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Me.

(35,454 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:49 PM Sep 2020

I Can't Believe THe Senate Passed A Resolution Affirming Peaceful Power Transfer

Senate Passes Resolution Affirming Peaceful Power Transfer In Rebuke Of Trump

“The U.S. Senate on Thursday unanimously passed a resolution promoting the peaceful transfer of power after an election, a clear shot across the bow aimed at President Trump over his refusal to commit to accepting such a transfer.

Asked during a press briefing on Wednesday if he would adhere to a peaceful transfer of power after the election “win, lose or draw,” Trump replied, “we’re gonna have to see what happens,” citing his opposition to mail in ballots and stating “get rid of the ballots and… there won’t be a transfer, frankly, we’ll have a continuation.”

Top Republican lawmakers, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), responded by committing to a peaceful transfer but did not condemn Trump directly, and White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Thursday that Trump would accept a “free and fair” election while Trump said he’s “not sure it can be” honest.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/24/senate-passes-resolution-affirming-peaceful-power-transfer-in-rebuke-of-trump/#18f8a33274b6

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I Can't Believe THe Senate Passed A Resolution Affirming Peaceful Power Transfer (Original Post) Me. Sep 2020 OP
Yeah a peaceful transfer or non-transfer after they tie it up in the courts for 2 months. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2020 #1
Wow, Buzz Kill Me. Sep 2020 #4
Ikr.. It still gives me a heartwarming Cha Sep 2020 #6
It Is A 2-Fer IMHO Me. Sep 2020 #9
It really chaps some people's cheeks to see success where are looking for failure, doesn't it? ehrnst Sep 2020 #10
Right? Me. Sep 2020 #12
Sorry, I just don't trust Mitch and the repigs to do anything meaningful or the right thing when the Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2020 #36
That resolution is as honest and binding as them not confirming a SC judge before an election. Autumn Sep 2020 #52
If it is tied up in the court(s?) for two months then Nancy Pelosi becomes President.... George II Sep 2020 #8
I Hadn't Thought Of That Me. Sep 2020 #11
Lulz. ehrnst Sep 2020 #13
... Me. Sep 2020 #14
LMAO sheshe2 Sep 2020 #17
... betsuni Sep 2020 #23
Ha! Cary Sep 2020 #59
Until it gets ironed out... sheshe2 Sep 2020 #19
If they do that, then we get President Pelosi dansolo Sep 2020 #48
The Biden team is prepared to deal with this litigation Gothmog Sep 2020 #56
The Biden campaign and the party are gearing up to fight these fights Gothmog Sep 2020 #57
Absolutely. If Biden puts him down on election night or even the next day it's a done deal. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2020 #58
That it is necessary is unbelievable NT Rorey Sep 2020 #2
Will they pass an actual law requiring it? jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #3
You think Comrade Casino would sign it? ehrnst Sep 2020 #15
It's fluff for idiots. It lacks any statutory power to prevent any situation in which Trump refuses Autumn Sep 2020 #54
What was the actual wording. I'm sure they will agree to a peaceful transfer of power if OregonBlue Sep 2020 #5
The link does not have a paywall. Main takeaway: it may be symbolic, but it's a powerful symbol... Hekate Sep 2020 #47
Republicans want us to be peaceful if the new SCOTUS hands Trump the election. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #7
Exactly. They want to buy electors in their states who then vote for Trump and claim OregonBlue Sep 2020 #51
For the Democrats it means everyone play fair. For Republicans it means You stay peaceful... bullimiami Sep 2020 #16
Oh snap! sheshe2 Sep 2020 #18
... Me. Sep 2020 #22
Back at ya! sheshe2 Sep 2020 #25
Translation - "the courts will decide, DAMN the will of the ppl" alittlelark Sep 2020 #20
Actually The SC Put It's 2 Cents In, In July Me. Sep 2020 #21
Thank you for this! sheshe2 Sep 2020 #39
Not really dansolo Sep 2020 #49
Rethugs will legislate through the Courts. They don't need or want tRump anymore. njhoneybadger Sep 2020 #24
Precisely Me. Sep 2020 #26
Nothing Republicans say means anything RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #27
Knowing the Senate R's typical behavior, this is nothing more than a manipulation of their NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #28
I. Do. Not. Trust. Them. Talitha Sep 2020 #29
I still don't trust them. Peaceful if tRump wins just to keep Dems quiet b/c they signed. mitch96 Sep 2020 #30
Don't Trust Them Me. Sep 2020 #37
I think secretly, they all hate him and see him as a threat to our democracy. MoonchildCA Sep 2020 #31
That's what Al Franken said back when he was a senator. mucifer Sep 2020 #32
My thoughts aligning with Senator Franken makes me feel pretty special. MoonchildCA Sep 2020 #34
The interesting thing is he was talking about real conversations he had. But, things might mucifer Sep 2020 #38
Very Insightful Me. Sep 2020 #35
Right? In a way, the thought gives me hope. MoonchildCA Sep 2020 #40
I don't watch anything where there's a chance I'll hear it speak. Iggo Sep 2020 #33
Just thinking back to Corey L on Election Night Grokenstein Sep 2020 #41
Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes Sep 2020 #42
It's Shocking.... COL Mustard Sep 2020 #43
What's shocking is how many people think it is genuine. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2020 #55
What Trump really meant to say: keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #44
I don't trust Repukes at all! burrowowl Sep 2020 #45
I hate to be cynical karin_sj Sep 2020 #46
I can believe it Bettie Sep 2020 #50
Well, MitchCo did get what they wanted ... Auggie Sep 2020 #53
To Republicans, this only means a continuation of their power. WyattKansas Sep 2020 #60

