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Carville: Kushner is not going to do well in jail. nt (Original Post) Grasswire2 Sep 2020 OP
said on the Eleventh Hour with Brian Williams.nt Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #1
I'm watching the rerun just for this. BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #17
Yep. FM123 Sep 2020 #2
I think he was referring to some slap and tickle due to feminine features. Funtatlaguy Sep 2020 #4
rape is not "slap and tickle" Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #5
Agree. Was just a bad pun. But I do hope the whole clan goes to prison. Funtatlaguy Sep 2020 #6
+1. It's cruel and unusual punishment radius777 Sep 2020 #8
I hate hearing that "joke." Codeine Sep 2020 #9
It's an assumption people make that he will/might be raped Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2020 #10
The problem is three-fold - Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #13
I agree. nt Catherine Vincent Sep 2020 #15
Well, I hate to disagree with you but... Dan Sep 2020 #16
It never stops, does it? cwydro Sep 2020 #22
Oh boy. cwydro Sep 2020 #19
K&R, uponit7771 Sep 2020 #3
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #7
like magats to shit...nt GReedDiamond Sep 2020 #11
Rape is not about attraction. It is about anger and power. Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #14
It's not all rape in prison. Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #18
Do you have experience in prison? cwydro Sep 2020 #25
And if you believe the reference wasn't to rape, Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #27
Unreal reading this here. cwydro Sep 2020 #20
Karma - If he could be prosecuted by Chris Christie. keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #12
I dunno: it may do him some good. He might meet even some other people struggle4progress Sep 2020 #21
His daddy still in jail? BlueStater Sep 2020 #23
GUARANTEE : No one with the last name of "Trump" or "Kushner" will ever bullwinkle428 Sep 2020 #24
His father served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery Klaralven Sep 2020 #26
And learned how to play tennis. tavernier Sep 2020 #29
I've lost faith any of them will be behind bars. Nothing moonscape Sep 2020 #28
Prison rape jokes are shitty. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #30

radius777

(3,635 posts)
8. +1. It's cruel and unusual punishment
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:34 AM
Sep 2020

and we as a society cannot accept it as an 'unofficial' form of justice, no matter how much we dislike the defendant.

Note that most acts of prison violence/rape/etc are not against bad people per se, but against weaker and marginalized people.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,569 posts)
10. It's an assumption people make that he will/might be raped
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:45 AM
Sep 2020

He could get beaten up, which is an act of violence also.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
13. The problem is three-fold -
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:40 AM
Sep 2020

slap and tickle is a description of consensual behavior. Rape is not.

The implied suggestion that rape is based on appearance (attractive/effeminate). It is not.

And finally, the implied threat of extra-judicial punishment in the form of rape.

None of it should be acceptable here.

Dan

(3,554 posts)
16. Well, I hate to disagree with you but...
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:05 AM
Sep 2020

In prison - a male prison, having an appearance that is effeminate and not having the ability to defend yourself, guarantees you an opportunity to be raped.

And because some (Most) of our prisons are warehouses rather than places of rehabilitation there is always the threat of extra-judicial punishment in the form of rape.

While it should not be acceptable - there are reasons for it:
1. Rehabilitation and all it implies - is not the goal - plus providing some type of training for inmates, worthwhile skills can’t be allowed to threaten the community working personnel.

2. Providing a safe environment in prison - requires some social isolation and increasing the staff to provide that security.

3. Sad truth, prisons, some prisons - allow some inmates to exercise power over other inmates.

4. Inmates, some inmates have a history of violence - and they exercise that violence over other inmates and in some cases, staff.

In my humble opinion.

P.S. I forgot - people like the Jared - they go to clubhouse type prisons, so not the same as the ones that we normal people go to.

Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
14. Rape is not about attraction. It is about anger and power.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:40 AM
Sep 2020

Please don't equate the former with the latter.

keithbvadu2

(36,785 posts)
12. Karma - If he could be prosecuted by Chris Christie.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:38 AM
Sep 2020

Karma - If he could be prosecuted by Chris Christie.

struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
21. I dunno: it may do him some good. He might meet even some other people
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 04:28 AM
Sep 2020

who think like he does: "The laws don't apply to me." Maybe he'll make some new friendships that last a lifetime

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
24. GUARANTEE : No one with the last name of "Trump" or "Kushner" will ever
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 08:42 AM
Sep 2020

spend a single day behind bars following the end of this regime.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
28. I've lost faith any of them will be behind bars. Nothing
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:08 PM
Sep 2020

just seems to be possible. Hard to wait for this feeling to go away and semi-normalcy to return.

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