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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:35 PM Sep 2020

Holy shit. Master race eugenics rhetoric here. This was how the Holocaust was started. Don't ignore.

"You have good genes, you know that, right? You have good genes. A lot of it is about the genes, isn't it, don't you believe? The racehorse theory. You think we're so different? You have good genes in Minnesota." -- Trump


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Holy shit. Master race eugenics rhetoric here. This was how the Holocaust was started. Don't ignore. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2020 OP
How does he know that Minnesotans have good genes? Laelth Sep 2020 #1
Because a lot of them have Norwegian/Nordic heritage? no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #3
His favourite kind of white too muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #4
The part of Minnesota he visited is overwhelmingly white, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #12
Lots of white people in the state though it's decreasing in recent years JI7 Sep 2020 #18
I guess he forgot bdamomma Sep 2020 #40
Super-duper supermen! Turbineguy Sep 2020 #2
I've always loved loved Spike Jones and His City Slickers Leith Sep 2020 #21
Oh, thank you! Spike Jones and the City Slickers! raging moderate Sep 2020 #25
Another fan here! catchnrelease Sep 2020 #35
Spike Jones always had the right idea for gun usage. calimary Sep 2020 #88
Sorry, kpete. SergeStorms Sep 2020 #5
I understand kpete Sep 2020 #14
Never have, never will Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #28
This is why he said this in Minnesota. madaboutharry Sep 2020 #6
Whether he know it or not. Chainfire Sep 2020 #9
He knows it. His one book is Mein Kampf, kept on the bed stand. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #34
one thing the nazis proved. there is no such thing as superior genes. demigoddess Sep 2020 #72
The bastard is preaching the "good genes" crap while crowding all those poor suckers... brush Sep 2020 #7
He is just so ignorant of history that he has no freaking idea Chainfire Sep 2020 #8
Funny thing is, his mom was a Scottish immigrant. LuvNewcastle Sep 2020 #62
So true - absolutely! FakeNoose Sep 2020 #63
This is how he's been... Karadeniz Sep 2020 #10
I have way better genes than the Con malaise Sep 2020 #11
You know all that stuff started in the United States, right? wryter2000 Sep 2020 #13
+1 2naSalit Sep 2020 #19
Hitler got much of his inspiration from the Jim Crow era South aidbo Sep 2020 #39
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #57
Vermont played a large part in the eugenics movement... handmade34 Sep 2020 #42
Mein Kampf was written way before 1934 bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #68
Darwin had nothing to do with "social Darwinism." Eyeball_Kid Sep 2020 #71
"Nothing to do"? bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #78
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #56
Jensen died in 2012 eom alp227 Sep 2020 #59
Thank you wryter2000 Sep 2020 #77
Pushing up daisies now lunasun Sep 2020 #60
Inbreeding. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #15
Inbreeding? mzmolly Sep 2020 #17
Talking "pure" race. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #22
Gotcha! mzmolly Sep 2020 #27
I would take offence, but I actually know a couple who are first cousins. Arkansas Granny Sep 2020 #26
LOL mzmolly Sep 2020 #29
No offense for me. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #32
Common in the 19th century Retrograde Sep 2020 #53
You can even see it in literature of the time. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #73
He's referring to the Scandinavians BainsBane Sep 2020 #50
If only those who don't ignore will *VOTE*! UTUSN Sep 2020 #16
Let him try and claim he was speaking to all Minnesotan's. Of course there is no way he really brewens Sep 2020 #20
My Minnesota genes BainsBane Sep 2020 #23
My Minnesota Norwegian genes are gonna vote his fat white supremacist ass The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #38
Excellent! BainsBane Sep 2020 #46
Spent a good bit a time in Minnesota/Minneapolis cayugafalls Sep 2020 #24
MN has the greatest racial disparities in the nation BainsBane Sep 2020 #47
Disgusting...n/t bluecollar2 Sep 2020 #30
Mutts are always the strongest. Genetic diversity is strength. Marcuse Sep 2020 #31
True. Too much inbreeding, and this is what you get: sandensea Sep 2020 #37
Awww! smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #43
Yeah - Bassets are a handful, but they'll steal your heart sandensea Sep 2020 #45
I am from Minnesota. I live here. My entire life. warmfeet Sep 2020 #33
I would not put much value in a lecture on genetics Dukkha Sep 2020 #36
Yeah, those are some stellar genes, there. LuvNewcastle Sep 2020 #67
He's been pushing this shit for a while. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #41
Trump himself is living proof of the fallacy of white supremacy. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #48
Racehorse genes? Warpy Sep 2020 #44
He's seems fucked up is it genetics? Probably not . If the trumps are the master race it is made lunasun Sep 2020 #49
He said the same thing when he was addressing workers at a Ford plant AdamGG Sep 2020 #51
Remember when he was whining about immigrants from "Shithole countries" and said he wanted NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #52
Not that they'd want to come here. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #55
That's for sure. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #66
The only "good Genes" Trump knows about comes from yuiyoshida Sep 2020 #54
"First they came for the illegal immigrants, and I said nothing.... " steve2470 Sep 2020 #58
This is positively sickening FakeNoose Sep 2020 #61
American women with good genes don't stick around long with him in relationships. Captain Zero Sep 2020 #76
And unwanted hysterectomies in ICE detention? moondust Sep 2020 #64
"Doctor" Mengele would be happy nt steve2470 Sep 2020 #65
More like Good Jeans onetexan Sep 2020 #69
Let him steal another 4 years, and he'll do eugenics, not just talk genetics. ancianita Sep 2020 #70
Another point: madaboutharry Sep 2020 #74
This is where we're heading it looks like more and more. triron Sep 2020 #75
Gross Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #79
I hope someone will ask him on camera which groups of Americans Tanuki Sep 2020 #80
Reminds me of Charles Murray and his book "The Bell Curve". mia Sep 2020 #81
In a nutshell, it's merely victim-blaming. Wednesdays Sep 2020 #83
He raised his kids on that "thoroughbred theory" BS TexasBushwhacker Sep 2020 #82
What a Creepy Fuck Blue Owl Sep 2020 #84
How is this not the top story in every part of the US media DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #85
most dangerous 'president' ever. hands down. crazy-ass mofo. spanone Sep 2020 #86
Says the Psycho who has DEFECTIVE "genes" & Cha Sep 2020 #87

