't hear why. It's up to Biden/Harris to connect the dots. Trump lied to prop up the stock market while shoveling money (via the Fed and zero interest rates) to big corps - while forcing regular people into the pandemic to die for the 1 percent. Dems are the ones who passed the Cares Act and then the Heroes Act that is still being blocked by the GOP - while regular folks wait on food lines and have lost their healthcare.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
11. What is so crazy about that? This is not the time for a candidate to
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:09 AM
Sep 2020

have the luxury of calling all the shots. We are in desperate circumstances...life and death. Worrying that these people with mountains of knowledge aren't consulted ( I guess?) and have to go on TV to push their points.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
29. Despite all the noise here...Joe Biden is winning. It is about the President....and the shitty
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 11:58 AM
Sep 2020

job he has done...and Sanders wants Biden to take a walk on the left and I say absolutely not. Sanders can't help us win in states we need.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
33. No one said shitty job. It's about including knowing that the wisdom of
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 03:00 PM
Sep 2020

others is needed in a life or death situation.

Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

 

Le Roi de Pot

(744 posts)
21. Yes talk about Policy ... Because it helped Hillary so well
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

Have a detailed policy by all means - and you must

But talk about Values. Republicans do that really well.

Talk about your Values that inform your Policies. That is what voters can relate to

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
26. Ah thanks
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 05:31 PM
Sep 2020

I had assumed the OPs characterization was inaccurate. That looks like a correct assumption.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
27. "I think Bernie Sanders is exactly right.."
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 06:04 PM
Sep 2020

“.. he’s [Biden] got to focus on these issues.”

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. Yes, he said that, but Biden has been doing exactly that in the last week or two. However...
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 11:56 AM
Sep 2020

...its not even close to the OP subject line: "James Carville says Biden should do what Bernie says!"

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
30. Not if he wants to win. Why should Biden take advice from Bernie who lost the
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:01 PM
Sep 2020

nomination? Sanders should be quiet and so should Carville. Beating Trump is all that matters. Let's not give Trump ammo...Sanders wants Biden to sing the MFA bullshit and that would be a terrible idea.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
31. No...that is what Trump wants. Sander did not even come close to winning. I would take no advice
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:03 PM
Sep 2020

from him and I resent like hell his meddling in the election.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
32. Carville has not been right in election strategy since Bill Clinton won!
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:08 PM
Sep 2020

Even then, though his war room was trumpeted as important to 1992, remember that people in the Clinton wing also say that Bill Clinton was the best natural politician of his generation - something far more likely to be true. Bill Clinton's win in 1992 was not a landslide - and it was against a president at about 30% approval!

Carville is likely over rated. He certainly was not a huge help to Hillary 2008 or 2016. He was likely negative in 2004 - always considering Kerry as anybody but Bush. a concept that never made sense in a general election, but which diminished our nominee every time he or others spoke that way. Not to mention, there were reports that he passed information given him by someone on the Kerry team on election night to his Republican wife. I suspect he preferred Kerry to lose - leaving 2008 for HRC. I don't remember him in 2000.

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