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(16,377 posts)gristy
(10,667 posts)yes
pazzyanne
(6,549 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)I fail to see anything positive or ominous.
What's the connection?
I'd hope our SC judges come with a law degree, preferably in Constitutional law.
Here's one that comes with years of relatable & credible skillset, one being discused that has a Harvard Law Degree...etc
To honor Justice Ginsburg's legacy, Biden should consider Michelle Obama
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/517211-to-honor-justice-ginsburgs-legacy-biden-should-consider-michelle-obama%3Famp
SNIP
She graduated from public schools and studied sociology and African American studies at Princeton University.
After graduating from Harvard Law School in 1988, she joined the Chicago law firm of Sidley & Austin, where she later met Barack Obama.
She went on to work as assistant commissioner of planning and development in City Hall and as executive director of the Chicago chapter of Public Allies, an AmeriCorps program that prepares youth for public service.
In 1996, she joined the University of Chicago as associate dean of student services, and then as the vice president of community and external affairs for the UC Medical Center, all while balancing the demands of work and motherhood. In short, she is the real deal.
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This is the base requirement for the work of a SC judge.
AOC isn't in the same league as an SC Judge.
Michele Obama's daughters are more qualified in law than AOC.
Sorry but that is just a fact.
Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)More that tough strong women are whats needed for our time..and that is correct
Budi
(15,325 posts)I can name about 6 dozen women who stand far far ahead of AOC on respecting women & the fight for the ERA.
She has a long long way to go to be ever in that category of women of influence in the fight for women's rights.
Skin care videos on social media don't fit that role of the women who actually gave AOC the right to do so.
She needs to study & respect those who've gone before her.
I don't think she gets it.
Wow is right.
Trashing this thread ..
Illumination
(2,458 posts)AOC is going a GREAT JOB!...
Lonestarblue
(9,981 posts)Like RBG, she is not afraid to speak her mind. She is still learning the nuances of governing, but, again like RBG, she will be a force to reckon with in the future. That does not denigrate RBG. It honors her as a role model for the strong women, and men, we need to carry this nation forward.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)the two look and think.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Please...🙄
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)She is also taking no crap from the powers that be, much like RBG did all her life. You can't demand the same from a 15 year old single malt scotch and a green bourbon . . .
So I beg to differ.
malaise
(268,966 posts)Thank you
Alpeduez21
(1,751 posts)message received and understood.
However, RBG was a rebel and progressive before her icon status became entrenched. AOC could become an icon, if biases against her because she's not RBG could be overcome.
Well-behaved women rarely make history. Laurel Thatcher Ulrich.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)But were more polite about it.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Gothmog
(145,168 posts)I do not see any basis for this comparison
They are very different women in very different worlds. Ruth Bader Ginsburg really was not very political. She was devoted to the law and actually was considered rather conservative when she was nominated. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a dynamic progressive politician, who probably has a promising future ahead of her, but they are not in the same league. I don't see any similarities at all, other than they are successful women.
Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)Her caring, devotion to democracy and willingness to back Joe Biden
Thank you AOC!!
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)Like any politician, I don't agree with 100% of what she says and does, but I think she has a bright future ahead of her in politics.
George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,750 posts)Jahana just tested positive for COVID.
George II
(67,782 posts)....and other than not being able to meet with people in person this hasn't slowed her down one bit. A low key, but very effective Congresswoman.
I wish I could move a few miles west of here, she'd be my Congresswoman. But Larson isn't chopped liver, either!
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)Kudos to her.
Makes you wonder about the tests, I am talking about the swabs here, not the WH 'insta-tests'...a positive can be negative and a negative can be positive. Scary times.
George II
(67,782 posts)Here's today's CNN article:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/20/politics/jahana-hayes-coronavirus/index.html
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)We still know very little about the disease. The long tern effects are only now being noted.
One of the health effects that CDC is closely watching and working to understand relates to COVID-19 and the heart. Heart conditions associated with COVID-19 include inflammation and damage to the heart muscle itself, known as myocarditis, or inflammation of the covering of the heart, known as pericarditis. These conditions can occur by themselves or in combination. Heart damage may be an important part of severe disease and death from COVID-19, especially in older people with underlying illness. Heart damage like this might also explain some frequently reported long-term symptoms like shortness of breath, chest pain, and heart palpitations.
The risk of heart damage may not be limited to older and middle-aged adults. For example, young adults with COVID-19, including athletes, can also suffer from myocarditis. Severe heart damage has occurred in young, healthy people, but is rare. There may be more cases of mild effects of COVID-19 on the heart that can be diagnosed with special imaging tests, including in younger people with mild or minimal symptoms; however, the long-term significance of these mild effects on the heart are unknown. CDC will continue to assess and provide updates as new data emerge.
The best strategies for preventing COVID-19 infection in youth and adults are to wear a mask in public places, stay at least 6 feet away from other people, frequently wash your hands, and avoid crowds and confined or poorly ventilated spaces.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)sandensea
(21,627 posts)Resolute.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)I suggest you edit your post. I am a WASP, white, Protestant and have some Anglo Saxon ancestry, minus the money. A mutt actually.