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. How does he know that Minnesotans have good genes?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:36 PM
Sep 2020

Is it because they’re overwhelmingly white?



-Laelth

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
4. His favourite kind of white too
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:40 PM
Sep 2020
Over 85.0% of Minnesota's residents are of European descent, with the largest reported ancestries being German (38.6%), Norwegian (17.0%), Irish (11.9%), and Swedish (9.8%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Minnesota

It's just what a Nazi eugenicist would favour. Stephen Miller writes Trump's words.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
12. The part of Minnesota he visited is overwhelmingly white,
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:42 PM
Sep 2020

except for the Natives on the rez just a few miles away, but I doubt very much that any of them showed at the rally. And Beltrami County Minnesotans are not only white, but mainly German and Scandinavian. "Master race" folks, right? The kind of non-shithole-country people he'd prefer as immigrants even though he doesn't like Angela Merkel. He's not even pretending any more.

bdamomma

(63,840 posts)
40. I guess he forgot
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:36 PM
Sep 2020

his comment "disgusting people". Let him have a health emergency. Guess he does not care that we have lost 200.000 Americans.

It is what it is. Fuck this jerk, get him out now.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
21. I've always loved loved Spike Jones and His City Slickers
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:59 PM
Sep 2020

But! I never noticed until just now which finger they were holding up! Love it!

raging moderate

(4,301 posts)
25. Oh, thank you! Spike Jones and the City Slickers!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:02 PM
Sep 2020

One of my favorite bands! And this was surely one of their best numbers!

