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(884 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:43 AM Sep 2020

In the wake of RGB's passing, there is ONE thing we must unite in demanding as Democratic voters.

There must not be any more capitulation on holding presidents (and other high-ranking elected officials) accountable to the rule of law, in the interest of mutual toleration, for the simple reason that mutual toleration is already dead.

It has been dying for my entire adult lifetime, thanks to Fox "News" and other rw media, and it finally breathed its last ragged breath when Trump and his sycophants started chanting "LOCK HER UP".

To fail to recognize this painful fact, and act accordingly, is inexcusable, and we must not tolerate it anymore.

Three of the last four Republican administrations have ended with a Republican president escaping accountability for their very well-documented crimes (Nixon and Watergate, Reagan and Iran-Contra, and Bush 43 and fabricated intelligence), and EVERY time, they were exempted from the rule of law "in the interest of preserving unity".

But that CANNOT work when one Party is devoted not only to intolerance of lawful conduct they don't like on the other side, but ALSO to tolerance of blatantly unlawful conduct they do like, by members of their own; which is what we unquestionably have now. Mutual toleration is only worth sacrificing to preserve as long as it is actually mutual.

This, above all else, must be the pressure we bring to bear upon the next Democratic administration.

The rule of law must be preserved at all costs.

Trump must be tried for his crimes.
As must every elected official who aided and abetted them.

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In the wake of RGB's passing, there is ONE thing we must unite in demanding as Democratic voters. (Original Post) better Sep 2020 OP
This. Problem is, now we will be trying him in a stacked court. But we need to do it anyway. Squinch Sep 2020 #1
Not necessarily. better Sep 2020 #3
There are fixes to a stacked court Hstch05 Sep 2020 #4
Agreed Hstch05 Sep 2020 #2
Accountability for crimes: Absolutely northoftheborder Sep 2020 #5
+100 Duppers Sep 2020 #6

better

(884 posts)
3. Not necessarily.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 AM
Sep 2020

Thankfully, cooler heads than I have pointed out that if we take the WH and Senate, we can abolish the filibuster and expand SCOTUS pretty much on day 1 of the new administration. And as far as I'm concerned, we MUST.

Hstch05

(219 posts)
4. There are fixes to a stacked court
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:54 AM
Sep 2020

if we are willing to be bold;
1) expand the court by 2 judges, as has been suggested by others
2) impeach Kavanaugh for perjury during his conformation hearing
Are these things likely to happen? No. But they are possible methods to setting thing right after losing 2 and possibly 3 SCOTUS picks due to intransigence, obstruction, overreach, and foreign election interference.

Hstch05

(219 posts)
2. Agreed
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 AM
Sep 2020

This has been going on for decades, as you've said. But really, since Trump's election, the lawlessness and the destruction of norms has been progressing almost exponentially . There needs to be a fundamental change in how WE hold politicians accountable for this.

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