That term is offensive. Your whole post is offensive
Please delete.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)I do.
sandensea
(21,627 posts)I meant to underscore the way Republicans typically feel about women, and what they believe is acceptable in a woman or not.
That's precisely one of the things that I dislike the most about them.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)murielm99
(30,736 posts)and an established, iconic legal scholar and judge.
RBG broke important ground. AOC should be thankful for RBG's pioneering life. I doubt she would have her position without RBG and a few other women like her.
AOC has no law degree. She has a lot to prove before she deserves anything approaching the respect RBG earned at the same age.
It is premature and it dishonors RBG's memory to make any comparisons.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)marble falls
(57,080 posts)of strength, determination, intelligence, integrity from two women who work/worked for us.
I found their similarity striking and a source of calm facing into what we have to do and what we have to prevent during this next four months. I don't expect any quarter from the RW and I just hope I have temperament, and strength of conviction both Justice Ginsberg or Rep AOC are both noted for.
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marble falls
(57,080 posts)like her well enough. She's doing just fine in Congress.
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)By the time, RBG was AOC's current age she has a ton of accomplishments in the real world. I personally find this comparison to be wrong
marble falls
(57,080 posts)or cut AOC not something Justice Ginsburg would do and doesn't do a thing to honor her.
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)At the same age, RBG was a law professor and has already argued some significant cases. I simply do not see the comparison
marble falls
(57,080 posts)young women at the start of their careers in public service. I offered a snap shot of the two of women at their beginnings.
Making anything more of it is an attempt at ginning up a controversy that just is not there.
AOC isn't another Ginsburg, she is an all origional AOC. But they both came out of the same place: working honestly for us.
Cha
(297,181 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Gothmog
(145,168 posts)I do not see the comparison
PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)I think our party needs EVEN MORE strong women like AOC, Katie Porter, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar. It does.
I'm glad Biden picked Harris, and I'm happy for what Stacey Abrams is doing down in GA. These are good things.
Upthevibe
(8,041 posts)Excellent post. Thank you....
marble falls
(57,080 posts)reflected in AOC's face. AOC may or may not be on a level of the Justice someday, but she shows the determination to do the people's work - the same way Justice Ginsburg did so well. I've been through two major cancer surgeries in the last three years. And five minor cancer surgeries in the since 2008. I have a pretty good idea the grit she had to do stay on the courts and do her work for us as well as she did is something that 20 years younger I know I couldn't do it. Plus my cancers do not respond to radiation or chemo so add the burden to her challenge.
I don't think AOC will be another Ginsburg, but I do believe she's got long career working for us and she'll an AOC to respect and remember.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Shes the first AOC, and for my thinking, thats damned good enough!!
Butterflylady
(3,543 posts)Well, they say, we all have a twin.
Alpeduez21
(1,751 posts)Thank you for this.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)so there's that. They don't look alike at all.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not a bit.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)the photo portraits show similarities in age, coloring and the powerful expression of the eyes.
Look at those peeps, one happy, bright- eyed child.
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-has-died-2019-8
onecent
(6,096 posts)before the voting.......
RIP!!!
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)I like that. Comforting thought.
Thank you. Life goes on and AOC is our future. More like her, please.
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)She was one of our best soldiers. She fought so hard, and she fought for so long. And now, we are so sad.
So we will pause here and rest a while, and we will remember all that she was. We will tell stories of all that she did.
Then, when we have rested a bit, when we have recovered some of our strength, when we are ready, we shall press on.
Because the fight still goes on, and there are many battles to be won, and she would not have wanted us to stop for too long.
So we fight on. We fight on for the soldier that we just lost, and we fight on for all of the others that we lost.
We also fight for all of the soldiers that still live and need to be protected, as well as for their children.
We fight for all that is good and right and beautiful and glorious.
We will remember all that she was, and we will fight on.
earth2jim
(7 posts)For their dedication to us all. We don't need to attempt to honor one by belittling another. Neither would approve and thank you for the great pictures.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Thank you Ruth, Thank you Alexandria. I will vote accordingly.
Just a subtle hint,
AOC should be POTUS
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)MyMission
(1,850 posts)Comparing apples and oranges= They're both fruit, and grow on trees, and are sweet, and full of good nutrients. That's a lot in common.
Comparing RBG and AOC = One's a lawyer, one's a politician; both are champions of human rights, women's rights. One's Jewish, one's Hispanic, both understand prejudice, and the need for equality and equity. That's a lot in common.
Those who are upset by these comparisons, get over it!
We need more like both if them in our government.
dsharp88
(487 posts)Obviously, AOC has a long way to go to become an American legend like RGB.
First, John Lewis, and now RGB. 2020 sucks.
Layzeebeaver
(1,623 posts)Perhaps the photo of AOC should also be B&W?
burrowowl
(17,639 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's an odd comparison. I think RBG's CV and educational achievements are FAR more impressive... Cornell, Harvard, Columbia... even when RBG was the same age, she had done much more. At age 30, she was a law professor at Rutgers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg#Early_career
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez#Early_career
So... I think it's fair to say that based on my observations... other than their hairstyle, dark eyes, arched eyebrows and oval face, I'm not seeing any substantive similarities between the two.