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
35. Another fan here!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:31 PM
Sep 2020

Those guys were awesome, so much fun. This stirred up memories from WAY back in the mind vault. Thanks!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
88. Spike Jones always had the right idea for gun usage.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 03:12 PM
Sep 2020

FABULOUS percussion effects for punctuating his orchestra’s performances!

That kind of gun usage I’m totally for!

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
5. Sorry, kpete.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:40 PM
Sep 2020

I can't click on the video and expose myself to that despicable orange hemorrhoid. I won't listen to him either. However, yes, that sort of rhetoric is beyond the pale of reason or good taste. It's Trump. He's not human.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
6. This is why he said this in Minnesota.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:40 PM
Sep 2020

One-third of the population of Minnesota is of Scandinavian/Nordic decent. It is the same Aryan race theory that motivated Hitler.

Trump is a Nazi. He believes in Nazi ideology.

brush

(53,771 posts)
7. The bastard is preaching the "good genes" crap while crowding all those poor suckers...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:41 PM
Sep 2020

shoulder-to-shoulder in yet another super-spreader event—no social distancing...except from himself of course.

He doesn't give a shit about them, figuring they'll still be alive to vote for him in 45 days. To hell with them after that.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
8. He is just so ignorant of history that he has no freaking idea
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:41 PM
Sep 2020

how bad a statement like that plays to those of us who do know what came before us. To make a statement like that would be offensive in the Deep South with our heavily Scottish ancestry, but in Minnesota? It brings up that old Saturday Night Live line, " Don, you ignorant slut."

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
62. Funny thing is, his mom was a Scottish immigrant.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:29 PM
Sep 2020

So he's of German and Scottish ancestry. I'm sure most of the people in Scotland and Germany hate his ass, however.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
63. So true - absolutely!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:30 PM
Sep 2020

Chump makes me sick. What a hideous man with a horrid, withered, blackened soul.





malaise

(268,963 posts)
11. I have way better genes than the Con
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:42 PM
Sep 2020

and I sat all my tests - and oops - I'm very proud of my Afro-Caribbean roots and all the other blood in this racially mixed up human being.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
13. You know all that stuff started in the United States, right?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:48 PM
Sep 2020

It's as American as apple pie. As far as I know Arthur Jensen is still pushing it at UC Berkeley.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
42. Vermont played a large part in the eugenics movement...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:41 PM
Sep 2020

some history in the U.S....

As the concept of eugenics took hold, prominent citizens, scientists and socialists championed the cause and established the Eugenics Record Office. The office tracked families and their genetic traits, claiming most people considered unfit were immigrants, minorities or poor....

...in 1910...founded the Eugenics Record Office at Cold Spring Harbor, and appointed Harry H. Laughlin to direct it. H. H. Laughlin became a spokesman for the programmatic side of the previous eugenics movement, lobbying for eugenic legislation to restrict immigration and sterilize "defectives," educating the public on eugenic health, and disseminating eugenic ideas widely

The Eugenics Record Office also maintained there was clear evidence that supposed negative family traits were caused by bad genes, not racism, economics or the social views of the time.


sterilizations were forced and performed on minorities. Thirty-three states would eventually allow involuntary sterilization in whomever lawmakers deemed unworthy to procreate.

In 1927, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that forced sterilization of the handicapped does not violate the U.S. Constitution. In the words of Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendall Holmes, “…three generations of imbeciles are enough.” In 1942, the ruling was overturned, but not before thousands of people underwent the procedure.

According to a 1976 Government Accountability Office investigation, between 25 and 50 percent of Native Americans were sterilized between 1970 and 1976. It’s thought some sterilizations happened without consent during other surgical procedures such as an appendectomy.

...And Hitler didn’t come up with the concept of a superior Aryan race all on his own...he referred to American eugenics in his 1934 book, Mein Kampf.


http://www.uvm.edu/~eugenics/

https://www.history.com/topics/germany/eugenics

http://library.cshl.edu/special-collections/eugenics

bucolic_frolic

(43,144 posts)
68. Mein Kampf was written way before 1934
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:48 PM
Sep 2020

The roots of genetics go back to Gregor Mendel and his plant hybrids, and Charles Darwin. By 1900 it was assumed Robber Barons were superior to ordinary people, and God put them there, on top, to lead us and make money for them.

