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(12,503 posts)They know under the Trump climate change policy ICE FISHING WILL END FOREVER, but Biden will do what ever he can to make the sport go on for generations to come.
Tell Minnesotans Trump is going to take their lake ice away, and they will go crazy and definitely vote blue.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)By the time he cut the ice big enough for the boat, it was too dark.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)outside of the Twin Cities. Some people out state say that they face violent threats if they speak against Trump.
The farmers are still supporting him. I have zero sympathy for them. Trump fucked up their livelihood with his trade wars, yet they still fall in line.
the_sly_pig
(741 posts)That's likely the reason. I used to think Minnesotans were generally the same. DFL (Democratic FARMER Labor) party and State republicans were closer rather than further apart. Then I traveled to out state. I no longer think we're similar.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)All the MPD that live in the ex-urbs
Johnny2X2X
(19,060 posts)ABC/WAPO is one of the gold standard polls.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Minnesota is a bit shocking. But Ill take it.
-Laelth
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)That was shocking.
BAnthony
(16 posts)These are good polls but i have been watching that damn usc dornsife poll and it is giving me a heart attack. He went from a 11 pt lead to 7 in a few days. He had a 14 point lead a couple of weeks. I realize Biden was not going to win by 14, but damn not liking that trend at all. It indicates we are losing some urban voters. Seriously look at that trend.
Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)Because Real Clear Politics wasnt including that poll in its polling average, now that it is going down they are including it.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html
dawg
(10,624 posts)Fla Dem
(23,656 posts)Without it, average lead for Biden would be 7.1.
Norbert
(6,039 posts)Kiss it goodbye dude.
pazzyanne
(6,551 posts)He was drawing people from Wisconsin, Michigan, South Dakota, and North Dakota as well as Minnesotans there. My sister and some of her friends drove over 5 1/2 hours for that rally. It was not a strictly Minnesota rally.
I am hoping that Minnesota holds firm against him!
getagrip_already
(14,742 posts)come up with excuses to disallow the results and stay in power.
There isn't any other explanation. His campaign has pulled ads in nevada - a state he just this week said he could win. They aren't just not buying ad time, they are canceling time they have already reserved. The networks must be demanding payment up front.
So he is going through motions and will claim he had super high levels of support which
were overwhelmed through voter fraud and vote fixing.
Remember, he accuses others of what he is actually doing.
We need to run up the score as far as possible. Redouble the turnout. Monitor the shit put of polling places and keep their thugs from disrupting the vote. We need every vote we can find.
No protests. No staying home because of reasons. I don't care if you disike the ticket. This is not a case of both sides suck, so it doesn't matter.
People need to realize this my be the last presidential election they ever get to vote in that can make a difference. We will end up with putin style elections. With a trump party candidate and a hand picked weak opponent and votes watched by party officials.
That isn't hyperbole.
Lonestarblue
(9,981 posts)His likely strategy is to create so many lawsuits and chaos around mail-in ballots that final state counts cannot be made by the deadline to select EC electors. If he is able to throw the election to the House of Representatives, he winsassuming every Republican state representative votes for him. The only ones who might not are Maryland and Massachusetts, bth of which are blue states with Republican governors, in which case it might result in a tie. I have no clue what happens then, but I guess it would go to the Republican Supreme Court and I assume they would appoint Trump as president.
One of the ways Trump mentioned disqualifying mail ballots was if they had no postal stamp with the date on them. Obviously, ballots put in an official drop box will have no such stamp. I hope state election officials are having election clerks stamp ballots with the date they were picked up from drop boxes to eliminate this potential issue.
lastlib
(23,224 posts)I'd never deal with the basturd, but I was advising anybody else, I would INSIST on payment up front. Or bye-bye.
Auggie
(31,167 posts)It aint over till its over Yogi Berra
Im smarter than the average bear Yogi Bear
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Especially +16%! Thats such a large lead it DOES make me a bit suspicious of the polling
ETA: Well crap; I read Minnesota but thought Michigan. Never mind.......
Auggie
(31,167 posts)It's just that the Electoral College makes POTUS elections less easy to predict.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)We have SO many states that are reliably one way or the other; i.e. what are the chances of California voting Trump? It boils down to maybe 5-6 states that end up going one way or the other. And Trump only won by a handful last time; approx 88k votes over 3 states. So Dems get THOSE 3 and its all over for him
Unless the race is just out of reach from the start, like Reagan & Clinton's 2nd term. But Trump is nowhere NEAR those numbers
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)The only time since Ike that it went Republican was in 1972, and even then it was the final state called.
I remember the morning after the election hoping that it would be called for McGovern so that would be minimally less catastrophic, but, alas.
McGovern had the wisdom to know that there are much worse things that could happen in life than losing an election. Unfortunately he experienced many of them.
#notmypresident
RESIST
ooky
(8,922 posts)if he hasn't already. They ain't swallowing it.
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)I was wondering to what extent Twin Cities and Duluth media buys target western Wisconsinites. Even if Minnesota is a marginal swing state, buying ads in the two major media markets in Minnesota does at least get you some eyeballs in a neighboring certain-swing state.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)OH is the key. It's a red-swing state which means that it leans conservative but not crazy conservative. That state seems to be moving towards Biden which means national blowout.