If we could split the country in half would you do it

[Proud liberal 80]

We have liberals, moderates, and conservatives everywhere so it’s not as easy as blue states/red states, but if it was decided to split the country and the left got half and the right got half while the moderates had to decide where the wanted to live would this be a good thing?

[Skittles]

1. NO

[Proud liberal 80]

5. And why not

They say that a country and a society at least have to agree on core principles that bring them together while being able to have fierce debate and disagreements on other things, but it’s to the point that we don’t even agree on anything

[Skittles]

23. I honestly don't see this as worth of discussion

all I'll say, is, North and South Korea, East and West Germany, um NO

we work through our problems, we don't let fascism take over

[regnaD kciN]

31. Unfortunately, the usual outcome of such countries/societies...

...isn't a mutually-acceptable separation, but the faction that has the power crushing the faction that doesn't until the latter gives up or resists to their death.

[jorgevlorgan]

2. Not a chance

We've figured ourselves out before without a war or splitting up, and we can do it again.

[Proud liberal 80]

7. Things seem to be getting worse and worse

We can’t even agree on wearing a freaking mask during a pandemic

[jorgevlorgan]

13. Have faith, my friend

It might still get a lot worse before it gets better. But I guarantee you it will get better.

[Golden Raisin]

28. Didn't we have a Civil War?

[Sherman A1]

3. Pardon me for a moment

[JHB]

4. No. Too many good people consigned to Nazi Conservostan

Never call it "Trumpism".

[Proud liberal 80]

15. Good people?

[JHB]

22. Sorry, I thought this was like numerous "split the red states off" posts...

...that would ignore and leave adrift all the non-MAGAts within their borders.

I hadn't realized this was a fantasy exercise where we magically separate "good" people and "bad" people, and nobody's conflicted because family and loved ones end up on the other side.

Carry on then, but in that case, why should anyone care about the answer? It has no connection to reality.

[bamagal62]

6. Maybe. As long as I'm in the good part.

[Sneederbunk]

8. I think the Confederates learned this was not a good idea.

The hard way.

[Stallion]

9. Seem to be Playing 20 questions?

What's up with 'dat?

[matt819]

10. Yes (nt)

[Phoenix61]

11. Ummmm, that's been tried. It caused massive

casualties and ultimately didn’t work. So no, I don’t think so.

[Proud liberal 80]

14. I guess you didn't get my point of everyone agreeing to it

Without war

[Phoenix61]

16. If we could all agree on anything we wouldn't

be in this situation.

[Proud liberal 80]

17. Lol true

[C_U_L8R]

12. Nah, just send them back to the dark greasy pit they came from

[csziggy]

18. No, because it wouldn't work

Too many people are invested in where they live and would not give it up, plus if you divided the country geographically the two parts would still fight.

I live in the American South, have always lived in Florida, have lived at my present location for over forty years. I will NOT give up my property even if it meant that more of my neighbors would be right wing nut jobs. This place is mine and my husband and I have worked hard to make it what it is. We will not leave it - we plan to die here.

At the time of the American Civil War, if the North had said, "OK guys, you just go on and make your own country" what do you think would have happened? The South would still have declared war - they could not survive economically without the North. They would have fought for domination even if the North did not want to fight. This country and the world do not need that happening again.

[kimbutgar]

19. Never, United we survive divideD we fall we are the United States

But if comes down to having an authoritarian leader vs democracy I’m all in for succession.

[BannonsLiver]

20. Are we doing a stream of consciousness thing today?

It’s cool to self edit. Just throwing that out there.

[Buckeyeblue]

21. The Left side would have way better music.

[Skittles]

24. we'd have way better of a LOT of things

absolutely

[stillcool]

25. I think it will split geographically...

it already is kind of...like when Covid hit and the Governors of states got together to make a plan.

[regnaD kciN]

30. The problem with that is...

...that, geographically, we don't have neatly-drawn "blue states" and "red states." What we really have, if you look at it from a geographic viewpoint, is a bunch of liberal cities and everywhere outside them conservative. If you looked at a map, you'd see an ocean of various red shades with a few bright blue dots.

The west coast is thought to be among the most liberal parts of the country, but, even here in Washington state, that's because of a concentration of Democratic/progressive voters in Seattle and Tacoma. Even when you get out to my part of the Seattle exurbs, I'd guess it's split 50-50 at best. Anywhere beyond that, and you may as well be in Wyoming. The same is true of Oregon and California. If these states were to split off from the U.S., by mutual agreement or otherwise, you'd find the vast majority of the territory held by right-wingers. And, since they have full control of most of the land and infrastructure (and almost all of the guns), what you'd probably see in those states is instant internecine civil war, as the right-wingers would fight to either take control or bring the state back under the Trumpian dominion.

The only geographical split, even an amicable one, that would avoid such a conflict would result in about 99% of the country being under conservative control, with a bunch of disconnected progressive "city-states" existing as Bantustans inside that country, most disconnected from any resources, agriculture, or, in some cases, even a port for imports and exports. Anyone care to bet how long such an arrangement would last?

[regnaD kciN]

26. Remember what happened after the end of the U.S.S.R.?

It split into a whole plethora of independent states (as a matter of fact, for a time, it was officially known as "the Community of Independent States" ). Twenty-five years later, what did you see? Virtually all of those "independent states" have now been subsumed under Mother Russia...because they retained all the military power. I see no reason to believe that a split here at this time wouldn't eventually have the same result.

[rockfordfile]

27. No

[Hekate]

29. You mean like India and Pakistan? Those festering wounds will never heal.

No. Just no.

[Initech]

32. Like Isreal and Palestine? Yeah let's not go there.

[Meowmee]

33. I would be quite happy for my state and others close by to join Canada

I will probably end up back there anyway and then I don’t have to move. My county has a fair amount of r though, dumpster won the county, I am sure they would hate that.