Don't forget Herbert Spence and William Graham Sumner, author of the 1884 classic "What the Social Classes Owe to Each Other".

Sumner embraced Social Darwinism and did not believe in natural rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Graham_Sumner#Sumner_and_Social_Darwinism

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
71. Darwin had nothing to do with "social Darwinism."
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:03 PM
Sep 2020

He never made the leap into social stratifications as an analogy for "survival of the fittest." Besides, he saw human beings as one species. Intraspecies competitions for status and wealth were separate and nonbiological issues. "Social Darwinism" became fashionable as robber barons and corporatists took advantage of nonunion workers in the early 20th century.

bucolic_frolic

(43,144 posts)
78. "Nothing to do"?
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:44 AM
Sep 2020

Darwin laid the theory of natural selection. Admittedly he didn't create theories for human hierarchies, but without his theories, where do you get the Darwin in Social Darwinism? Natural selection and genetics were the roots that others applied. It was like a theoretical stew from which sprung theoretical justifications for racism, class structure, cutthroat capitalism, eugenics, even the Scopes monkey trial was taken in.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
77. Thank you
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:14 PM
Sep 2020

As I wrote it, I figured he had to have retired. I didn't know he'd died.

The psychology dept and the ed school used to share Tolman Hall. I used to see Jensen from time to time.

I'm sure someone is carrying on Jensen's "work."

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
22. Talking "pure" race.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:00 PM
Sep 2020

To have a pure breed, dogs, cats, horses or what ever, requires generations of inbreeding. Mothers to sons for many generations. The most viable individuals and most likely to survive, as well as adapt to an environment, are the ones with the most variety in genetic make up.

Or so I heard in school.

Arkansas Granny

(31,515 posts)
26. I would take offence, but I actually know a couple who are first cousins.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:03 PM
Sep 2020

They honestly look more like brother and sister than husband and wife. Their mothers were sisters.

mzmolly

(50,987 posts)
29. LOL
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:07 PM
Sep 2020

I don't mean to offend. I know in some states it's legal to marry a first cousin. Though I believe in MN and AK it's not. I should have said Alabama.

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
32. No offense for me.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:26 PM
Sep 2020

I was born there as was my dad and his dad.

I’m hearing lots of stories from around the country from people that have taking DNA test for ancestors and found some skeletons in the closet.

Retrograde

(10,134 posts)
53. Common in the 19th century
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:05 PM
Sep 2020

or at least not commented on. Queen Victoria and Charles Darwin both married first cousins. So did a lot of European royalty, and their offspring turned out fine. Mostly. Let's not talk about the Spanish Hapsburgs.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
73. You can even see it in literature of the time.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:33 PM
Sep 2020

In Pride and Prejudice, Lizzy's mother desperately wants her to marry her cousin Mr. Collins, while Darcy's aunt is practically trying to force him to marry his cousin, her daughter.

It was viewed as pretty normal at the time.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
50. He's referring to the Scandinavians
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:59 PM
Sep 2020

not in-breeding. But we also have vibrant immigrant communities, especially Somali and Hmong.

brewens

(13,582 posts)
20. Let him try and claim he was speaking to all Minnesotan's. Of course there is no way he really
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:57 PM
Sep 2020

understands anything about genetics. He probably has never had a class where it was involved, read a book, even a novel, not one documentary mentioning genetics. So where is he hearing this? Herr Miller might be coaching him up. Hit him with this at the first debate.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
23. My Minnesota genes
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:00 PM
Sep 2020

already voted his White Supremacist ass out of office.
MN has early voting that started yesterday.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
38. My Minnesota Norwegian genes are gonna vote his fat white supremacist ass
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:34 PM
Sep 2020

out of office as soon as I get my absentee ballot, which I will hand-deliver immediately.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
46. Excellent!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:55 PM
Sep 2020

