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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBest logical explanation yet of why 45's ballot disqualification charade is just that!
In some cases you have up to twenty or thirty candidates on the ballot. And thats true whether you mail your ballot in or slog it out at the voting booth. Literally thousands of elections are happening on November 3rd, not just Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden. Do we really expect every single Democrat on those mail-in ballots, candidates for county solicitors, city councils, school boards, district justices, sheriffs, Senators, Congressmen and Congresswomen, Clerks, Prothonotaries, Mayors, Judges, Attorneys General, Governors, Lieutenant Governors, state representatives and state senators, to sit there quietly while Donald Trumps distinctly unstellar lawyers tie upand possibly ruin-- their careers for what could be months of litigation by bogus allegations of fraud? For that matter, how many Republican candidates for office are going to be willing to stand for that? Now multiply that by a whole lot of states, and youll see a morass emerging on an incalculable scale. Are they planning on going to go district by district? You gotta be kidding me.
Because every single mail-in ballot that Trumps lackeys say is fraudulently cast also must be deemed fraudulent for those other candidateson the same ballot--as well.
No amount of Republican collusion gets us past that fact. If he tries this, he will run into opposition on a scale he cant possibly cope with. And a whole lot of angry people, on both sides, because mail-in balloting is hardly monolithic to one party, everywhere around the country. They vary, district to district based on population and other demographics.
And these people have huge egos, most of them. And a whole lot of money, power and influence. Their entire careers are going to be on the line. Does anyone expect them to sit on their hands while Donald Trump runs his last big con?
Part of a longer article worthy of a read.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/24/1979752/-Americans-are-finding-out-this-Emperor-is-naked-and-his-private-parts-are-not-very-impressive
Laelth
(32,017 posts)If Trump wants to tie up the election in the Courts, he can, and theres no mechanism for all these adversely-affected politicians to stop him.
-Laelth
eppur_se_muova
(36,296 posts)In principle, anyone who can show they are affected by a court's action can file such a brief. It is not uncommon for there to be dozens such briefs in important cases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicus_curiae
Laelth
(32,017 posts)It doesnt stop Trump from tying up the entire election in the Courts, as suggested by the OP.
-Laelth
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,820 posts)torpedo's all of Trump's harangues.
GOTV!!!!!!!!!!!
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)Trump has to win everything he won last time and three states are already out of reach IMHO.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)President.
Zoonart
(11,879 posts)But I think that, to the point of the author of this article, the shit storm that this would put into motion would not be countenanced by the GOP in general. None of the down ballot nominees want to have this shit storm effect their chances to win their own elections.
It is a shit storm of mammoth proportion that no one needs.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)The SCOTUS steps in and says, This is a mess. To prevent panic, to provide certainty, to avoid civil unrest, and to insure the peaceful transition of power, we hereby declare that Donald J. Trump is the duly-elected President of the United States.
Then what?
Thats what they did in 2000.
-Laelth
Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)They ruled on whether a recount should proceed or not.
SCOTUS has no authority to rule on the winner of an election, only on voting process and violations of voting rights.
If Trump is able to get a court to stop an INITIAL counting of ballots, and succeeds in getting uncanvassed ballots thrown out simply because they are mail-in ballots, without allowing each state to canvass the ballots for authenticity themselves, then the American Experiment is truly over.
I think it is highly unlikely that SCOTUS would even agree to hear such a case, let alone rule against the states.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)The legal posture and various legal arguments they put forward are irrelevant. The result of their ruling was that George W. Bush became our 43rd President. They ruled against the Supreme Court of Florida in 2000. What makes you think that they wouldnt usurp state sovereignty again?
They could, and might, do the same thing this year if the conditions allow for it.
-Laelth