Cha

(297,774 posts)
6. Ikr.. It still gives me a heartwarming
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:04 PM
Sep 2020

feeling to know this was passed unanimously. They could have not passed with the maggats refusing.

Mahalo for the news, Me!

Wonder how the Psycho in the WH likes it?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. It Is A 2-Fer IMHO
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:07 PM
Sep 2020

It is the first attempt at a decent thing they've done in 4 years and it will really tick him off.

Aloha Hoa...

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. It really chaps some people's cheeks to see success where are looking for failure, doesn't it?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:07 PM
Sep 2020

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,345 posts)
36. Sorry, I just don't trust Mitch and the repigs to do anything meaningful or the right thing when the
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:37 PM
Sep 2020

... chips are down. A non binding resolution doesn’t mean shit to trump and his team/lawyers.

Just like I never thought for a second Romney and Grassley would do the right thing re the Supreme Court.

Our best hope is a decisive win on election night. If it’s close and there is a “blue shift” it could be ugly. And Senate Republicans won’t lift a finger.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
52. That resolution is as honest and binding as them not confirming a SC judge before an election.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:43 AM
Sep 2020

Republicans are going to Republican.



George II

(67,782 posts)
8. If it is tied up in the court(s?) for two months then Nancy Pelosi becomes President....
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:07 PM
Sep 2020

What's wrong with that?

On another note, I see you're still using gifs of little girls being abused in your signature.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
48. If they do that, then we get President Pelosi
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:49 AM
Sep 2020

If Trump loses the election, he is gone. He tries to tie things up, he is still gone.

Gothmog

(145,635 posts)
56. The Biden team is prepared to deal with this litigation
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:49 PM
Sep 2020

In Texas, the state party working with the Biden campaign is recruiting a good number of lawyers to fight trump and GOP voter suppression both before and after the election. This is a fight that the Biden campaign is not worried about.

Gothmog

(145,635 posts)
57. The Biden campaign and the party are gearing up to fight these fights
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 02:09 AM
Sep 2020

One of the best way of fighting this crap is to win up and down the ballot. It will Be easier if Biden and other democrats win up and down the ballot.



Trump is a bully and will back down


The party is raising money to fight the GOP up and down the ballot

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,345 posts)
58. Absolutely. If Biden puts him down on election night or even the next day it's a done deal.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 02:19 AM
Sep 2020

Taking The Senate would go a long way.

Money is great. I just hope the powers that be remember a big take away from Florida 2000. I forget who said it “we were fighting a legal battle and they were fighting a street battle”

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. You think Comrade Casino would sign it?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:12 PM
Sep 2020

There is no such thing as forcing a signature from a POTUS.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
54. It's fluff for idiots. It lacks any statutory power to prevent any situation in which Trump refuses
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:56 AM
Sep 2020

to accept the result of the election.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
5. What was the actual wording. I'm sure they will agree to a peaceful transfer of power if
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:59 PM
Sep 2020

the election outcome is one they agree with.

Hekate

(90,848 posts)
47. The link does not have a paywall. Main takeaway: it may be symbolic, but it's a powerful symbol...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:12 AM
Sep 2020

Detractors are saying versions of “big whoop,” but it is notable that the resolution passed unanimously —- which is as rare as a unicorn sighting in DC these days.

Even Repub Senators are expressing concern (read: controlled panic & probably extra alcohol consumption) about Trump’s out and out autocratic declarations over the past few days. Seems like it’s come home to them that this is a problem of major proportions.

I think it’s a good sign.

Also, I think it’s hitting them that they could lose their seats.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
7. Republicans want us to be peaceful if the new SCOTUS hands Trump the election.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:07 PM
Sep 2020

We have to make sure that it doesn't come down to that. All that we have to do is turnout.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
51. Exactly. They want to buy electors in their states who then vote for Trump and claim
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:35 AM
Sep 2020

Trump won and there must be a peaceful transfer of power. What they don't realize is if they pull that crap there will be demonstrations and violence in this country like they never imagined. I'm 71 years old and I will be taking to the street and not in a respectful way.

bullimiami

(13,105 posts)
16. For the Democrats it means everyone play fair. For Republicans it means You stay peaceful...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:15 PM
Sep 2020

while we steal another election.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
21. Actually The SC Put It's 2 Cents In, In July
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:29 PM
Sep 2020

From July 14

"And second, the Court’s decision reinforces the validity of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Under National Popular Vote, states that combine for at least 270 electoral votes agree to award their electors to the presidential candidate who wins the most individual votes across the nation. (Fifteen states and the District of Columbia, totaling 196 electoral votes, have already passed the measure.)