I voted in person because I mistakenly thought a mail-in ballot wouldn't be counted until after election night, but I found they are actually counted early, along with the in-person early votes.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
24. Spent a good bit a time in Minnesota/Minneapolis
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:01 PM
Sep 2020

Applied for a job at a Human Resource Consulting firm. It was quite telling, not a single poc in the company and their test to get the job was designed to root out low income/minorities. It was over an hour long test and it basically psych profiled you. Their company statement in their brochures said that they were experts at pushing the envelop when creating hiring methodologies.

After twenty minutes and reviewing the test, me and another guy walked out and flopped our unfinished tests on the desk of the recruiter and I told them I decided not to work for their company.

Just a story...I got more. Minnesota nice is just a surface deal, in my opinion. There are some really good people there though, some of my best friends. So it is not all bad, but they do have their issues as do we all.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
47. MN has the greatest racial disparities in the nation
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:57 PM
Sep 2020

on par with Mississippi. It's our great shame.

We do, however, have vibrant immigrant communities, most recently Somalians and other East Africans, and prior to them SE Asians, especially Hmong citizens.

sandensea

(21,626 posts)
45. Yeah - Bassets are a handful, but they'll steal your heart
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:51 PM
Sep 2020

Just make sure you have a yard if you ever get one.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
33. I am from Minnesota. I live here. My entire life.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:27 PM
Sep 2020

I cannot say exactly what needs to happen to this complete asshole, fascist, nazi, prick. You probably know what it is though. Same goes for every follower and enabler. Self defense requires certain actions.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
36. I would not put much value in a lecture on genetics
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:33 PM
Sep 2020

from a man who can't walk down a ramp, can't negotiate an umbrella, can't drink a glass of water with one hand, has to paint himself orange and comb over a bleach dye job and still look stupid, slurs his speech, can't read a teleprompter... it goes on and on.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
67. Yeah, those are some stellar genes, there.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:44 PM
Sep 2020

And just look at his kids! Why, they have 'master race' written all over their simian postures and bovine expressions.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
41. He's been pushing this shit for a while.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:41 PM
Sep 2020

It's dangerous and it will only get worse if he's not taken out. Funny how so many people with inferior genetics seem to be the most insistent on genetic profiling. Talking about the "master race" while they are clearly so far from it.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
44. Racehorse genes?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:43 PM
Sep 2020

Inbreeding has led to health problems and physical disasters for racehorses. As for humans, take a close look at the European aristocracy for the most recent example of eugenics and inbreeding for bloodlines.

I date them.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
49. He's seems fucked up is it genetics? Probably not . If the trumps are the master race it is made
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:58 PM
Sep 2020

with genes for sociopaths,mind altering substance abuse, and plastic surgery
Fake race! Some like Kushner have changed to look almost like some alien race 8

I don’t know why trump appeals to some people in Minnesota but I’m told there is not enough to get him a win. Still it’s creepy what gets acknowledged at his rallies ,

(well I know this kind of talk is part of why yes, but how it turned to trump of all people appealing in MN is my quandary )

AdamGG

(1,289 posts)
51. He said the same thing when he was addressing workers at a Ford plant
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:04 PM
Sep 2020

He told them that they had "good bloodlines". Henry Ford was a Nazi sympathizer and hardcore anti-semite who printed 500,000 copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a Jew hating phony conspiracy manifesto from 1903 Russia, and required Ford dealerships to distribute them. Ford was the only American mentioned by name in Mein Kampf.

Trump does not make these comments by accident. It's like during the 2016 campaign when he tried to pretend that he didn't know who David Duke was when asked a direct question about him. This is Steve Bannon/Stephen Miller shit that is directly aimed to the white supremacist audience. Stormfront and David Duke publicly acknowledge it.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
58. "First they came for the illegal immigrants, and I said nothing.... "
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:16 PM
Sep 2020
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
61. This is positively sickening
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:27 PM
Sep 2020

Besides that - anyone with truly good genes would have rejected Chump long ago!


ancianita

(36,041 posts)
70. Let him steal another 4 years, and he'll do eugenics, not just talk genetics.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:01 PM
Sep 2020

He's ready to own the rights to commodify the human genome map for leverage and control of big pharma and every other death panel tool he can get.

With his "soberly accepted" herd mentality plan of 70% of us with COVID and 6 million dead, he's already dangling an amerikkkan holocaust vision.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
74. Another point:
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:45 PM
Sep 2020

If people in Minnesota have such superior genes then why are they such bad drivers? Driving in Minneapolis is terrifying. Seriously.

triron

(21,999 posts)
75. This is where we're heading it looks like more and more.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:46 PM
Sep 2020

What will history say of us? That we failed utterly?

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
79. Gross
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:57 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:16 PM - Edit history (1)

My mom is from Minnesota and of German descent. There's nothing special about my family and their genes. This is insulting and disgusting. It is disgusting because he is valuing people based on who they are related to rather than who the individual is and what they have accomplished. Figures he would do that though because he would be an unsuccessful nobody if he was born into a different family.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
80. I hope someone will ask him on camera which groups of Americans
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:08 AM
Sep 2020

he believes, unlike Minnesotans and himself, to have "bad genes." And don't let him off the hook when he attempts to deflect and deny.

mia

(8,360 posts)
81. Reminds me of Charles Murray and his book "The Bell Curve".
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:57 AM
Sep 2020

I was a psychology student when it came out in 1994. The book caused a huge uproar in the Social Sciences and was widely disparaged.

According to Murray, disadvantaged groups are disadvantaged because, on average, they cannot compete with white men, who are intellectually, psychologically and morally superior. Murray advocates the total elimination of the welfare state, affirmative action and the Department of Education, arguing that public policy cannot overcome the innate deficiencies that cause unequal social and educational outcomes.

In his own words
"A huge number of well-meaning whites fear that they are closet racists, and this book tells them they are not. It's going to make them feel better about things they already think but do not know how to say.”
—regarding his book, Losing Ground, quoted in “Daring Research or Social Science Pornography?: Charles Murray,” The New York Times Magazine, 1994

“The professional consensus is that the United States has experienced dysgenic pressures throughout either most of the century (the optimists) or all of the century (the pessimists). Women of all races and ethnic groups follow this pattern in similar fashion. There is some evidence that blacks and Latinos are experiencing even more severe dysgenic pressures than whites, which could lead to further divergence between whites and other groups in future generations.”
—The Bell Curve, 1994

“Try to imagine a … presidential candidate saying in front of the cameras, ‘One reason that we still have poverty in the United States is that a lot of poor people are born lazy.’ You cannot imagine it because that kind of thing cannot be said. And yet this unimaginable statement merely implies that when we know the complete genetic story, it will turn out that the population below the poverty line in the United States has a configuration of the relevant genetic makeup that is significantly different from the configuration of the population above the poverty line. This is not unimaginable. It is almost certainly true.”
—“Deeper Into the Brain,” National Review, 2000....


https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/charles-murray

TexasBushwhacker

(20,184 posts)
82. He raised his kids on that "thoroughbred theory" BS
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 11:33 AM
Sep 2020

They were even told that Ivana was an alternate on the Czech Olympic skiing team, which was a big lie.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
85. How is this not the top story in every part of the US media
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:21 PM
Sep 2020

Oops, sorry, I forgot: it's 2020. And I also forgot it's the American media.

This is repulsive on so many different levels.

Trump: speaking of genes, you're ugly, as well as completely out of shape, and you weren't even fit to go to the Army (thanks to the fake medicals that said you had "bone spurs&quot when you were younger. Plus, you're dumb and evil as can be. You shouldn't be talking about anyone's genes except your own awful ones.

Look at yourself in the mirror. You probably don't because you can't bear to see what you would see. That's probably one reason you look as ridiculous as you do.

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