In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes inside the state, and there are no additional requirements placed upon the elector"

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
49. Not really
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:53 AM
Sep 2020

They were addressing faithless electors, and the conservatives on the court were probably more concerned about electors choosing to not vote for Trump. Don't believe for a minute that they will consider it to apply to anything beyond that.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
24. Rethugs will legislate through the Courts. They don't need or want tRump anymore.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:35 PM
Sep 2020

I don't believe the Supreme Court is going to help tRump win. It's over for tRump fucking us, now The Supreme Court will fuck us for the next 20 years. That has always been their goal. There is no way in hell McConnell would pass this if he wanted tRump to continue as President.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
27. Nothing Republicans say means anything
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:54 PM
Sep 2020

I mean, you've seen all the quotes about Scalia's seat versus RBG's seat.

I expect Cruz and Paul and the like will be out this weekend to say Biden is the one trying to start unrest.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
28. Knowing the Senate R's typical behavior, this is nothing more than a manipulation of their
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:56 PM
Sep 2020

constituents in an effort to hold on to their seats come November.

First off, a resolution is not needed for this. The Constitution has said all that needs to be said on this topic. It's a note to the voters. A greeting card that means nothing.

Second, they've done next to nothing for nearly 4 years. There are 400 Bills sitting in the Senate waiting to be voted on.
*Hey, Kentucky, We'd love to help you get Mitch McConnell out of office. It's time for him to go. Vote him out please so the Senate can start representing the People who sent them there.

Third, they're scared. Their boss is going to lose and so, so many of them will lose as well. Not only that, but they could be taking the entire Republican party with them.

mitch96

(13,926 posts)
30. I still don't trust them. Peaceful if tRump wins just to keep Dems quiet b/c they signed.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:18 PM
Sep 2020

Color me cynical and I think they/them are going to try to rig the election in their favor.
Shades of putin and Belarus.. YMMV
m

Me.

(35,454 posts)
37. Don't Trust Them
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:37 PM
Sep 2020

THey are boxing themselves in along with him.

Edited to add this link to a relevant to this conversation Luckovich cartoon:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214131036

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
31. I think secretly, they all hate him and see him as a threat to our democracy.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:27 PM
Sep 2020

This is why they are pushing so hard to rush the Supreme Court justice through. One last hurrah for them. It’s what they wanted all along, and if they get it, they’ve squeezed their last useful drop out of him. They’ll have the courts. That’s what they want. I’m sure they’ll wish him good riddance, wait four years for the next crazy right wing leader to emerge—just not Trump crazy—and they will believe the ship has been righted.

mucifer

(23,575 posts)
38. The interesting thing is he was talking about real conversations he had. But, things might
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:40 PM
Sep 2020

have changed since then. Power corrupts and there may be bribes and stuff.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
40. Right? In a way, the thought gives me hope.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:41 PM
Sep 2020

I’ve been so worried about this election being stolen, in some weird unforeseen way, and us slipping into a complete authoritarian country.

If they don’t actually want him either, it gives us a foot in the door to keep this from ever happening again.

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
41. Just thinking back to Corey L on Election Night
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 11:32 PM
Sep 2020

Screaming angrily because Hillary didn't concede quickly enough to suit his worthless Nazi ass.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
55. What's shocking is how many people think it is genuine.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:58 AM
Sep 2020

It isn't. They are talking out both sides of their mouths, blabbering about peaceful transfer of power while stacking the Supreme Court in an effort to rig the election in Trump's favor.

karin_sj

(812 posts)
46. I hate to be cynical
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:13 AM
Sep 2020

But I don't trust the republicans for a moment. And I'm not reassured by what Graham said:

“And people wonder about the peaceful transfer of power. I assure you, it will be peaceful,” Graham said. “Now, we may have litigation about who won the election, but the court will decide, and if the Republicans lose, we will accept that result.”

Easy to say when you pack the Supreme Court full of conservative judges.

Bettie

(16,130 posts)
50. I can believe it
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:30 AM
Sep 2020

they are galloping hypocrites.

They will say anything, but then do the opposite.

Because they lie and they know that their base doesn't care.

Plus, the put qualifiers of "free and fair" in there, that means that they plan to declare that the election wasn't free and fair, their proof: they didn't win.

Auggie

(31,204 posts)
53. Well, MitchCo did get what they wanted ...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:49 AM
Sep 2020

a ton of right wing federal judges and two, maybe three, seats on the Supreme Court. I think they're content to wait until the next opportunity is presented ... could be years, maybe.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
60. To Republicans, this only means a continuation of their power.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:56 AM
Sep 2020

The media needs to start putting all Republicans on the spot by drilling down into their incessant double talk about ever giving up any control of anything. If they don't win absolute rule, they are determined to disable and/or destroy the United States to prevent the country from any success.

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